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Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
« on: March 16, 2023, 12:00:12 PM »
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  • This one is just as good. WATCH IT.
    "The fool said in his heart: there is no God." (Psalms 52:1)

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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #1 on: March 16, 2023, 12:45:38 PM »
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  • This one is just as good. WATCH IT.
    "The fool said in his heart: there is no God." (Psalms 52:1)


    The heavens declare the glory of God.
    Proper science shows this truth.

    Alas we have to deal with scientism and its unholy devotees. Such is the danger of possessing the wrong philosophical mindset/disposition. 
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster


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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #2 on: March 20, 2023, 05:13:17 AM »
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  • If you haven't watched those videos, you need to. Even if you're already firmly Creationist. You need to be even firmer and more confident in your beliefs. This will do that.

    We need to take the fight to the lunatic atheists. Their refusal to submit to God's law has driven them insane. We need to put them on the defensive. We need arguments -- apologetics -- to do that.
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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #3 on: March 20, 2023, 06:20:54 AM »
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  • I agree.  It helps to reinforce our own faith and to debunk the absurdity of modern science that is driven by atheism.  I've seen a couple of big names in science, including a couple atheists, a few intellectually honest ones, who have conceded that the spontaneous generation of life is absolutely impossible without intelligent design.  One of these individuals was asked then if he believed in God.  He answered that he wouldn't go that far, but just that this had to be the result of intelligent design.

    https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2011/11/intelligent-design-atheists-to-the-rescue

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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #4 on: March 20, 2023, 06:28:44 AM »
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  • If you take that first video, which just visually describes the enormity of the odds against a SINGLE PROTEIN forming by chance, and then consider that there need to be DOZENS of such proteins, which the simplest known life forms require, that MUST form at nearly the same moment in the same tiny space (recall that these odds are of a single protein forming anywhere on the entire earth), and not only would all these have to form in the same tiny space within moments of each other, but that they would also have to spontaneously assemble into complex structures like cell membranes, and THEN also have to form the complex systems required for them to reproduce (otherwise this simple single cell would simply die off and the process has to start all over again), to consume energy, to excrete waste, etc. ... the most basic necessary life functions, the odds are literally ZERO.


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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #5 on: March 20, 2023, 06:42:34 AM »
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  • Then, at the next level above the molecular machines, you have the more complex body systems.  I was struck by the asonishing complexity of just the "vestibular" system.  While this is an anti-moon-landing video, just focus on 8:45 - 10:33 of this video, describing the amazing complexity of just the vestibular system.  Not only would each tiny piece of this have to form at a micro level, but then hundreds of these individual pieces have to coordinate their activity to get this system to work.



    Or look at something like our 3-D vision, where we have to have two eyes (each of which is amazingly complex in its own right), spaced an appropriate distance apart.  If this happened randomly, then for every creature that had two eyes working together on the front of its head, you'd have millions of variations, some with one eyeball on the sole of its feet, and another on the back of its hand, and an amazing number of possible combinations.  Then these eyes work with the vestibular system, as explained in the video above.  And these are just two of HUNDREDS of complex systems that are required for the human body to function.  Then we have fingers that work together so we can hold things, toes that work together to keep our balance, all kinds of muscle systems ... and this is at the macro level.  At the micro level, the complexity of our body systems are beyond our comprehension.

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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #6 on: March 20, 2023, 06:54:01 AM »
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  • We just watched a video movie on dvd yesterday.  “A matter of faith”.  It was a good movie for children and teens. 





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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #7 on: March 20, 2023, 01:50:13 PM »
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  • We just watched a video movie on dvd yesterday.  “A matter of faith”.  It was a good movie for children and teens.

    Thanks for the recommendation.

    So far, it just suffers from what almost all movies (even "Christian" ones) suffer from -- that scene in the past, never shown on-screen, where the father suffers a gruesome incident with a pencil, and so is only able to have 1 or 2 children.

    What I mean is, the father & mother have job(s), a nice house, they love each other, they are practicing "Christians" -- but have just 1-2 children. So it must have been an industrial accident or something similar causing them to cut off their childbearing so early, after just 1 or 2 children.

    YES, I know it happens naturally due to health, etc. in a small % of cases. But not the % represented by movies and the media. Having children is NOT a literal miracle, where you're lucky if you're blessed with 2. Sorry, I don't buy it.

    In the opening minutes of the movie, the father even jokes that he doesn't want her to get married until 45. And that's despite the fact that he and his wife look quite young -- they look like they married at 18-20. They clearly struggle with sending their only daughter off to college. Why didn't they have more kids? Duh!

    I do plan to watch the rest of it though.
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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #8 on: March 20, 2023, 10:28:17 PM »
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  • If you take that first video, which just visually describes the enormity of the odds against a SINGLE PROTEIN forming by chance, and then consider that there need to be DOZENS of such proteins, which the simplest known life forms require, that MUST form at nearly the same moment in the same tiny space (recall that these odds are of a single protein forming anywhere on the entire earth), and not only would all these have to form in the same tiny space within moments of each other, but that they would also have to spontaneously assemble into complex structures like cell membranes, and THEN also have to form the complex systems required for them to reproduce (otherwise this simple single cell would simply die off and the process has to start all over again), to consume energy, to excrete waste, etc. ... the most basic necessary life functions, the odds are literally ZERO.

    When there's bad will they'll come up with anything to keep believing their deluded fantasy.  Their "arguments" to this are that with infinite expanding universe(s) it would eventually happen that way.  Call them out on their "infinite expanding universe(s)" and they say they can't rightly explain it but science will find out some day.  Or they'll throw "advanced aliens" or some other garbage.  No matter how good of arguments you may have for something people will find a way to hold on to their false worldview.  

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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #9 on: March 21, 2023, 12:26:31 AM »
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  • The "aliens" or "panspermia" theory is the most ridiculous. It's like a child being dared by a friend to go up to a scary house and knock on the door. He manages to go up to the house, but he has his hands over his eyes and is determined to not look at anything he doesn't HAVE TO to get the job done. He goes up to the door, knocks, and gets the heck out.

    Because they instinctively know where they shouldn't "go" lest there be trouble. Namely, "who created the aliens?" It's like the process of Doublethink, described by George Orwell:

    Doublethink was described by George Orwell as simultaneously holding two conflicting beliefs. Orwell describes it thus:
    "The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them....To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."
       -- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four


    Confusing, I know. But that's confused modern minds for you.
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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #10 on: March 21, 2023, 12:32:21 AM »
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  • When there's bad will they'll come up with anything to keep believing their deluded fantasy.  Their "arguments" to this are that with infinite expanding universe(s) it would eventually happen that way.  Call them out on their "infinite expanding universe(s)" and they say they can't rightly explain it but science will find out some day.  Or they'll throw "advanced aliens" or some other garbage.  No matter how good of arguments you may have for something people will find a way to hold on to their false worldview. 

    I don't disagree with you, but I think it's useful to make them explode and expose themselves as complete blind-faith deluded zealots.

    In other words, it's not for them. It's for their class, those under their charge, etc. -- the third parties looking on while you argue.

    For example, just look at them squirm when you talk about all the fresh dinosaur cells they're finding in fossils. Stretchy tissue, blood cells, bone cells, etc. There is NO WAY according to modern biology for cells to last millions of years. They admit they're baffled, but they refuse to look into it, much less to draw the necessary conclusions.

    These morons are SO credulous. They will take refuge in some NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN chemical process, which has never been observed by Science, to explain away these dinosaur cells. And they mock us for having Faith in the unseen, they love to mock God and say we believe in a "Sky Daddy" -- well let me tell you, there's WAY more evidence for an omnipotent, spiritual, uncaused God than there is for some unseen chemical process that's never been observed in hundreds of years of modern scientific work! Who's the credulous one? Who's the one clinging by blind faith to an unseen thing, because they're afraid? The atheists! They're TERRIFIED of God and having to answer to Him.
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    Re: Awesome video - disproving cosmic evolution
    « Reply #11 on: March 29, 2023, 10:48:05 AM »
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  • It should be disproving the evolution of life. Cosmic evolution is the Big Bang.

    Here is a written version of the videos above:

    A chance evolution of a working cell must first have a NUCLEUS. This is the control centre needed in the heart of the organism that operates the cell through complex molecules of NUCLEIC ACID (DNA) and the GENES that make up those molecules and act as the units of heredity. Each of these carries the code for some characteristic of its natural form. This code is spelled out by hundreds of smaller units called NUCLEOTIDES that are arranged in highly specific sequences within the gene. Now these genes are constructed in strings called CHROMOSOMES and are strung in precise and specific sequences. In the human cell there are 46 chromosomes arranged in paired arms, twin arms. In the nucleus of any cell the chromosomes contain the already coded blueprint for structuring the body. A MEMBRANE encloses the cell, structured so as to allow certain chemicals only to pass through it. Inside this is a fluid called CYTOPLASM in which countless bodies carry on the life-lasting business of the cell. An OUTER-MEMBRANE encloses and protects the cell; it in turn allowing only certain materials to enter or leave by a method unknown to science. Inside the cell there is an ongoing production of PROTEINS. Each type of protein is determined by a code in the gene. An ENZYME is triggered which examines the gene and builds an RNA-MOLECULE in the image of the blueprint. When this is completed, it receives a signal to stop. This RNA brings the message to the cytoplasm where it is held by one of many RIBOSOMES that are so complex as to defy scientific comprehension. These build up the protein by linking various AMINO ACIDS in the specific sequence of the blueprint. For this, TRANSFER-RNA catches amino-acids, each using special enzymes. Each of the mechanisms of the evolving cell would need a computer to regulate, for even the simplest cell contains several thousand kinds of proteins and many billions, yes billions, of each of those kinds. The data contained within any first cell at its emergence from the evolutionary stew-pot would be equivalent to a 50 million telephone number, or the amount of information needed to monitor every traffic light change in the world.   

    Oh yes, then there is trying to give that cell life, another natural impossibility.