Author Topic: Austria - we INVITED Hitler to power here (Read 3613 times)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2013, 06:26:47 AM »

The nαzιs were bad, not because they were in opposition to Jews, but because they were opposed to morality.

Austria overwhelmingly supported the Anschluss, and Hitler did not adhere faithfully to the Concordat.

People who oppose Jews don't have to defend the Third Reich.

We need an honest appraisal of the nαzιs, so that we show our first concern is the truth.

Practically speaking, irrational apologetics for Adolf Hitler and the nαzιs are highly counter-productive in the struggle against Jewry.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2013, 06:30:04 AM »

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Holy Roman Empire.

Quote from: wikipedia

In a decree following the 1512 Diet of Cologne, the name was officially changed to Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation (German: Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation, Latin: Imperium Romanum Sacrum Nationis Germanicæ).[9] This form was first used in a docuмent in 1474.

It's right there in the name that it was the empire of the German nation, of which Austria was a part.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2013, 06:30:18 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

The nαzιs were bad, not because they were in opposition to Jews, but because they were opposed to morality.

Austria overwhelmingly supported the Anschluss, and Hitler did not adhere faithfully to the Concordat.

People who oppose Jews don't have to defend the Third Reich.

We need an honest appraisal of the nαzιs, so that we show our first concern is the truth.

Practically speaking, irrational apologetics for Adolf Hitler and the nαzιs is highly counter-productive in the struggle against Jewry.

We are discussing if Hitler was a threat, not if he was a good guy.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2013, 06:35:16 AM »

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We are discussing if Hitler was a threat, not if he was a good guy.

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Apparently some people like to believe the lie that Hitler was an evil anti-Christian pagan dictator

I don't think it's a lie to say that Hitler led Germany to catastrophe, and that he did not act in a Christian spirit.

That's not to say we shouldn't speak in defense of the reputation of Germany from the relentless Jєωιѕн atrocity propaganda, and from the lies about who was behind the war.

brainglitch · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2013, 09:56:01 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
We are discussing if Hitler was a threat, not if he was a good guy.

Quote from: PaxRomanum
Apparently some people like to believe the lie that Hitler was an evil anti-Christian pagan dictator

I don't think it's a lie to say that Hitler led Germany to catastrophe, and that he did not act in a Christian spirit.

That's not to say we shouldn't speak in defense of the reputation of Germany from the relentless Jєωιѕн atrocity propaganda, and from the lies about who was behind the war.

Naturally, a lot of the stories of German atrocities were exaggerated (victors write the history unfortunately), but I think it's pretty obvious that Hitler and the nαzιs were not friendly to the Church, although some elements of the German officer corps and old aristocracy were. Stauffenberg, for example, who tried to αssαssιnαtҽ Hitler.