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Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2021, 03:50:11 PM »
Cassini,

Your posts are great!  

They add a boat load of ammunition to the “Marrano popes” argumentation.

Long live a non judaic Ireland,
the home of true Saints & Scholars!

:incense:

Thanks Incred, elsewhere I got barred from their Catholic forums for such information.
 Oh I have learned a lot in the last 30 years when I first started to investigate evolution.

‘Satan uniquely entered the Catholic Church at some point over the last century, or even before. For over a century, the organizers of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, Liberalism, and Modernism infiltrated the Catholic Church in order to change her doctrine, her liturgy, and her mission from something supernatural to something secular.’ (Taylor Marshall, October 4, 2019 (LifeSiteNews)

‘Naturalism is more than a heresy; it is pure undiluted anti-Christianism. Heresy denies one or more dogmas; naturalism denies that there are any dogmas or that there can be any. Heresy alters more or less what God has revealed; naturalism denies the very existence of revelation. What hurls more people into hell nowadays that any other epoch, is rationalism or naturalism.
(The kingship of Christ, Cardinal Pie of Poitiers

Few know how Satan entered the Catholic Church in the 1800s that removed the supernatural from Catholicism replacing it with a natural secular Catholicism. This occurred when popes were advised by the likes of Maurizio Benedetto Olivieri (1769-1845). a Dominican friar, Holy Office consultant and professor of Old Testament studies at La Sapienza University who was promoted to Commissary General of the Inquisition, a giant leap in authority, that the heliocentrism condemned in 1616 as formal heresy was a violent one (winds etc on an orbiting Earth) but that in 1820 science had proven heliocentrism was not a violent one so that one was not formal heresy. In other words the Church could have its infallible cake (the 1616 decree against violent heresy) and eat it also by allowing a non-violent heliocentrism to be believed within Catholicism.

Consider the above with the knowledge that what was actually defined in 1616 as formal heresy was to deny the revelation that the SUN orbited the Earth. It said nothing about a violent Earth. 

And that is how secular naturalism entered the Catholic Church, an evolved solar-system replaced a supernatural creation by God. From that moment on, not one pope questioned this 'non-violent heliocentrism 'science,' not even when two science tests showed geocentrisdm was never proven wrong. In 1893, such was the secular attack on Scripture theb Pope Leo XIII wrote Providintissimes Deus to try to stop it. In it he said that if the literal is shown to have been misinterpreted by science it could be changed. The SSPX quoted this as Church teaching when denying the bible reveals a moving sun.

Not one pope since condemned any other secular natural theory of origins like long-ages evolutionism in fear of being proven wrong if they tried to defend supernatural creation as revealed in Genesis.. Oh yes St Pope Pius X condemned philosophical evolutionism but never said a word abour false science. 

For 180 years then, popes have tried to make false-science Catholic. But secular science won the war and billions lost faith in the supernatural and finally in Catholicism itself as our generation witnesses.              

Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2021, 12:34:06 PM »
Here is more on evolution.

Throughout the early drift into modernism or neo-Gnostic Pythagoreanism as it could be called, Catholicism as a sacramental religion sustained the flock as ever before and not a pope, cardinal, bishop, priest, nun, theologian, layman or laywoman at the time saw any of these long-condemned Pythagorean heresies as having any significance or negative bearing on the Catholic faith. And that is how Galileoism undermined the basis of the faith like dry rot in a cathedral, invisible and unnoticed by those praying in the pews. It was the Galilean lie that went on to undermine the supernatural and metaphysical faith of Catholicism and replaced it with a faith based on natural secular reason. There was one however who knew the consequences of Galileo’s reformation.

‘As a result of the collapse of geocentrism, which she has come to accept, the Church is now caught between her historic-dogmatic representation of the world’s origin, on the one hand, and the requirements of one of her most fundamental dogmas on the other – so that she cannot retain the former without to some degree sacrificing the latter… In earlier times until Galileo, there was perfect compatibility between historical representation and the Fall and dogmas of universal Redemption – and all the more easily too, in that each was modelled on the other… Today we know with certainty that the stellar universe is not centred on the Earth, and that terrestrial life is not centred on mankind.’ --Fr. T. de Chardin S. J. Christianity and Evolution, Collins, 1971, p, 38.

Fr Teilhard de Chardin, the ‘Peking man’ evolutionist and pantheist, ‘identified with the astronomer Galileo, making his own the mythical phrase attributed to him, “the Earth turns.” Teilhard would give those words the meaning of evolutionary change,’ wrote Fr Malachi Martin in his Jesuits. Von Hildebrand tells us that when Augustine was mentioned, Teilhard said: ‘Don’t mention that unfortunate man; he spoiled everything by introducing the supernatural.’---Deitrich von Hildebrand: Trojan Horse in the City of God. 1996.

‘His posthumously published book, The Phenomenon of Man, set forth a sweeping account of the unfolding of the cosmos and the evolution of matter to humanity, to ultimately a reunion with Christ. In his book, Teilhard de Chardin abandoned literal interpretations of creation in Genesis in favor of allegorical and theological interpretations. The unfolding of the material cosmos is described from primordial particles to the development of life, human being.’ --- Wikipedia.



Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2021, 12:37:42 PM »
Having abandoned and deprived the Catholic Church of its scholastic exegeses and its theologically based philosophy and metaphysics by conceding to heliocentrism and a natural theory of origins, this necessitated a novel theology to satisfy the new understanding brought about by the ‘findings of science.’ This ‘development of doctrine’ they called it, was first championed within Catholicism by the likes of John Henry Newman (1801-1890), a Protestant convert, later made a cardinal, a boastful ‘scholar’ as we will see later, a man who embraced Galileoism and when Darwin’s evolution came out in 1859 he found it agreed with his thinking about ‘change and development.’ Indeed, Notre Dame University’s Church Life Journal called him ‘the patron saint of evolution.’ Following Newman, it was Teilhard’s evolutionary theology that found favour among many of the Vatican II hierarchy including popes.
    
‘Nonetheless, Teilhard’s overall vision greatly influenced the council [Vatican II] fathers in their docuмent, Gaudium et Spes, and every recent pope, starting with Pope Paul VI, has favourably cited from the priest’s works. Pope Francis even gave him a footnote in his encyclical, Laudato Si’, incorporating his sense of a mysterious, beautiful unfolding of the world where the ultimate destiny of the universe is in the fullness of God.’--- Crux. Taking the Catholic pulse.
 
In 1962, a monitum, a warning against Teilhard de Chardin’s writings had been issued, while at the same time many churchmen were in awe of his thinking. Four years later, in 1966, Pope Paul VI was praising him for finding the ‘spiritual’ in evolutionism. In 1981, Pope John Paul II’s secretary of State praised Teilhard’s brilliance. In 2009 Pope Benedict XVI publicly praised Teilhard’s notion of the cosmos as a “living host,” and in 2015, as we see above, Pope Francis cited Teilhard approvingly in footnote 53 to Laudato Si.
  
‘Sigmund Freud believed science (including psychoanalysis) to have inflicted three severe blows to man’s perception of himself. In the sixteenth century Copernicus inflicted a cosmological blow by demonstrating that the Earth moved around the sun, and was not the centre of the universe. In the nineteenth century Darwin inflicted a biological blow by showing man’s evolutionary continuity with the animals, and in the twentieth, his own emphasis on the unconscious determination of human behaviour dealt a drastic blow to man’s sense of psychological freedom.’[1]
 
There they are now, in historic and consequential order, the three deceitful ‘scientific’ systems now believed by most outside and inside the Catholic Church; Copernicus and Galileo supposedly ‘demonstrating’ the Earth moves around the sun in a solar system; Darwin and Huxley, allegedly ‘showing’ life on Earth, including man, evolved over billions of years; and Sigmund Freud, the one who wrote Moses and Monotheism, ‘emphasising’ his psychology built upon the two earlier hoaxes. Nevertheless, this triple concoction is now the preferred worldview, demonstrating modern man is now the rationalist model personified; and surrounded as he is with new technology and scientific pursuits, is far too convinced to believe he can be deceived by any such intellectual stealth.


[1] Stephen Wilson: The B. Book of the Mind, Bloomsbury, 2003, p.312.




Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2021, 10:40:33 AM »
Who is "Rosie Goldie"?

Sounds like it could be the name of a female Jєωιѕн vaudeville star around the turn of the 20th century :laugh1:
https://catholicoutlook.org/rosemary-goldie-the-parramatta-girl-in-the-vatican/

Answered my own question.
It sounded like Rosie O'Donnell and Goldie Hawn had a baby or something.  (In Rosie's dreams! :jester:  )

Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2021, 10:56:50 AM »
Another decent argument against Evolution to add to your arsenal:

Why is there no indication of ANY evolution of Man during the historical period, which goes back several thousand years?

How long do they say that modern Man, homo sapiens, has existed?  The historical record has *got* to be a decent % of that. There should be some indications, one way or the other, that we are either evolving or devolving.

Now I posit that all the evidence points to man devolving, rather than evolving. And don't point to your damn smartphone! That isn't part of you. Babies coming out of the womb today don't start with the basics of electronics in their brains, and then build from there as they get older. Most "Homo Modernus Smartphonus" circa 2021 couldn't even build a single smartphone if they had 20 "lifeline" calls (think: gameshow) and a budget of 100 million dollars.

Heck, the typical young person circa 2021 can't even produce his own food, much less work any scientific wonders.

As further evidence for my assertion, just look at ancient languages being more complex than recent ones. And people relied on their memories rather than Google. No, we are devolving if anything, not evolving onward and upward, into a new life form.

Just read a book or newspaper from 1880, and then one from 2020, if you don't believe me.
We were discussing that the other day. My late grandmom’s 8th grade education surpassed my 1980’s High school education. My peers were far immature too and still are to this day. The worse ones are the ones who went Catholic school.   Our town was mostly Catholic too.  But my peers are now mostly pagans and atheists.  The ones who are witches and sodomites went to Catholic school.