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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: Traditional Guy 20 on January 18, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
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You know Black people always have such a big beef on their shoulder about how "whitey" always owes them for their years of slavery and segregation and yet I wonder if any Black person will admit this? If we look at the crimes of Blacks all over the world it is quite obvious that considering they have the lowest intelligence (read The Bell Curve by Charles Murray) that that feature also makes them the most violent race of them all. Blacks are 250 times more likely to rape white women and they commit more than half the violent crime in this country. The same holds true in England where Blacks commit 147% more crime than the White English who have been there (most Blacks in England come from the Caribbean when they started to immigrate during the 1950's). Blacks are constantly involved in gang warfare in this country between Hispanic gangs and in England against Asian gangs and in return for this behavior they constantly try to demand more reparations from whitey. So considering they are the lowest in intelligence, the lowest in family-rearing (70% of Black children have no father), and the highest when it comes to gang and criminal-related activities I believe there is no way you can successfully try to put them in any European society without causing trouble and hatred. In France African gangs rioted in Paris after French authorities started to break down on immigrant enclaves. If you look at Europe today with the massive African and Arab population rolling in it will spell doom since Europeans have no courage anymore to kick out the former subject peoples of their empires.
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Everything I've seen about the statistics that you present indicate that, in the United States anyway, the problems were really not distinguishable between blacks and whites until racist white liberals decided that they had to "take care of blacks" because they couldn't take care of themselves. The black family was not broken until federal welfare encouraged it. Black crime was not significantly worse than crime in general until the courts decided that crime was caused by poverty and white oppression rather than avarice.
It's not necessarily blacks who need to admit these problems, but liberal whites and their black lackeys in the "civil rights industry" who need to admit that they have in large part caused the problems.
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Everything I've seen about the statistics that you present indicate that, in the United States anyway, the problems were really not distinguishable between blacks and whites until racist white liberals decided that they had to "take care of blacks" because they couldn't take care of themselves.
I agree somewhat with what you say but that is also a cop-out. No white liberal told a black male to rape a white girl (which means it is their natural behavior) and in Europe there has been no long-standing African population there and yet the troubles started to occur right after they started coming in. In America the Germans and Irish who started to come here after Africans are melded into society, but the African population that has been here longer than any other group besides the American Indian is still detached after 300 years and is now growing in racial demands and violence.
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This is all caused by the White Liberals and the Jews.
After all not one single TV station are owned by a single Black.
Many of the riots in the 1960's were instigated by the CIA and the government.
If they could not get the home town Blacks to riot they turned to
Hollywood so they can rush the fake films to the TV studios in
time for the 6 O'clock news.
This is all about keeping hold of power and the reigns of Government.
And, turn the country into communist-socialist society.
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Many of the riots in the 1960's were instigated by the CIA and the government.
That's like the liberal Kerner Commission that blamed the riots on everything except the rioters themselves to borrow from Nixon. Why were there riots in places like Detroit? Obviously because Detroit has a race problem.
I think obviously that the Jews have the real power in this country but heredity determines your behavior and some people have better heredity than others.
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You know Black people always have such a big beef on their shoulder about how "whitey"
You look like a fool to speak in this manner. Just a stupid fool.
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Many of the riots in the 1960's were instigated by the CIA and the government.
That's like the liberal Kerner Commission that blamed the riots on everything except the rioters themselves to borrow from Nixon. Why were there riots in places like Detroit? Obviously because Detroit has a race problem.
I think obviously that the Jews have the real power in this country but heredity determines your behavior and some people have better heredity than others.
And look at Detroit now in the year 2016. The city resembles a
bombed out city out of WW2.
The liberals and the jews and their social engineers are responsible,
and they will never admit their mistakes and keep on lying because
the lie is considered the "Higher Good". Meanwhile, we all fall
into the abyss.
And example is that the war on poverty program of the 1960's
removed the Father from the Black Family so the single Mother
could get more welfare benefits and encouraged to have more
children.
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You look like a fool to speak in this manner. Just a stupid fool.
I am not surprised that you would say this since World War II opened up to people like you the idea of racial equality but the facts still stand that if you ever plan on going to the ghetto you will be called "whitey" by the ghetto thugs there.
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And look at Detroit now in the year 2016. The city resembles a
bombed out city out of WW2.
Look all the excuses can be made but in Europe Africans are a new phenomenon and they are just as violent as they are in America.
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Also during the Great Depression America had a population mostly European going through a harder time than in the 1960's and yet there was no violence or destruction of property during the Depression like there was during the 1960's or nowadays.
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Here is a video tour of a Detroit Ghetto. And the question is Why
do people live like that?
I would be afraid to be in that car because of an experience I
had in San Francisco. I was advised by the Bus Drive not to
make any eye contact with the gangs of black men on the
outside. I could be dragged off the bus and killed before the
police would get there.
https://youtu.be/T6WKMNmFsxM
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I was advised by the Bus Drive not to
make any eye contact with the gangs of black men on the
outside. I could be dragged off the bus and killed before the
police would get there.
A few men with guns and some well-placed bullets would scare most thugs away. In regards to Detroit I admit that during the LBJ years manufacturing was really sucked out of Detroit but you still have not answered why people during the Great Depression, who had a worse time, are not as violent as the inner-city. It all boils down to race.
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Try this - Anarchy USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY2W1pQMI0w
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You look like a fool to speak in this manner. Just a stupid fool.
I am not surprised that you would say this since World War II opened up to people like you the idea of racial equality but the facts still stand that if you ever plan on going to the ghetto you will be called "whitey" by the ghetto thugs there.
Your original statement differs from what you are saying here:
You said: "You know Black people always have such a big beef on their shoulder about how "whitey"..."
That is a foolish and false statement. You are including the whole black populace, in the United States in your sweeping statement.
Now you are saying: "if you ever plan on going to the ghetto you will be called "whitey" by the ghetto thugs there."
Yes, that very well could happen in a ghetto. What's your point? There are places in America (predominately white) where blacks are called bad names too.
It's a nonsense post, that only adds fire to current American societal discord. That's stupid!
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You know Black people always have such a big beef on their shoulder about how "whitey" always owes them for their years of slavery and segregation and yet I wonder if any Black person will admit this? If we look at the crimes of Blacks all over the world it is quite obvious that considering they have the lowest intelligence (read The Bell Curve by Charles Murray) that that feature also makes them the most violent race of them all. Blacks are 250 times more likely to rape white women and they commit more than half the violent crime in this country. The same holds true in England where Blacks commit 147% more crime than the White English who have been there (most Blacks in England come from the Caribbean when they started to immigrate during the 1950's). Blacks are constantly involved in gang warfare in this country between Hispanic gangs and in England against Asian gangs and in return for this behavior they constantly try to demand more reparations from whitey. So considering they are the lowest in intelligence, the lowest in family-rearing (70% of Black children have no father), and the highest when it comes to gang and criminal-related activities I believe there is no way you can successfully try to put them in any European society without causing trouble and hatred. In France African gangs rioted in Paris after French authorities started to break down on immigrant enclaves. If you look at Europe today with the massive African and Arab population rolling in it will spell doom since Europeans have no courage anymore to kick out the former subject peoples of their empires.
First of all, paragraph breaks are your friends!
Secondly, if moral problems were the result of lower IQs, then where are all the Down Syndrome tricycle gangs? Feel free to completely discard the Bell Curve. Embrace the Church and her mission to convert, the rest will follow.
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That is a foolish and false statement. You are including the whole black populace, in the United States in your sweeping statement.
Now you are saying: "if you ever plan on going to the ghetto you will be called "whitey" by the ghetto thugs there."
Yes, that very well could happen in a ghetto. What's your point? There are places in America (predominately white) where blacks are called bad names too.
It's a nonsense post, that only adds fire to current American societal discord. That's stupid!
Black people are constantly fed by white people in soup kitchens, nursing homes, etc. and the welfare programs have continually put more money to all Black people in terms of food stamps, Pell grants, affirmative action, etc. There have been more Blacks put into colleges thanks to affirmative action than ever before at the price of not giving those deserving white boys who have better scores access to the colleges. White people are the black man's best friend in terms of feeding him, housing him, etc.
But yes on the whole the black populace has the lowest IQ of all races.
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First of all, paragraph breaks are your friends!
Secondly, if moral problems were the result of lower IQs, then where are all the Down Syndrome tricycle gangs? Feel free to completely discard the Bell Curve. Embrace the Church and her mission to convert, the rest will follow.
First of all, you better understand the reality of race since there will be a race war soon.
Secondly, lower IQs, especially in Blacks lead to a lower amount of rational thought in their frontal region of the brain, making it harder to determine right from wrong, which leads to their violent behavior. Your view of race is pretty much akin to the Marxists i.e. race does not matter!
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I was advised by the Bus Drive not to
make any eye contact with the gangs of black men on the
outside. I could be dragged off the bus and killed before the
police would get there.
A few men with guns and some well-placed bullets would scare most thugs away. In regards to Detroit I admit that during the LBJ years manufacturing was really sucked out of Detroit but you still have not answered why people during the Great Depression, who had a worse time, are not as violent as the inner-city. It all boils down to race.
The Great Depression was a different time, and a different people.
Most practiced religion and religion was part of their lives.
Most Americans attended Church on Sundays. We
believed and trusted GOD and the Ten Commandments. There
were a very few riots in the 1930's. That were usually caused by
the communists in the labor unions.
Many of the unemployed were helped by the Churches, and
other social groups.
However, the road to big government began in the 1930's and
FDR and the New Deal. Some good programs such as Social
Security that pensioned the elderly off in the work force so younger
people that have many years ahead of them jobs.
My Grandmother started receiving social security in the 1950's and
her first award was $79.00 and it went a long ways and money
left over.
It was WW2 that got the U.S. out of the Great Depression. And
left the U.S. the only world power because of the carnage of WW2.
Because of all the prosperity, religion beliefs and practices begin
to decline. The welfare state begun to grow. Americans discovered
they can vote themselves largess from the U.S. Treasury.
We have now an elite in power that are not guided by religious
beliefs. They are practical atheists'. God has been removed from
the institutions of learning. The Government. There is no more
national day of prayer. God cannot be mentioned in a military
cemetery. A nativity scene cannot be on any public property.
And, the national media shares responsibility because most
that are attracted to broadcasting are Liberals and have the
means to brainwashed whole segments of people. Hollywood
that makes evil films to promote evil. And the unconverted
Jews whom reject Christ with the blessing of the Vatican.
One of the films in my collection is a 1952 home 8mm now converted
to DVD. It shows a family touring a city and all the sights. At
the ending shows them praying in a Church.
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RomanCatholic1953 I am going to reply to your post in a few short posts okay?
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The Great Depression was a different time, and a different people.
Most practiced religion and religion was part of their lives.
Most Americans attended Church on Sundays. We
believed and trusted GOD and the Ten Commandments. There
were a very few riots in the 1930's. That were usually caused by
the communists in the labor unions.
Many of the unemployed were helped by the Churches, and
other social groups.
And most Americans were also of European descent...
Yes the Churches made sure no one starved but you have to admit that during the 1920's there was also a bad time called the "era of sex, booze, and jazz" and "the era of wonderful nonsense" that ended with the stock market crash. What caused such cynicism on the populace? It was the British fatal error to enter World War I which caused that small conflict to become a world war and lead mankind to have such a cynical view of the world after seeing the horrors of the Western front.
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However, the road to big government began in the 1930's and
FDR and the New Deal. Some good programs such as Social
Security that pensioned the elderly off in the work force so younger
people that have many years ahead of them jobs.
My Grandmother started receiving social security in the 1950's and
her first award was $79.00 and it went a long ways and money
left over.
No issue from me that the New Deal of FDR used Big Government to get out of the Great Depression. The problem with Social Security is they should have started to let people get out of it like Barry Goldwater said. Remember that also the program was originally for widows not capable of making an income. With working people being put in retail jobs instead of factory jobs which does not pay high enough into Social Security along with giving it to illegal immigrants they have bankrupted it.
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the welfare programs have continually put more money to all Black people in terms of food stamps, Pell grants, affirmative action, etc.
You say all black people, which is false and totally ignorant. You're a race-baiter.
Here is an official US Government welfare statistic:
U.S. Department of Agriculture data from 2013, which administers welfare, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are Black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American. (Mar 3, 2015)
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It was WW2 that got the U.S. out of the Great Depression. And
left the U.S. the only world power because of the carnage of WW2.
Because of all the prosperity, religion beliefs and practices begin
to decline. The welfare state begun to grow. Americans discovered
they can vote themselves largess from the U.S. Treasury.
We have now an elite in power that are not guided by religious
beliefs. They are practical atheists'. God has been removed from
the institutions of learning. The Government. There is no more
national day of prayer. God cannot be mentioned in a military
cemetery. A nativity scene cannot be on any public property.
And, the national media shares responsibility because most
that are attracted to broadcasting are Liberals and have the
means to brainwashed whole segments of people. Hollywood
that makes evil films to promote evil. And the unconverted
Jews whom reject Christ with the blessing of the Vatican.
One of the films in my collection is a 1952 home 8mm now converted
to DVD. It shows a family touring a city and all the sights. At
the ending shows them praying in a Church.
The 1950's was full of sex even when 3 out of 4 Catholics were going to Church on Sundays. I wouldn't say "liberals" control the media, arts, movies, etc. but the more broad term of the Left since it also includes Marxists and Social Democrats. It is false that World War II got America out of the Depression since there was massive rationing going on at the time and inferior products in the stores. The U.S. also became the sole superpower by destroying the British Empire, not because America is special.
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From: Who Shall Ascend?
There are those who would think it an impious thing to say, nonetheless, we consider it self-evident that, if it be necessary for a government to force one segment of its citizenry to open themselves socially to another, it could only be because those being forced have their reasons for not doing the thing voluntarily. In the present case, the fault must be on the part of the Negro, if people find it problematical to treat them the same way, in every area of life, as they treat others.
Nor is the objection hard to find: it is that a large percentage of Negro people are not assimilable-choose not to be assimilable because of their want of civilized morals and manners. An unmeasurable but sizeable percentage of the Negro population within any nation refuses to conform to the norms of civilization. They ignore many of the laws of their country, they disregard even permissive marital mores, they make a wreck of other people' s property, and care nothing for cleaning up where they live; they milk society of its generosity, acting as if everything given is due and cannot be done without; they exhaust its tolerance with their irresponsibility, and want of ambition, and abuse of its benefactions;' especially do they commit crimes of theft and assault and murder.2 Within the last sixty years, enough money has been poured into the hands of the Negroes of the United States to have purchased all the Fortune Five-hundred Companies, and all the farmland, enough money surely that they could have become self-sufficient and prosperous, and live in the finest residences, all of them.3 There is really no evidence that all this money has been given, except in larger Negro populations, larger slum neighborhoods, and larger prison populations.5
Because it is impossible for those outside the Negro community to know which Negroes are civilized and which are not, for their protection and the preservation of their form of life, non-Blacks have found it necessary to remain apart from all Negro people. The advantage that civilized Negro people have over others, vis-a-vis their kinsmen, is that the former can, must, and do discriminate among themselves. The disadvantage they must suffer is that they must live among those of their kinsmen who resist all forms of civilization, and
must suffer their depredations. Integration in no way helps decent Negro people to get away from the savages of their race; it only forces those of other races to have to accept them, without the advantage of being able or permitted to discriminate between the civilized and the wild.
1 Negro people, no matter what their circuмstances, require, per capita, a
larger percentage of the socialist, welfare budget than any other group.
They demand more attention from the police, the courts, the hospitals, the
welfare agencies; and no matter how much they receive, it is never
enough. Despite this, they produce the greatest percentage of jail and
prison inmates.
2 Of the 23,300 murders committed in this country in 1990, over half of
them were committed by Negroes, who comprise only thirteen percent of
the population. (Of course, this figure does not include thousands of other
murders, whose perpetrators were never caught.) The point here is not that
all men are not equal, but, more relevantly, that Liberalism and Welfarism
have proved more injurious to the souls of Negro people than slavery.
3 So says Walter Williams, a Negro columnist, who has no patience with the
too great willingness of his people to be dependent and unproductive. And
he is very outspoken in his contempt for Leftist Negro leaders, who claim
to speak for all Blacks.
4 Recently a Negro Alderman in Chicago submitted a proposal as something
urgent and inarguable that the City must build a new kind of housing
project for "his people." He insisted that the reason that the presently
existing, though for the most part unlivable, projects, had been rendered
unlivable was that they were high-rise buildings. These projects should
have been one- and two-story dwellings to start with.
5 In the United States, there are more Black men in prisons, than are in colleges, this, despite the fact that there are hundreds of millions of dollars in
college grant money available for those who make the effort to get it; this,
despite the fact that American colleges and universities are a colossal
academic joke, in that much of their curricula hardly challenges the imbecilic.
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You say all black people, which is false and totally ignorant. You're a race-baiter.
Here is an official US Government welfare statistic:
U.S. Department of Agriculture data from 2013, which administers welfare, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are Black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American. (Mar 3, 2015)
And you must be a Social Democrat.
I would hope that only 1/4 of the welfare is Black since Blacks are only 13% of the population. Besides considering Obama is in the White House I would not be surprised if that docuмent is rigged myself.
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First of all, paragraph breaks are your friends!
Secondly, if moral problems were the result of lower IQs, then where are all the Down Syndrome tricycle gangs? Feel free to completely discard the Bell Curve. Embrace the Church and her mission to convert, the rest will follow.
First of all, you better understand the reality of race since there will be a race war soon.
Secondly, lower IQs, especially in Blacks lead to a lower amount of rational thought in their frontal region of the brain, making it harder to determine right from wrong, which leads to their violent behavior. Your view of race is pretty much akin to the Marxists i.e. race does not matter!
Marxists have been filling the world with race theory and anything and everything else to replace the Catholic Church. The Black community has been singled out early on and due to their lack of Catholicity had very little defense against it. Judging by the tone of your posts, you've been lured into it just like the rest of the Protestant mongrels. You'll be caught fighting for the white race instead of Christ. Many are called few are chosen.
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you still have not answered why people during the Great Depression, who had a worse time, are not as violent as the inner-city.
I don't know your age, but anyone that knew anyone from that generation would know the answer.
That generation was nothing like we have today. They were moral with a strong work ethic and an even stronger sense, for the most part, of right and wrong.
No, it wasn't perfect back then. It has never nor will it ever be in this world. Yes, there were plenty of "bad apples" but not like we have today.
Today we have the entitlement generation. Matters not whether it is right or wrong (for those who still know the difference and aren't completely amoral); all that matters is they "feel" they have the "right." The worst generation I have ever seen are the twenty-somethings. I am glad I won't be alive to see what that generation raises.
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Marxists have been filling the world with race theory and anything and everything else to replace the Catholic Church. The Black community has been singled out early on and due to their lack of Catholicity had very little defense against it. Judging by the tone of your posts, you've been lured into it just like the rest of the Protestant mongrels. You'll be caught fighting for the white race instead of Christ. Many are called few are chosen.
Uh no actually the modern Catholic Church is fully Marxist. And for the record I of course want to defend my race (I think white is too broad of a term since English and French will not fight for each other) and anyone who does not is brainwashed since Blacks, Chinese, Latins, etc. will fight for their race.
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you still have not answered why people during the Great Depression, who had a worse time, are not as violent as the inner-city.
I don't know your age, but anyone that knew anyone from that generation would know the answer.
That generation was nothing like we have today. They were moral with a strong work ethic and an even stronger sense, for the most part, of right and wrong.
No, it wasn't perfect back then. It has never nor will it ever be in this world. Yes, there were plenty of "bad apples" but not like we have today.
Today we have the entitlement generation. Matters not whether it is right or wrong (for those who still know the difference and aren't completely amoral); all that matters is they "feel" they have the "right." The worst generation I have ever seen are the twenty-somethings. I am glad I won't be alive to see what that generation raises.
Ha the worst generations of all are the 'Greatest Generation' who fought World War II and the baby boomers who did the counterculture. Obviously my generation of the twenty-somethings are brainwashed too but those generations are the worst generations in human history since they destroyed what was left of the beauty of the world.
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You say all black people, which is false and totally ignorant. You're a race-baiter.
Here is an official US Government welfare statistic:
U.S. Department of Agriculture data from 2013, which administers welfare, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are Black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American. (Mar 3, 2015)
And you must be a Social Democrat.
I would hope that only 1/4 of the welfare is Black since Blacks are only 13% of the population. Besides considering Obama is in the White House I would not be surprised if that docuмent is rigged myself.
I keep showing your posts are like Swiss cheese.
Socialism is condemned by the Church (See the Syllabus of Errors).
People like you do a disservice to the noble name of Catholic.
Please tape your hands to your desk for 2 days or so.
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I keep showing your posts are like Swiss cheese.
Socialism is condemned by the Church (See the Syllabus of Errors).
People like you do a disservice to the noble name of Catholic.
Please tape your hands to your desk for 2 days or so.
First of all Social Democracy is not socialism but is more radically Marxist, believing that democracy will bring about a Marxian revolution. Secondly, whether it was condemned or not did not stop Catholic priests from siding with Marxists and talking about how great Marxism was. What noble name is there in "Catholic" anymore if Catholic priests side with the mortal foe of all religion?
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Speaking of disservice I do a disservice to myself for talking to a bunch of brainwashed buffoons who obviously know nothing of the realities of race or that Europeans were superior in culture to all peoples, especially those in Africa who are the lowest, and I would daresay even argue superior Asian cultures like the Japanese.
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Speaking of disservice I do a disservice to myself for talking to a bunch of brainwashed buffoons who obviously know nothing of the realities of race or that Europeans were superior in culture to all peoples, especially those in Africa who are the lowest, and I would daresay even argue superior Asian cultures like the Japanese.
If your argument was restricted to culture and not genetics or IQ, you wouldn't have such a mangled point from the gate.
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. . .especially those in Africa who are the lowest. . .
Sheeeit man--show the brovers sum raspeck on Martin Lufer King Day!
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If your argument was restricted to culture and not genetics or IQ, you wouldn't have such a mangled point from the gate.
Ah but genetics and IQ predetermine your cultural level. Obviously modern European culture is inferior thanks to foreign elements but even if we were to argue from a non-European point of view the Japanese for instance have a culture that is vastly superior to the culture in Africa. The Japanese history shows a race that has tried to hold on to its character despite Western influence and their values while non-Western are clearly more similar to Europe than say Africa.
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show the brovers sum raspeck on Martin Lufer King Day!
Vox Inferni, you have an addiction to posting phrases laced with references to excrement. You're a freaky pervert, who has lost at life. Leave!
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Vox Inferni, you have an addiction to posting phrases laced with references to excrement. You're a freaky pervert, who has lost at life. Leave!
He just posted the street lingo of your usual ghetto thug. I see no problem.
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show the brovers sum raspeck on Martin Lufer King Day!
Vox Inferni, you have an addiction to posting phrases laced with references to excrement. You're a freaky pervert, who has lost at life. Leave!
Whatever jew boy. If I wanted any $#!+ out of you, I'd squeeze your head.
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show the brovers sum raspeck on Martin Lufer King Day!
Vox Inferni, you have an addiction to posting phrases laced with references to excrement. You're a freaky pervert, who has lost at life. Leave!
Whatever jew boy. If I wanted any $#!+ out of you, I'd squeeze your head.
There you go again, seeing Jews wherever you go. How tiring that must be, seeing a Jew on every corner, under every bush...
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You know Black people always have such a big beef on their shoulder about how "whitey" always owes them for their years of slavery and segregation and yet I wonder if any Black person will admit this? If we look at the crimes of Blacks all over the world it is quite obvious that considering they have the lowest intelligence (read The Bell Curve by Charles Murray) that that feature also makes them the most violent race of them all. Blacks are 250 times more likely to rape white women and they commit more than half the violent crime in this country. The same holds true in England where Blacks commit 147% more crime than the White English who have been there (most Blacks in England come from the Caribbean when they started to immigrate during the 1950's). Blacks are constantly involved in gang warfare in this country between Hispanic gangs and in England against Asian gangs and in return for this behavior they constantly try to demand more reparations from whitey. So considering they are the lowest in intelligence, the lowest in family-rearing (70% of Black children have no father), and the highest when it comes to gang and criminal-related activities I believe there is no way you can successfully try to put them in any European society without causing trouble and hatred. In France African gangs rioted in Paris after French authorities started to break down on immigrant enclaves. If you look at Europe today with the massive African and Arab population rolling in it will spell doom since Europeans have no courage anymore to kick out the former subject peoples of their empires.
Why are you trying to instigate bickering and hatred? Do you not know that this kind of talk like saying "they have lower intelligences" does not promote good Catholic conversation? Rather it creates hatred.
I understand that blacks commit a lot of crime in this county. But who started to instigate this? The Jєωιѕн revolutionaries.
I am tired of my fellow white people on this forum trying to boost themselves up by belittling others. I personally know some very intelligent black people who are smarter than me. Not to say that that is hard to do.
And no, I am not a liberal. I do not celebrate Martin Luther King Day at all. As a matter of fact, I think it is a joke.
But really!! Stop trying to incite people. There are many Blacks, especially Africans who do not belong to the hip-hop culture.
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You know Black people always have such a big beef on their shoulder about how "whitey" always owes them for their years of slavery and segregation and yet I wonder if any Black person will admit this? If we look at the crimes of Blacks all over the world it is quite obvious that considering they have the lowest intelligence (read The Bell Curve by Charles Murray) that that feature also makes them the most violent race of them all. Blacks are 250 times more likely to rape white women and they commit more than half the violent crime in this country. The same holds true in England where Blacks commit 147% more crime than the White English who have been there (most Blacks in England come from the Caribbean when they started to immigrate during the 1950's). Blacks are constantly involved in gang warfare in this country between Hispanic gangs and in England against Asian gangs and in return for this behavior they constantly try to demand more reparations from whitey. So considering they are the lowest in intelligence, the lowest in family-rearing (70% of Black children have no father), and the highest when it comes to gang and criminal-related activities I believe there is no way you can successfully try to put them in any European society without causing trouble and hatred. In France African gangs rioted in Paris after French authorities started to break down on immigrant enclaves. If you look at Europe today with the massive African and Arab population rolling in it will spell doom since Europeans have no courage anymore to kick out the former subject peoples of their empires.
Why are you trying to instigate bickering and hatred? Do you not know that this kind of talk like saying "they have lower intelligences" does not promote good Catholic conversation? Rather it creates hatred.
I understand that blacks commit a lot of crime in this county. But who started to instigate this? The Jєωιѕн revolutionaries.
I am tired of my fellow white people on this forum trying to boost themselves up by belittling others. I personally know some very intelligent black people who are smarter than me. Not to say that that is hard to do.
And no, I am not a liberal. I do not celebrate Martin Luther King Day at all. As a matter of fact, I think it is a joke.
But really!! Stop trying to incite people. There are many Blacks, especially Africans who do not belong to the hip-hop culture.
Excellent reply. One of the best I've seen. Hopefully the moderator when he sees this thread can delete it.
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If your argument was restricted to culture and not genetics or IQ, you wouldn't have such a mangled point from the gate.
Ah but genetics and IQ predetermine your cultural level. Obviously modern European culture is inferior thanks to foreign elements but even if we were to argue from a non-European point of view the Japanese for instance have a culture that is vastly superior to the culture in Africa. The Japanese history shows a race that has tried to hold on to its character despite Western influence and their values while non-Western are clearly more similar to Europe than say Africa.
Where do you get IQ and genetics predetermine cultural accomplishment? Where is this in the Bible or the Catholic faith? How about thinking about the Glory of God instead of the vanity of men for a change.
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Why are you trying to instigate bickering and hatred? Do you not know that this kind of talk like saying "they have lower intelligences" does not promote good Catholic conversation? Rather it creates hatred.
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But really!! Stop trying to incite people. There are many Blacks, especially Africans who do not belong to the hip-hop culture.
Are you implying that discussion about race is impossible, then? That it can never ever be discussed intelligently in any kind of community?
White liberals and cuckservatives have ALREADY been afraid of inciting bickering and hatred for over fifty years. A lot of good that's done this country.
Blacks want to be treated as equals? Then blacks need to be able to talk about facts--without going on a looting spree. If white people can keep their cool when talking about their problems, then blacks should be expected to as well.
Try this - Anarchy USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY2W1pQMI0w
Good video.
Also, I'm going to take OHCA off of the ignore list until, at the soonest, we're all done celebrating black people next month.
Have a wonderfully black February, everyone! :rahrah:
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Perhaps Croixalist attends Portland Community College:
Portland Community College to devote an entire month to 'whiteness'-shaming (http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7174)
It'd make sense.
"Those damned whites. Racist right down to their DNA. We'll make them all pay."
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Where do you get IQ and genetics predetermine cultural accomplishment? Where is this in the Bible or the Catholic faith? How about thinking about the Glory of God instead of the vanity of men for a change.
Scientific doctrines like the movement of the planets and the oxygen we use to breathe are also not in the Bible but they are scientific facts just as the facts speak very clear on race and cultural accomplishment.
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Excellent reply. One of the best I've seen. Hopefully the moderator when he sees this thread can delete it.
As usual with those on the Left, free speech can only be given to those who dare not defy your dogmas.
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Why are you trying to instigate bickering and hatred? Do you not know that this kind of talk like saying "they have lower intelligences" does not promote good Catholic conversation? Rather it creates hatred.
I understand that blacks commit a lot of crime in this county. But who started to instigate this? The Jєωιѕн revolutionaries.
I am tired of my fellow white people on this forum trying to boost themselves up by belittling others. I personally know some very intelligent black people who are smarter than me. Not to say that that is hard to do.
And no, I am not a liberal. I do not celebrate Martin Luther King Day at all. As a matter of fact, I think it is a joke.
But really!! Stop trying to incite people. There are many Blacks, especially Africans who do not belong to the hip-hop culture.
Yes you are correct that is not hard it would seem. Africans are violent because of their racial nature and also prey on young women because of their sɛҳuąƖ appetites. They do not belong in Europe but in Africa where they belong. You act like hip-hop is the only music Blacks ever came up with forgetting African music in Africa, jazz, swing, etc. which is also disgusting.
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Why are you trying to instigate bickering and hatred? Do you not know that this kind of talk like saying "they have lower intelligences" does not promote good Catholic conversation? Rather it creates hatred.
I understand that blacks commit a lot of crime in this county. But who started to instigate this? The Jєωιѕн revolutionaries.
I am tired of my fellow white people on this forum trying to boost themselves up by belittling others. I personally know some very intelligent black people who are smarter than me. Not to say that that is hard to do.
And no, I am not a liberal. I do not celebrate Martin Luther King Day at all. As a matter of fact, I think it is a joke.
But really!! Stop trying to incite people. There are many Blacks, especially Africans who do not belong to the hip-hop culture.
Yes you are correct that is not hard it would seem. Africans are violent because of their racial nature and also prey on young women because of their sɛҳuąƖ appetites. They do not belong in Europe but in Africa where they belong. You act like hip-hop is the only music Blacks ever came up with forgetting African music in Africa, jazz, swing, etc. which is also disgusting.
Then perhaps the Europeans belong in Europe, and not in America.
This is ridiculous, and racist.
Jazz and swing have multiple origins, and is not exclusively from Africa.
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Why are you trying to instigate bickering and hatred? Do you not know that this kind of talk like saying "they have lower intelligences" does not promote good Catholic conversation? Rather it creates hatred.
I understand that blacks commit a lot of crime in this county. But who started to instigate this? The Jєωιѕн revolutionaries.
I am tired of my fellow white people on this forum trying to boost themselves up by belittling others. I personally know some very intelligent black people who are smarter than me. Not to say that that is hard to do.
And no, I am not a liberal. I do not celebrate Martin Luther King Day at all. As a matter of fact, I think it is a joke.
But really!! Stop trying to incite people. There are many Blacks, especially Africans who do not belong to the hip-hop culture.
Yes you are correct that is not hard it would seem. Africans are violent because of their racial nature and also prey on young women because of their sɛҳuąƖ appetites. They do not belong in Europe but in Africa where they belong. You act like hip-hop is the only music Blacks ever came up with forgetting African music in Africa, jazz, swing, etc. which is also disgusting.
Tradition Guy 20, why don't you grow up? I have seen some of your other posts and quite frankly, you come across as a hot-head know it all.
As to whether or not the question of race can be argued, it can. But not with inciteful comments that can lead to bƖσσdshɛd if put in the right context. Let us have an educated discussion, not a South Bronx playground brawl with idiots sometimes on both sides. Seriously, stop the ad hominems. Have you never taken logic or debate class?
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Excellent reply. One of the best I've seen. Hopefully the moderator when he sees this thread can delete it.
As usual with those on the Left, free speech can only be given to those who dare not defy your dogmas.
Unregulated freedom of speech is condemned by the Catholic Church and lauded by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ... you Liberal ignoramus.
Of course there are differences in races...peoples. For example, Asian's often are noted for their intellectual aptitude. Those of Germanic extract regularly display the gift of high organizational and military skills. God has given the Irish a wonderful sense of humor and much more.
There are Saints canonized by the Church of all races.
You are a Traditional Fool!
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Marxists have been filling the world with race theory and anything and everything else to replace the Catholic Church. The Black community has been singled out early on and due to their lack of Catholicity had very little defense against it. Judging by the tone of your posts, you've been lured into it just like the rest of the Protestant mongrels. You'll be caught fighting for the white race instead of Christ. Many are called few are chosen.
Uh no actually the modern Catholic Church is fully Marxist. And for the record I of course want to defend my race (I think white is too broad of a term since English and French will not fight for each other) and anyone who does not is brainwashed since Blacks, Chinese, Latins, etc. will fight for their race.
The Catholic Church is now and always will be a perfect society.
Any black traditional Catholic of course knows that, flunky.
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There is only one race, the human race. All are made in the image and likeness of God.
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There is only one race, the human race. All are made in the image and likeness of God.
I agree. Don't listen to the nαzι-worshipper, supremacist queer Traditional Guy 20. It's other races keeping Roman Catholicism alive, I hope he realizes that, right?
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The Catholic Church is now and always will be a perfect society.
Any black traditional Catholic of course knows that, flunky.
Hahaha you say this when Catholic priests were openly supporting Marxism?
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There is only one race, the human race. All are made in the image and likeness of God.
There is not one human race. That is a fallacy of thinking that the world works exactly how the Bible says and nothing more. Races are divided up not only by the color of skin but racial achievement. Honestly we have Blacks having relations with Germanic women now and you consider those two racial groups the same?!
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I agree. Don't listen to the nαzι-worshipper, supremacist queer Traditional Guy 20. It's other races keeping Roman Catholicism alive, I hope he realizes that, right?
You do realise nαzι is a Jєωιѕн term right, as it comes from the Askenαzι Jєωιѕн racial group. The real term used was National Socialist. And as for queer a man who refuses to take action to defend his race is a 'queer' in my book. Well the white race itself is dying because of feminism and a lack of a high birthrate from its female populace. When it disappears all culture will disappear as well.
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The Catholic Church is now and always will be a perfect society.
Any black traditional Catholic of course knows that, flunky.
Hahaha you say this when Catholic priests were openly supporting Marxism?
If it were discovered that a Catholic priest was openly supporting the heresy of Marxism, he would incur latae sententiae excommunication from the Catholic Church... fool.
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If it were discovered that a Catholic priest was openly supporting the heresy of Marxism, he would incur latae sententiae excommunication from the Catholic Church... fool.
Well then considering that Catholic priests openly supported Marxism from the 40's to today hundreds of priests deserve to be excommunicated...fool.
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Tradition Guy 20, why don't you grow up? I have seen some of your other posts and quite frankly, you come across as a hot-head know it all.
As to whether or not the question of race can be argued, it can. But not with inciteful comments that can lead to bƖσσdshɛd if put in the right context. Let us have an educated discussion, not a South Bronx playground brawl with idiots sometimes on both sides. Seriously, stop the ad hominems. Have you never taken logic or debate class?
An educated discussion is quite frankly beyond what is needed as nothing is ever accomplished with books and words but only action. In regards to me coming across as a "know-it-all" really Americans are not that hard to debate especially in regards to race.
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Then perhaps the Europeans belong in Europe, and not in America.
This is ridiculous, and racist.
Jazz and swing have multiple origins, and is not exclusively from Africa.
Actually I believe the American Indian should have his land returned to him.
No, not racist just the truth. It seems the truth is always called names these days. Blacks are like beasts in that they sɛҳuąƖly prey on girls they can find.
Obviously it has multiple origins but jazz and swing was originally created as music which could bridge the racial divide and integrate Blacks and Whites together.
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If it were discovered that a Catholic priest was openly supporting the heresy of Marxism, he would incur latae sententiae excommunication from the Catholic Church... fool.
Well then considering that Catholic priests openly supported Marxism from the 40's to today hundreds of priests deserve to be excommunicated...fool.
Bad Guy 20,
Please provide docuмentation to support your broad statement that Catholic priests openly supported Marxism from 1940 to 1949.
I am sure there could have been a few bad apples that were excommunicated from 1940-1949, but your statement is horribly imprecise. Maybe that was your intention.
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ranlare you are aware Catholic priests supported the Italian partisans no?
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There is only one race, the human race. All are made in the image and likeness of God.
There is not one human race. That is a fallacy of thinking that the world works exactly how the Bible says and nothing more. Races are divided up not only by the color of skin but racial achievement. Honestly we have Blacks having relations with Germanic women now and you consider those two racial groups the same?!
There is a difference between race and ethnicity.
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ranlare you are aware Catholic priests supported the Italian partisans no?
According to various historians, so did Pius XII...at least in certain docuмented situations.
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ranlare you are aware Catholic priests supported the Italian partisans no?
According to various historians, so did Pius XII...at least in certain docuмented situations.
Then you just proved my point...Italian partisans were commies.
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There is a difference between race and ethnicity.
Uh no. Look at the feline family which has cats, lions, tigers, etc. None can propagate with each other and if they could nature would make the offspring sick and weak. All three have definite differences. The same is true with humanity and the different races.
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ranlare you are aware Catholic priests supported the Italian partisans no?
According to various historians, so did Pius XII...at least in certain docuмented situations.
Then you just proved my point...Italian partisans were commies.
Pius XII condemned communism.
Historians say that some Catholics and monarchists were part of that unofficial guerrilla warfare militia force (the Italian partisans).
I will say I wish Pius XII would have officially backed European Catholics during WW2, who were organized, and who sought his official blessing to wage war against the Communist Soviet Union, and did not receive it, at that time.
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There is a difference between race and ethnicity.
Uh no. Look at the feline family which has cats, lions, tigers, etc. None can propagate with each other and if they could nature would make the offspring sick and weak. All three have definite differences. The same is true with humanity and the different races.
Absolutely not!
There is one human race. One. Many ethnicities, one race. Humans are in no way similar to the feline family. The concept of race is a social construct, not a genetic one.
There are ethnic differences between people. These differences should not determine an absolute superiority or inferiority of a people.
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There is a difference between race and ethnicity.
Uh no. Look at the feline family which has cats, lions, tigers, etc. None can propagate with each other and if they could nature would make the offspring sick and weak. All three have definite differences. The same is true with humanity and the different races.
Absolutely not!
There is one human race. One. Many ethnicities, one race. Humans are in no way similar to the feline family. The concept of race is a social construct, not a genetic one.
There are ethnic differences between people. These differences should not determine an absolute superiority or inferiority of a people.
This modern idea, folks, is an example of the fruits of the programming of jewtube pioneer frocked heretic Fred Rogers a/k/a Mister Rogers.
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There is a difference between race and ethnicity.
Uh no. Look at the feline family which has cats, lions, tigers, etc. None can propagate with each other and if they could nature would make the offspring sick and weak. All three have definite differences. The same is true with humanity and the different races.
Absolutely not!
There is one human race. One. Many ethnicities, one race. Humans are in no way similar to the feline family. The concept of race is a social construct, not a genetic one.
There are ethnic differences between people. These differences should not determine an absolute superiority or inferiority of a people.
This modern idea, folks, is an example of the fruits of the programming of jewtube pioneer frocked heretic Fred Rogers a/k/a Mister Rogers.
If you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all, OHCA.
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This modern idea, folks, is an example of the fruits of the programming of jewtube pioneer frocked heretic Fred Rogers a/k/a Mister Rogers.
Absolutely. I wonder if these two, ranlare and Manuel Chavez, are not closet Jews themselves trying to spread their nonsense about race only being a social construct. Race is as real as the differences between the felines. Just as a liger in nature will be sterile along with sick and weak in the wild and a mule will also be sterile and sick and weak in the wild, mixed races such as a mulatto will be inferior to the higher race.
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Just to prove a point Equatorial Negroes have a culture subsisting entirely of mud huts, spears and inferior African music of bongo beating and dancing around a campfire. That is the lowest of the low in terms of cultural ability. Germanic peoples have the works of Mozart and Beethoven with its order and discipline. Even your Italians have the creative genius of such masters as Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Galileo Galilei, Dante Aligheri, etc. You cannot find creative genius or order and discipline in African culture.
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This modern idea, folks, is an example of the fruits of the programming of jewtube pioneer frocked heretic Fred Rogers a/k/a Mister Rogers.
Absolutely. I wonder if these two, ranlare and Manuel Chavez, are not closet Jews themselves trying to spread their nonsense about race only being a social construct. Race is as real as the differences between the felines. Just as a liger in nature will be sterile along with sick and weak in the wild and a mule will also be sterile and sick and weak in the wild, mixed races such as a mulatto will be inferior to the higher race.
I am no Jew, but it appears that you may be a white supremacist. Your analogy of the feline is flawed, rhetorically and scientifically speaking.
Your notions of races are not compatible with the Catholic faith. We are all human. What makes us inferior or superior is the faith, and how closely we follow the will of God. Our genetics and our ethnic differences are nothing compared to the faith. A faithful black man is superior to a perfidious white man, despite all the hoopla regarding "race".
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Bad Guy 20,
What is your point? Of course there are different races, cultures (some higher than others).
A traditional refined European Frenchman and his culture is at a higher level than say perhaps you, I am guessing you come from a long-line of European vagabond Gypsy rag pickers.
OK, the former is higher than the latter.
Catholics are not egalitarians. They know men are not all created equal.
Can you stop your boring race baiting now? :sleep:
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I am no Jew, but it appears that you may be a white supremacist. Your analogy of the feline is flawed, rhetorically and scientifically speaking.
"White supremacist" is a loaded word that means nothing just like the notion of me being a nαzι. Pride in my own race does not mean I belittle other races IF they are on the same cultural level. For instance the Chinese and Japanese could be argued have a history superior to Germanic peoples. Closet Jew means you are a useful Goy who wishes to see the white race bastardised by Negro blood.
Your notions of races are not compatible with the Catholic faith. We are all human. What makes us inferior or superior is the faith, and how closely we follow the will of God. Our genetics and our ethnic differences are nothing compared to the faith. A faithful black man is superior to a perfidious white man, despite all the hoopla regarding "race".
Don't you know that the Catholic faith does not believe in Sola Scriptura and therefore believes in the advancements of science and knowledge. My analogy is correct since races are just like subspecies in a human. Every race has different intelligence and physical differences. And a "faithful" Black man is still inferior in any cultural ability. Race was a doctrine of science until the 1940's when the Jews had it dismissed from scientific journals since they control all fields of research now.
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Bad Guy 20,
What is your point? Of course there are different races, cultures (some higher than others).
A traditional refined European Frenchman and his culture is at a higher level than say perhaps you, I am guessing you come from a long-line of European vagabond Gypsy rag pickers.
OK, the former is higher than the latter.
Catholics are not egalitarians and know men are not all created equal.
Can you stop your boring race baiting now? :sleep:
"Refined" Frenchman? HAHAHA! Name one please since France is home to some of the biggest whores in Europe. And I am not an inferior Gypsy, thank you, which are Indian "untouchables" who migrated to Europe.
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Bad Guy 20,
What is your point? Of course there are different races, cultures (some higher than others).
A traditional refined European Frenchman and his culture is at a higher level than say perhaps you, I am guessing you come from a long-line of European vagabond Gypsy rag pickers.
OK, the former is higher than the latter.
Catholics are not egalitarians and know men are not all created equal.
Can you stop your boring race baiting now? :sleep:
"Refined" Frenchman? HAHAHA! Name one please since France is home to some of the biggest whores in Europe. And I am not an inferior Gypsy, thank you, which are Indian "untouchables" who migrated to Europe.
I was stating in general...over time, French Catholics have made significant advances to civilization, compared to bigoted white *refuse like you.
*As a noun, refuse (pronounced REF-yooss)
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I am no Jew, but it appears that you may be a white supremacist. Your analogy of the feline is flawed, rhetorically and scientifically speaking.
"White supremacist" is a loaded word that means nothing just like the notion of me being a nαzι. Pride in my own race does not mean I belittle other races IF they are on the same cultural level. For instance the Chinese and Japanese could be argued have a history superior to Germanic peoples. Closet Jew means you are a useful Goy who wishes to see the white race bastardised by Negro blood.
Your notions of races are not compatible with the Catholic faith. We are all human. What makes us inferior or superior is the faith, and how closely we follow the will of God. Our genetics and our ethnic differences are nothing compared to the faith. A faithful black man is superior to a perfidious white man, despite all the hoopla regarding "race".
Don't you know that the Catholic faith does not believe in Sola Scriptura and therefore believes in the advancements of science and knowledge. My analogy is correct since races are just like subspecies in a human. Every race has different intelligence and physical differences. And a "faithful" Black man is still inferior in any cultural ability. Race was a doctrine of science until the 1940's when the Jews had it dismissed from scientific journals since they control all fields of research now.
White Supremacist may not quote cover your underlying psychosis well enough. It is more than pride; it is a sinful and arrogant "pride", one that could easily condemn your soul from a lack of charity that is so clearly manifest in your notions of "race". The human race is bastardized by sin, and human frailty affects all; white, black and everything in between.
Your analogy is entirely incorrect, as feline is a "family", and human is considered a species, which is a subset of a genus, which is a subset of a family, scientifically speaking. Races are not subspecies; they are genetically minor variations within the same species. In order for your analogy to be correct, you must compare feline family to the Hominidae family, which also includes seven extant species in four genera: Pongo, the Bornean and Sumatran orangutan; Gorilla, the eastern and western gorilla; Pan, the common chimpanzee and bonobo.
When God calls each of us to our judgement, He will not ask, "Did you have a superior cultural or genetic ability". He will ask, "how did you pick up your cross and follow Me?"
Your obsession with race is unhealthy. It is borderline psychotic. If anything, you are the tool of the likes of Margaret Sanger and others who had such "pride" in their "superior race."
Put aside the delusions of grandeur. It is not befitting of a Catholic.
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White Supremacist may not "cover" your underlying psychosis well enough.
Or at all, for that matter.
When God calls each of us to our judgement, He will not ask, "Did you have a superior cultural or genetic ability"
No. But He will ask us what we did with the talents He gave us. Each man is equal in dignity before God. But we are not equal genetically at all. Some of us possess what other ethnicities do not have, and vice-versa. It behooves us to learn the differences, be honest about it, and find a Catholic solution to make the differences compliment one another. Becoming a blank-slatist and ignoring every obvious fact about racial differences is ѕυιcιdє, and it gets society what we have today. Hate.
For example, this reply from you is VERY hateful. And willfully ignorant.
Your obsession with race is unhealthy. It is borderline psychotic.
Your obsession for opposing race talk is unhealthy. It is borderline psychotic.
If anything, you are the tool of the likes of Margaret Sanger and others who had such "pride" in their "superior race."
:roll-laugh1: Tool.
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From LaramieHirsh: No. But He will ask us what we did with the talents He gave us. Each man is equal in dignity before God. But we are not equal genetically at all. Some of us possess what other ethnicities do not have, and vice-versa. It behooves us to learn the differences, be honest about it, and find a Catholic solution to make the differences compliment one another. Becoming a blank-slatist and ignoring every obvious fact about racial differences is ѕυιcιdє, and it gets society what we have today. Hate.
My Response: The Catholic solution to any ethnic disparities is simple:
To feed the hungry;
To give drink to the thirsty;
To clothe the naked;
To harbour the harbourless;
To visit the sick;
To ransom the captive;
To bury the dead.
And for spiritual works:
To instruct the ignorant;
To counsel the doubtful;
To admonish sinners;
To bear wrongs patiently;
To forgive offences willingly;
To comfort the afflicted;
To pray for the living and the dead.
I will acknowledge ethnic difference of the one human race, but I will not qualify these differences, nor do support the notion of a "superior race," which is a notion unbecoming of any Catholic.
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ManuelChavez, I agree with your last post. I just wish the rest of the world did.
Unfortunately, liberals like to learn things the hard way. Or sometimes not at all, for that matter.
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Just to prove a point Equatorial Negroes have a culture subsisting entirely of mud huts, spears and inferior African music of bongo beating and dancing around a campfire. That is the lowest of the low in terms of cultural ability....
"Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me."
... Germanic peoples have the works of Mozart and Beethoven with its order and discipline. Even your Italians have the creative genius of such masters as Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Galileo Galilei, Dante Aligheri, etc. You cannot find creative genius or order and discipline in African culture.
"For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul?"
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I will acknowledge ethnic difference of the one human race, but I will not qualify these differences...
I am not sure I understand. Are you saying that though you acknowledge ethnic differences exist, that you will not delve into discussion regarding the specifics of those differences?
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ManuelChavez, I agree with your last post. I just wish the rest of the world did.
Unfortunately, liberals like to learn things the hard way. Or sometimes not at all, for that matter.
Differences are one thing. Differences that amount to making one "superior", "inferior", "primitive" or "advanced" is completely subjective. When it comes to the brain, the most adaptable and complex organ ever known in the natural world, we only have a few means of gauging it's potential: performance and physical measurements.
Listening to you guys, you'd think we've got the brain completely figured out! After all, you wouldn't dare toss around the idea that an entire race can be mentally inferior if you didn't have total mastery on the subject!
Tests like "IQ" can measure certain performance levels, but it's actualized... and very influenced by the culture they come from. Is it any small wonder atheists possess the highest IQs? Yeah. Keep on using those test scores kids!
There are no tests for potential, nor can there be. History is bursting with insufferable snobs forecasting dim prospects for future "geniuses." If it's foolish to do on an individual basis, it's utterly outlandish to do on a genetic level for an entire race of people.
Physical measurements for intelligence usually include brain-to-body ratios and neuron counts, neither one of which humans rank as number one.
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When I said that Traditional Guy 20's comments were borderline psychotic, I was focusing on the following:
"Closet Jew means you are a useful Goy who wishes to see the white race bastardised by Negro blood."
Along with a few other quotes of similar caliber, such as this:
"Just as a liger in nature will be sterile along with sick and weak in the wild and a mule will also be sterile and sick and weak in the wild, mixed races such as a mulatto will be inferior to the higher race."
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When I said that Traditional Guy 20's comments were borderline psychotic, I was focusing on the following:
"Closet Jew means you are a useful Goy who wishes to see the white race bastardised by Negro blood."
Along with a few other quotes of similar caliber, such as this:
"Just as a liger in nature will be sterile along with sick and weak in the wild and a mule will also be sterile and sick and weak in the wild, mixed races such as a mulatto will be inferior to the higher race."
The Mulatto Blessed Martin de Porres (d. 1639)
Blessed Martin de Porres was born in 1579 in Lima, the illegitimate son of a Spanish nobleman; his mother, of Negro and Indian blood, was a freed slave. He became a lay brother in the Dominican Order and was assigned as infirmarian. Fray Martin was raised to the highest state of union with God. He was often seen levitating, had frequent visions, raised a dead man to life, cured the sick, bi-located, and conversed with animals. He was known for his heroic charity. He and his holy sister founded a hospice for the sick/poor. It is also related that a light constantly shone round about him. He died in 1639 at the age of seventy.
"The startling miracles, which caused Martin to be called a saint in his own lifetime, continue today at his intercession. He lived a life of almost constant prayer, and practiced remarkable austerities. He worked at hard and menial tasks without ever losing a moment of union with God. His charity, humility, and obedience were extraordinary--even for a saint. Such was the veneration for Martin that the canonical inquiry into his cause was begun in 1660 (Attwater, Cavallini, Delaney, Dorcy, Farmer, Walsh, White)."
Prayers/Commemorations
First Vespers:Ant. Strengthen by holy intercession, O Martin, confessor of the Lord, those here present, have we who are burdened with the weight of our offenses may be relieved by the glory of thy blessedness, and may by thy guidance attain eternal rewards.
V. Pray for us, Blessed Martin.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Lauds:
Ant. Well done, good and faithful servant, because Thou hast been faithful in a few things, I will set thee over many, sayeth the Lord.
V. The just man shall blossom like the lily.
R. And shall flourish forever before the Lord.
Second Vespers:
Ant. I will liken him unto a wise man, who built his house upon a rock..
V. Pray for us. Blessed Martin.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Prayer:
Let us Pray: O God, who exaltest the humble, and midst make Blessed Martin Thy Confessor, pass to the heavenly kingdom, grant through his merits and intercession that we may so imitate his humility on earth as to deserve to be exalted with him in heaven. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.
Prayer to Blessed Martin de Porres
To you Blessed Martin de Porres we prayerfully lift up our hearts filled with serene confidence and devotion. Mindful of your unbounded and helpful charity to all levels of society and also of your meekness and humility of heart, we offer our petitions to you. Pour out upon our families the precious gifts of your solicitous and generous intercession; show to the people of every race and every color the paths of unity and of justice; implore from our Father in heaven the coming of his kingdom, so that through mutual benevolence in God men may increase the fruits of grace and merit the rewards of eternal life. Amen.
The Litany of Blessed Martin de Porres
For Private Use Only.
Lord, have mercy,
Christ have mercy on us.
Lord, have mercy. Christ, here us.
Christ, graciously hear us,
God the Father of Heaven,
have mercy on us.
God the Son, Redeemer of the world,
have mercy on us.
God, the Holy Ghost,
have mercy on us.
Holy Trinity, One God,
have mercy on us.
Holy Mary, Queen of the Most Holy Rosary,
Pray for us.
Blessed Martin, ever in the presence of God,
Pray for us.
Blessed Martin, faithful servant of Christ, etc.
Blessed Martin, lover of the Holy Eucharist,
Blessed Martin, devoted to our Blessed Mother,
Blessed Martin, spiritual patron of Americans,
Blessed Martin, raised from the depths to a heavenly mansion,
Blessed Martin, honored son of Saint Dominic,
Blessed Martin, lover of the Most Holy Rosary,
Blessed Martin, apostle of mercy,
Blessed Martin, winged minister of charity,
Blessed Martin, miraculously conveyed to far-distant lands,
Blessed Martin, freed from the barriers of time and space,
Blessed Martin, seeking the conversion of sinners,
Blessed Martin, protector of the tempted and repentant,
Blessed Martin, helper of souls in doubt and darkness,
Blessed Martin, compassionate to the sorrowful and afflicted,
Blessed Martin, consoler of the discouraged and unfortunate,
Blessed Martin, peacemaker in all discords,
Blessed Martin, touched by all suffering,
Blessed Martin, comforter of the sick and dying,
Blessed Martin, angel to hospitals and prisons,
Blessed Martin, worker of miraculous cures,
Blessed Martin, guardian of the homeless child,
Blessed Martin, humbly hiding God-given powers,
Blessed Martin, devoted to holy poverty,
Blessed Martin, model of obedience,
Blessed Martin, lover of heroic penance,
Blessed Martin, strong in self-denial,
Blessed Martin, performing menial tasks with holy ardor,
Blessed Martin, gifted with prophecy,
Blessed Martin, symbol of interracial brotherhood,
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Spare us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Graciously hear us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Have mercy on us.
V. Pray for us, Blessed Martin,
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Let Us Pray.
O God, the exalter of the humble, Who didst make Blessed Martin, Thy confessor, to enter the heavenly Kingdom, grant through his merits and intercession that we may so follow the example of his humility on earth as to deserve to be exalted with him in Heaven, through Christ Our Lord. R. Amen.
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When I said that Traditional Guy 20's comments were borderline psychotic, I was focusing on the following:
"Closet Jew means you are a useful Goy who wishes to see the white race bastardised by Negro blood."
Along with a few other quotes of similar caliber, such as this:
"Just as a liger in nature will be sterile along with sick and weak in the wild and a mule will also be sterile and sick and weak in the wild, mixed races such as a mulatto will be inferior to the higher race."
The Mulatto Blessed Martin de Porres (d. 1639)
Blessed Martin de Porres was born in 1579 in Lima, the illegitimate son of a Spanish nobleman; his mother, of Negro and Indian blood, was a freed slave. He became a lay brother in the Dominican Order and was assigned as infirmarian. Fray Martin was raised to the highest state of union with God. He was often seen levitating, had frequent visions, raised a dead man to life, cured the sick, bi-located, and conversed with animals. He was known for his heroic charity. He and his holy sister founded a hospice for the sick/poor. It is also related that a light constantly shone round about him. He died in 1639 at the age of seventy.
"The startling miracles, which caused Martin to be called a saint in his own lifetime, continue today at his intercession. He lived a life of almost constant prayer, and practiced remarkable austerities. He worked at hard and menial tasks without ever losing a moment of union with God. His charity, humility, and obedience were extraordinary--even for a saint. Such was the veneration for Martin that the canonical inquiry into his cause was begun in 1660 (Attwater, Cavallini, Delaney, Dorcy, Farmer, Walsh, White)."
Prayers/Commemorations
First Vespers:Ant. Strengthen by holy intercession, O Martin, confessor of the Lord, those here present, have we who are burdened with the weight of our offenses may be relieved by the glory of thy blessedness, and may by thy guidance attain eternal rewards.
V. Pray for us, Blessed Martin.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Lauds:
Ant. Well done, good and faithful servant, because Thou hast been faithful in a few things, I will set thee over many, sayeth the Lord.
V. The just man shall blossom like the lily.
R. And shall flourish forever before the Lord.
Second Vespers:
Ant. I will liken him unto a wise man, who built his house upon a rock..
V. Pray for us. Blessed Martin.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Prayer:
Let us Pray: O God, who exaltest the humble, and midst make Blessed Martin Thy Confessor, pass to the heavenly kingdom, grant through his merits and intercession that we may so imitate his humility on earth as to deserve to be exalted with him in heaven. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.
Prayer to Blessed Martin de Porres
To you Blessed Martin de Porres we prayerfully lift up our hearts filled with serene confidence and devotion. Mindful of your unbounded and helpful charity to all levels of society and also of your meekness and humility of heart, we offer our petitions to you. Pour out upon our families the precious gifts of your solicitous and generous intercession; show to the people of every race and every color the paths of unity and of justice; implore from our Father in heaven the coming of his kingdom, so that through mutual benevolence in God men may increase the fruits of grace and merit the rewards of eternal life. Amen.
The Litany of Blessed Martin de Porres
For Private Use Only.
Lord, have mercy,
Christ have mercy on us.
Lord, have mercy. Christ, here us.
Christ, graciously hear us,
God the Father of Heaven,
have mercy on us.
God the Son, Redeemer of the world,
have mercy on us.
God, the Holy Ghost,
have mercy on us.
Holy Trinity, One God,
have mercy on us.
Holy Mary, Queen of the Most Holy Rosary,
Pray for us.
Blessed Martin, ever in the presence of God,
Pray for us.
Blessed Martin, faithful servant of Christ, etc.
Blessed Martin, lover of the Holy Eucharist,
Blessed Martin, devoted to our Blessed Mother,
Blessed Martin, spiritual patron of Americans,
Blessed Martin, raised from the depths to a heavenly mansion,
Blessed Martin, honored son of Saint Dominic,
Blessed Martin, lover of the Most Holy Rosary,
Blessed Martin, apostle of mercy,
Blessed Martin, winged minister of charity,
Blessed Martin, miraculously conveyed to far-distant lands,
Blessed Martin, freed from the barriers of time and space,
Blessed Martin, seeking the conversion of sinners,
Blessed Martin, protector of the tempted and repentant,
Blessed Martin, helper of souls in doubt and darkness,
Blessed Martin, compassionate to the sorrowful and afflicted,
Blessed Martin, consoler of the discouraged and unfortunate,
Blessed Martin, peacemaker in all discords,
Blessed Martin, touched by all suffering,
Blessed Martin, comforter of the sick and dying,
Blessed Martin, angel to hospitals and prisons,
Blessed Martin, worker of miraculous cures,
Blessed Martin, guardian of the homeless child,
Blessed Martin, humbly hiding God-given powers,
Blessed Martin, devoted to holy poverty,
Blessed Martin, model of obedience,
Blessed Martin, lover of heroic penance,
Blessed Martin, strong in self-denial,
Blessed Martin, performing menial tasks with holy ardor,
Blessed Martin, gifted with prophecy,
Blessed Martin, symbol of interracial brotherhood,
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Spare us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Graciously hear us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Have mercy on us.
V. Pray for us, Blessed Martin,
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Let Us Pray.
O God, the exalter of the humble, Who didst make Blessed Martin, Thy confessor, to enter the heavenly Kingdom, grant through his merits and intercession that we may so follow the example of his humility on earth as to deserve to be exalted with him in Heaven, through Christ Our Lord. R. Amen.
Thank you for this. It will be my reading material and prayer guide for the day.
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When I said that Traditional Guy 20's comments were borderline psychotic, I was focusing on the following:
"Closet Jew means you are a useful Goy who wishes to see the white race bastardised by Negro blood."
Along with a few other quotes of similar caliber, such as this:
"Just as a liger in nature will be sterile along with sick and weak in the wild and a mule will also be sterile and sick and weak in the wild, mixed races such as a mulatto will be inferior to the higher race."
The Mulatto Blessed Martin de Porres (d. 1639)
Blessed Martin de Porres was born in 1579 in Lima, the illegitimate son of a Spanish nobleman; his mother, of Negro and Indian blood, was a freed slave. He became a lay brother in the Dominican Order and was assigned as infirmarian. Fray Martin was raised to the highest state of union with God. He was often seen levitating, had frequent visions, raised a dead man to life, cured the sick, bi-located, and conversed with animals. He was known for his heroic charity. He and his holy sister founded a hospice for the sick/poor. It is also related that a light constantly shone round about him. He died in 1639 at the age of seventy.
"The startling miracles, which caused Martin to be called a saint in his own lifetime, continue today at his intercession. He lived a life of almost constant prayer, and practiced remarkable austerities. He worked at hard and menial tasks without ever losing a moment of union with God. His charity, humility, and obedience were extraordinary--even for a saint. Such was the veneration for Martin that the canonical inquiry into his cause was begun in 1660 (Attwater, Cavallini, Delaney, Dorcy, Farmer, Walsh, White)."
Prayers/Commemorations
First Vespers:Ant. Strengthen by holy intercession, O Martin, confessor of the Lord, those here present, have we who are burdened with the weight of our offenses may be relieved by the glory of thy blessedness, and may by thy guidance attain eternal rewards.
V. Pray for us, Blessed Martin.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Lauds:
Ant. Well done, good and faithful servant, because Thou hast been faithful in a few things, I will set thee over many, sayeth the Lord.
V. The just man shall blossom like the lily.
R. And shall flourish forever before the Lord.
Second Vespers:
Ant. I will liken him unto a wise man, who built his house upon a rock..
V. Pray for us. Blessed Martin.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Prayer:
Let us Pray: O God, who exaltest the humble, and midst make Blessed Martin Thy Confessor, pass to the heavenly kingdom, grant through his merits and intercession that we may so imitate his humility on earth as to deserve to be exalted with him in heaven. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.
Prayer to Blessed Martin de Porres
To you Blessed Martin de Porres we prayerfully lift up our hearts filled with serene confidence and devotion. Mindful of your unbounded and helpful charity to all levels of society and also of your meekness and humility of heart, we offer our petitions to you. Pour out upon our families the precious gifts of your solicitous and generous intercession; show to the people of every race and every color the paths of unity and of justice; implore from our Father in heaven the coming of his kingdom, so that through mutual benevolence in God men may increase the fruits of grace and merit the rewards of eternal life. Amen.
The Litany of Blessed Martin de Porres
For Private Use Only.
Lord, have mercy,
Christ have mercy on us.
Lord, have mercy. Christ, here us.
Christ, graciously hear us,
God the Father of Heaven,
have mercy on us.
God the Son, Redeemer of the world,
have mercy on us.
God, the Holy Ghost,
have mercy on us.
Holy Trinity, One God,
have mercy on us.
Holy Mary, Queen of the Most Holy Rosary,
Pray for us.
Blessed Martin, ever in the presence of God,
Pray for us.
Blessed Martin, faithful servant of Christ, etc.
Blessed Martin, lover of the Holy Eucharist,
Blessed Martin, devoted to our Blessed Mother,
Blessed Martin, spiritual patron of Americans,
Blessed Martin, raised from the depths to a heavenly mansion,
Blessed Martin, honored son of Saint Dominic,
Blessed Martin, lover of the Most Holy Rosary,
Blessed Martin, apostle of mercy,
Blessed Martin, winged minister of charity,
Blessed Martin, miraculously conveyed to far-distant lands,
Blessed Martin, freed from the barriers of time and space,
Blessed Martin, seeking the conversion of sinners,
Blessed Martin, protector of the tempted and repentant,
Blessed Martin, helper of souls in doubt and darkness,
Blessed Martin, compassionate to the sorrowful and afflicted,
Blessed Martin, consoler of the discouraged and unfortunate,
Blessed Martin, peacemaker in all discords,
Blessed Martin, touched by all suffering,
Blessed Martin, comforter of the sick and dying,
Blessed Martin, angel to hospitals and prisons,
Blessed Martin, worker of miraculous cures,
Blessed Martin, guardian of the homeless child,
Blessed Martin, humbly hiding God-given powers,
Blessed Martin, devoted to holy poverty,
Blessed Martin, model of obedience,
Blessed Martin, lover of heroic penance,
Blessed Martin, strong in self-denial,
Blessed Martin, performing menial tasks with holy ardor,
Blessed Martin, gifted with prophecy,
Blessed Martin, symbol of interracial brotherhood,
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Spare us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Graciously hear us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Have mercy on us.
V. Pray for us, Blessed Martin,
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Let Us Pray.
O God, the exalter of the humble, Who didst make Blessed Martin, Thy confessor, to enter the heavenly Kingdom, grant through his merits and intercession that we may so follow the example of his humility on earth as to deserve to be exalted with him in Heaven, through Christ Our Lord. R. Amen.
Thank you for this. It will be my reading material and prayer guide for the day.
No problem. You have posted some very good insights on this thread. Your user name sounds like you may have Spanish ancestry? Thanks to those holy souls, Ferdinand & Isabella, Columbus, etc., pagan America was brought the light of faith.
I really hope CI can clamp down/delete these race baiting threads.
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When I said that Traditional Guy 20's comments were borderline psychotic, I was focusing on the following:
"Closet Jew means you are a useful Goy who wishes to see the white race bastardised by Negro blood."
Well maybe to you it is psychotic but to a rational human being that is fact. I remind you again that in science up until the 1940's race was considered a scientific fact and it was also considered a scientific fact that the white race was considered superior to all other cultures. I will also ask you this. Please tell me what culture Africa has ever offered to the world besides corrupt Negro music?
Along with a few other quotes of similar caliber, such as this:
"Just as a liger in nature will be sterile along with sick and weak in the wild and a mule will also be sterile and sick and weak in the wild, mixed races such as a mulatto will be inferior to the higher race."
Jews are behind the racial inter-mixture of Negro blood in the heart of Europe. What does that tell you?
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No problem. You have posted some very good insights on this thread. Your user name sounds like you may have Spanish ancestry? Thanks to those holy souls, Ferdinand & Isabella, Columbus, etc., pagan America was brought the light of faith.
I really hope CI can clamp down/delete these race baiting threads.
His name sounds like he is a mestizo but I may be wrong (only Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay are free of racial admixture). One only needs to look at the inferior culture in Latin America to see the dangers of racial mixing. I find it funny you mention the Spanish and Portuguese Empires since those empires made slaves out of inferior peoples and subjugated them to their will. The downfall of both empires can be seen in racial mixing.
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Oh by the way your praying for Christ to end my racial hatred means nothing to me since your view of religion is a species of Marxism that promotes racial and social equality while my view is that Christ was a revolutionary who was the greatest enemy of the Jews and Jєωιѕн capitalism, therefore his foes are my foes.
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Just to prove a point Equatorial Negroes have a culture subsisting entirely of mud huts, spears and inferior African music of bongo beating and dancing around a campfire. That is the lowest of the low in terms of cultural ability....
"Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me."
... Germanic peoples have the works of Mozart and Beethoven with its order and discipline. Even your Italians have the creative genius of such masters as Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Galileo Galilei, Dante Aligheri, etc. You cannot find creative genius or order and discipline in African culture.
"For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul?"
In England the working-class such as yourself is racially inferior so I am not surprised you have good things to say about Blacks.
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When I said that Traditional Guy 20's comments were borderline psychotic, I was focusing on the following:
"Closet Jew means you are a useful Goy who wishes to see the white race bastardised by Negro blood."
Along with a few other quotes of similar caliber, such as this:
"Just as a liger in nature will be sterile along with sick and weak in the wild and a mule will also be sterile and sick and weak in the wild, mixed races such as a mulatto will be inferior to the higher race."
The Mulatto Blessed Martin de Porres (d. 1639)
Blessed Martin de Porres was born in 1579 in Lima, the illegitimate son of a Spanish nobleman; his mother, of Negro and Indian blood, was a freed slave. He became a lay brother in the Dominican Order and was assigned as infirmarian. Fray Martin was raised to the highest state of union with God. He was often seen levitating, had frequent visions, raised a dead man to life, cured the sick, bi-located, and conversed with animals. He was known for his heroic charity. He and his holy sister founded a hospice for the sick/poor. It is also related that a light constantly shone round about him. He died in 1639 at the age of seventy.
"The startling miracles, which caused Martin to be called a saint in his own lifetime, continue today at his intercession. He lived a life of almost constant prayer, and practiced remarkable austerities. He worked at hard and menial tasks without ever losing a moment of union with God. His charity, humility, and obedience were extraordinary--even for a saint. Such was the veneration for Martin that the canonical inquiry into his cause was begun in 1660 (Attwater, Cavallini, Delaney, Dorcy, Farmer, Walsh, White)."
Prayers/Commemorations
First Vespers:Ant. Strengthen by holy intercession, O Martin, confessor of the Lord, those here present, have we who are burdened with the weight of our offenses may be relieved by the glory of thy blessedness, and may by thy guidance attain eternal rewards.
V. Pray for us, Blessed Martin.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Lauds:
Ant. Well done, good and faithful servant, because Thou hast been faithful in a few things, I will set thee over many, sayeth the Lord.
V. The just man shall blossom like the lily.
R. And shall flourish forever before the Lord.
Second Vespers:
Ant. I will liken him unto a wise man, who built his house upon a rock..
V. Pray for us. Blessed Martin.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Prayer:
Let us Pray: O God, who exaltest the humble, and midst make Blessed Martin Thy Confessor, pass to the heavenly kingdom, grant through his merits and intercession that we may so imitate his humility on earth as to deserve to be exalted with him in heaven. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.
Prayer to Blessed Martin de Porres
To you Blessed Martin de Porres we prayerfully lift up our hearts filled with serene confidence and devotion. Mindful of your unbounded and helpful charity to all levels of society and also of your meekness and humility of heart, we offer our petitions to you. Pour out upon our families the precious gifts of your solicitous and generous intercession; show to the people of every race and every color the paths of unity and of justice; implore from our Father in heaven the coming of his kingdom, so that through mutual benevolence in God men may increase the fruits of grace and merit the rewards of eternal life. Amen.
The Litany of Blessed Martin de Porres
For Private Use Only.
Lord, have mercy,
Christ have mercy on us.
Lord, have mercy. Christ, here us.
Christ, graciously hear us,
God the Father of Heaven,
have mercy on us.
God the Son, Redeemer of the world,
have mercy on us.
God, the Holy Ghost,
have mercy on us.
Holy Trinity, One God,
have mercy on us.
Holy Mary, Queen of the Most Holy Rosary,
Pray for us.
Blessed Martin, ever in the presence of God,
Pray for us.
Blessed Martin, faithful servant of Christ, etc.
Blessed Martin, lover of the Holy Eucharist,
Blessed Martin, devoted to our Blessed Mother,
Blessed Martin, spiritual patron of Americans,
Blessed Martin, raised from the depths to a heavenly mansion,
Blessed Martin, honored son of Saint Dominic,
Blessed Martin, lover of the Most Holy Rosary,
Blessed Martin, apostle of mercy,
Blessed Martin, winged minister of charity,
Blessed Martin, miraculously conveyed to far-distant lands,
Blessed Martin, freed from the barriers of time and space,
Blessed Martin, seeking the conversion of sinners,
Blessed Martin, protector of the tempted and repentant,
Blessed Martin, helper of souls in doubt and darkness,
Blessed Martin, compassionate to the sorrowful and afflicted,
Blessed Martin, consoler of the discouraged and unfortunate,
Blessed Martin, peacemaker in all discords,
Blessed Martin, touched by all suffering,
Blessed Martin, comforter of the sick and dying,
Blessed Martin, angel to hospitals and prisons,
Blessed Martin, worker of miraculous cures,
Blessed Martin, guardian of the homeless child,
Blessed Martin, humbly hiding God-given powers,
Blessed Martin, devoted to holy poverty,
Blessed Martin, model of obedience,
Blessed Martin, lover of heroic penance,
Blessed Martin, strong in self-denial,
Blessed Martin, performing menial tasks with holy ardor,
Blessed Martin, gifted with prophecy,
Blessed Martin, symbol of interracial brotherhood,
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Spare us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Graciously hear us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Have mercy on us.
V. Pray for us, Blessed Martin,
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Let Us Pray.
O God, the exalter of the humble, Who didst make Blessed Martin, Thy confessor, to enter the heavenly Kingdom, grant through his merits and intercession that we may so follow the example of his humility on earth as to deserve to be exalted with him in Heaven, through Christ Our Lord. R. Amen.
Thank you for this. It will be my reading material and prayer guide for the day.
No problem. You have posted some very good insights on this thread. Your user name sounds like you may have Spanish ancestry? Thanks to those holy souls, Ferdinand & Isabella, Columbus, etc., pagan America was brought the light of faith.
I really hope CI can clamp down/delete these race baiting threads.
Blessed Martin de Porres, C.O.P. 1579-1639 A.D.
"Martin's close friends included Saint Rose of Lima and Blessed John Massias... his community called him the "father of charity." They came to respect him so much that they accepted his spiritual direction, even though he was but a lay brother."
"The Spanish viceroy, the count of Chinchón, came to kneel at his deathbed and ask his blessing. Martin was carried to his grave by prelates and noblemen."
Life of Blessed Martin de Porres:
Martin was the illegitimate child of Juan de Porres, a Spanish knight (hidalgo) from Alcantara, and Anna Velasquez, a free Panamanian mullato. Martin inherited his mother's features and dark skin, which upset his father, but John acknowledged his paternity of Martin and his sister while neglecting them. He was left to the care of his mother, and at 12 he was apprenticed to a barber-surgeon, who taught him the healing arts.
Martin's prayer life was rich even in his youth. He had a deep devotion to the Passion of Our Lord, and continually prayed to know what he could do in gratitude for the immense blessings of redemption.
Deciding upon the religious life, at the age of 15, Martin received the habit of the Third Order of Saint Dominic and was admitted to the Dominican Rosary Convent at Lima as a servant. He gave himself the lowliest duties of the house. Finally, his superiors commanded him to accept the habit of a lay brother-- something Martin felt was too great an honor for him--and he was professed.
He served in several offices in the convent--barber, infirmarian, wardrobe keeper--as well as in the garden and as a counsellor. Soon Martin's reputation as a healer spread abroad. He nursed the sick of the city, including plague victims, regardless of race, and helped to found an orphanage and foundling hospital with other charities attached to them. He distributed the convent's alms of food (which he is said sometimes to have increased miraculously) to the poor. Martin especially ministered to the slaves that had been brought from Africa.
He cured as much through prayer as through his knowledge of the medical arts. Among the countless many whose cures were attributed to Martin were a priest dying from a badly infected leg and a young student whose fingers were so damaged in an accident that his hopes for ordination to the priesthood were nearly quenched.
Martin spent his nights in prayer and penance, and he experienced visions and ecstasies. In addition to these gifts, he was endowed with the gift of bi-location; he was seen in Mexico, Central America, and even Japan, by people who knew him well, whereas he had never physically been outside of Lima after entering the order. One time Martin was on a picnic with the novices and they lost track of time. Suddenly realizing that they would be late for their prayers, Martin had them join hands. Before they knew what happened, they found themselves standing in the monastery yard, unable to explain how they traveled several miles in a few seconds.
He passed through locked doors by some means known only to himself and God. In this way he appeared at the bedside of the sick without being asked and always soothed the sick even when he did not completely heal them.
Even sick animals came to Martin for healing. He demonstrated a great control of and care for animals--a care that apparently was inexplicable to the Spaniards--extending his love even to rats and mice, whose scavenging he excused on the grounds that they were hungry. He kept cats and dogs at his sister's house.
Great as his healing faculty was, Martin is probably best remembered for the legend of the rats. It is said that the prior, a reasonable man, objected to the rodents. He ordered Martin to set out poison for them. Martin obeyed, but was very sorry for the rats. He went out into the garden and called softly--and out came the rats. He reprimanded them for their bad habits, telling them about the poison. He further assured them that he would feed them every day in the garden, if they would refrain from annoying the prior. This they agreed upon. He dismissed the rodents and forever after, they never troubled the monastery.
His protege, Juan Vasquez Parra, reveals him to have been a practical and capable man, attending to details ranging from raising his sister's dowry in three days, to teaching Juan how to sow chamomile in the manured hoofprints of cattle. He was eminently practical in his charities, using carefully and methodically the money and goods he collected. He was consulted on delicate matters by persons of consequence in Lima.
Martin's close friends included Saint Rose of Lima and Blessed John Massias, who was a lay-brother at the Dominican priory of Saint Mary Magdalene in Lima... his community called him the "father of charity." They came to respect him so much that they accepted his spiritual direction, even though he was but a lay brother.
He died of quatrain fever at Rosary Convent on November 3. The Spanish viceroy, the count of Chinchón, came to kneel at his deathbed and ask his blessing. Martin was carried to his grave by prelates and noblemen.
Born: December 9, 1579 at Lima, Peru
Died: November 3, 1639 of fever
Beatified: In 1837 he was solemnly beatified by Gregory XVI
Blessed Martin, peacemaker in all discords, Pray for us!
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Just prayer huh? No rational conversation to refute me?
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I was stating in general...over time, French Catholics have made significant advances to civilization, compared to bigoted white *refuse like you.
*As a noun, refuse (pronounced REF-yooss)
You do realise of course that France was home to the whorish fashion of the 1920's; the flapper fashion. Also today and since France had a colonial empire in Africa it is home to a Negro culture and the peoples are also becoming more that way too. Also I am nervous to include the word "white" in regards to Europe because there are obvious racial differences between France, Italy, Germany, etc.
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I was stating in general...over time, French Catholics have made significant advances to civilization, compared to bigoted white *refuse like you.
*As a noun, refuse (pronounced REF-yooss)
You do realise of course that France was home to the whorish fashion of the 1920's; the flapper fashion. Also today and since France had a colonial empire in Africa it is home to a Negro culture and the peoples are also becoming more that way too. Also I am nervous to include the word "white" in regards to Europe because there are obvious racial differences between France, Italy, Germany, etc.
It is preferable to use the term "ethnic", as the genetic differences are actually not as large as you make them out to be. There is one human race. Do not compare the feline family to the human species. That is a false comparison, as the human species is a subcategory of the genus homo, which is a subcategory of the family hominidae.
There is no such thing as a superior "race". It doesn't exist. Scripture does not support the concept of a superior " race", nor does Scripture support the separation of "races", or the concept that combined ethnic backgrounds constitutes an inferior " race".
Flapper fashion was also popular in the United States. It was not an exclusively French notion.
Jazz is an American invention, one that is based off the musical culture of many ethnicities. It is not from Africa exclusively or even primarily. One of the infliluences of Jazz is the music of the Church. Another is the folk music of various nations. Jazz is a cross-cultural genre, enjoyed by people the world over, with Japan and France being two, notable markets.
Most of our culture is not the result of the Germanic "white" people, but from the Greeks, the Italians, the middle East and from an empire based on the African continent: Egypt.
All men of all ethnicities are created by God. He commanded that we spread the Gospel to the four corners of the earth. He never made any claim of racial superiority, not did He instruct His followers to segregate one ethnicity from another.
Those who claim to be superior should look at the parable of the Pharisee and the publican very carefully.
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I was stating in general...over time, French Catholics have made significant advances to civilization, compared to bigoted white *refuse like you.
*As a noun, refuse (pronounced REF-yooss)
You do realise of course that France was home to the whorish fashion of the 1920's; the flapper fashion. Also today and since France had a colonial empire in Africa it is home to a Negro culture and the peoples are also becoming more that way too. Also I am nervous to include the word "white" in regards to Europe because there are obvious racial differences between France, Italy, Germany, etc.
It is preferable to use the term "ethnic", as the genetic differences are actually not as large as you make them out to be. There is one human race. Do not compare the feline family to the human species. That is a false comparison, as the human species is a subcategory of the genus homo, which is a subcategory of the family hominidae.
There is no such thing as a superior "race". It doesn't exist. Scripture does not support the concept of a superior " race", nor does Scripture support the separation of "races", or the concept that combined ethnic backgrounds constitutes an inferior " race".
Flapper fashion was also popular in the United States. It was not an exclusively French notion.
Jazz is an American invention, one that is based off the musical culture of many ethnicities. It is not from Africa exclusively or even primarily. One of the infliluences of Jazz is the music of the Church. Another is the folk music of various nations. Jazz is a cross-cultural genre, enjoyed by people the world over, with Japan and France being two, notable markets.
Most of our culture is not the result of the Germanic "white" people, but from the Greeks, the Italians, the middle East and from an empire based on the African continent: Egypt.
All men of all ethnicities are created by God. He commanded that we spread the Gospel to the four corners of the earth. He never made any claim of racial superiority, not did He instruct His followers to segregate one ethnicity from another.
Those who claim to be superior should look at the parable of the Pharisee and the publican very carefully.
You sure don't hide your biases very well. Just as the bias of your brother being at Pfeifferville overrode everything else in that discussion, your own impure blood overrides all discussion of race. Something about you comes off as very whiny and effeminate.
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I was stating in general...over time, French Catholics have made significant advances to civilization, compared to bigoted white *refuse like you.
*As a noun, refuse (pronounced REF-yooss)
You do realise of course that France was home to the whorish fashion of the 1920's; the flapper fashion. Also today and since France had a colonial empire in Africa it is home to a Negro culture and the peoples are also becoming more that way too. Also I am nervous to include the word "white" in regards to Europe because there are obvious racial differences between France, Italy, Germany, etc.
It is preferable to use the term "ethnic", as the genetic differences are actually not as large as you make them out to be. There is one human race. Do not compare the feline family to the human species. That is a false comparison, as the human species is a subcategory of the genus homo, which is a subcategory of the family hominidae.
There is no such thing as a superior "race". It doesn't exist. Scripture does not support the concept of a superior " race", nor does Scripture support the separation of "races", or the concept that combined ethnic backgrounds constitutes an inferior " race".
Flapper fashion was also popular in the United States. It was not an exclusively French notion.
Jazz is an American invention, one that is based off the musical culture of many ethnicities. It is not from Africa exclusively or even primarily. One of the infliluences of Jazz is the music of the Church. Another is the folk music of various nations. Jazz is a cross-cultural genre, enjoyed by people the world over, with Japan and France being two, notable markets.
Most of our culture is not the result of the Germanic "white" people, but from the Greeks, the Italians, the middle East and from an empire based on the African continent: Egypt.
All men of all ethnicities are created by God. He commanded that we spread the Gospel to the four corners of the earth. He never made any claim of racial superiority, not did He instruct His followers to segregate one ethnicity from another.
Those who claim to be superior should look at the parable of the Pharisee and the publican very carefully.
You sure don't hide your biases very well. Just as the bias of your brother being at Pfeifferville overrode everything else in that discussion, your own impure blood overrides all discussion of race. Something about you comes off as very whiny and effeminate.
OHCA, you are way off base. I am arguing against the claims of superiority of one ethnicity over another. I agree that there are ethnic differences, but I am against the notion of a pure or superior race.
Stay on target.
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I was stating in general...over time, French Catholics have made significant advances to civilization, compared to bigoted white *refuse like you.
*As a noun, refuse (pronounced REF-yooss)
You do realise of course that France was home to the whorish fashion of the 1920's; the flapper fashion. Also today and since France had a colonial empire in Africa it is home to a Negro culture and the peoples are also becoming more that way too. Also I am nervous to include the word "white" in regards to Europe because there are obvious racial differences between France, Italy, Germany, etc.
It is preferable to use the term "ethnic", as the genetic differences are actually not as large as you make them out to be. There is one human race. Do not compare the feline family to the human species. That is a false comparison, as the human species is a subcategory of the genus homo, which is a subcategory of the family hominidae.
There is no such thing as a superior "race". It doesn't exist. Scripture does not support the concept of a superior " race", nor does Scripture support the separation of "races", or the concept that combined ethnic backgrounds constitutes an inferior " race".
Flapper fashion was also popular in the United States. It was not an exclusively French notion.
Jazz is an American invention, one that is based off the musical culture of many ethnicities. It is not from Africa exclusively or even primarily. One of the infliluences of Jazz is the music of the Church. Another is the folk music of various nations. Jazz is a cross-cultural genre, enjoyed by people the world over, with Japan and France being two, notable markets.
Most of our culture is not the result of the Germanic "white" people, but from the Greeks, the Italians, the middle East and from an empire based on the African continent: Egypt.
All men of all ethnicities are created by God. He commanded that we spread the Gospel to the four corners of the earth. He never made any claim of racial superiority, not did He instruct His followers to segregate one ethnicity from another.
Those who claim to be superior should look at the parable of the Pharisee and the publican very carefully.
You sure don't hide your biases very well. Just as the bias of your brother being at Pfeifferville overrode everything else in that discussion, your own impure blood overrides all discussion of race.
The Anti-Catholic OHCA is marching right in line with the Zionist's #1 20th Century Invention [Adolf].
"All who are not of good race in this world are chaff. And all occurrences in world history are only expression of the races’ instinct for self-preservation. What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood...so that our people may mature for the fulfilment of the mission... . Those who are physically and mentally unhealthy and unworthy must not perpetuate their suffering in the body of their children.” (Adolf Hitler in ‘Mein Kampf’)
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It is preferable to use the term "ethnic", as the genetic differences are actually not as large as you make them out to be. There is one human race. Do not compare the feline family to the human species. That is a false comparison, as the human species is a subcategory of the genus homo, which is a subcategory of the family hominidae.
First of all, the godless scientific taxonomical classification has no bearing on the matter.
Secondly, in the case of animal species even minuscule differences may grant a subspecies classification.
Example: the two commonplace turtle species Trachemys Scripta Scripta and Trachemys Scripta Elegans are, according to the boffins, two separate subspecies.
Yet, the only difference among them is the tertiary colour !
They are genetically almost indistinguishable, are co-fertile, reach the same size, average lifespan, etc.
In the case of the fable-like official account of the Galapagos, which allegedly pushed Darwin to formulate his theory, the same birds with absolutely minor variations are classified as different species altogether, not even subspecies.
It is obvious today's taxonomical arrangement is mostly political.
It has been chosen by TPTB that the "out of Afrika" evolutionary hypothesis is the preferable one and that different ethnic supergroups shall not be objectively analysed and classified.
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"Traditional Guy 20", just violated the 2nd Commandment in this thread. Please pass this on to the moderator.
First time I have seen this on a chatboard.
"May the most holy, most sacred most adorable, most mysterious and unutterable Name of God, be praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in heaven, and on earth by the Sacred Heart our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, in the most Holy Sacrament of the altar, and by all God's creatures. Amen."
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"All who are not of good race in this world are chaff. And all occurrences in world history are only expression of the races’ instinct for self-preservation. What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood...so that our people may mature for the fulfilment of the mission... . Those who are physically and mentally unhealthy and unworthy must not perpetuate their suffering in the body of their children.” (Adolf Hitler in ‘Mein Kampf’)
*coughs*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpieza_de_sangre
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"Traditional Guy 20", just violated the 2nd Commandment in this thread. Please pass this on to the moderator.
First time I have seen this on a chatboard.
"May the most holy, most sacred most adorable, most mysterious and unutterable Name of God, be praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in heaven, and on earth by the Sacred Heart our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, in the most Holy Sacrament of the altar, and by all God's creatures. Amen."
How do you know what I said is blasphemy? I think His name is "Jesus." Jeez and you sure are pathetic stooping to something this low to get me banned and gone. That sure smells of desperation to shut me up on your part.
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"Traditional Guy 20", just violated the 2nd Commandment in this thread. Please pass this on to the moderator.
What are you? A third grade little girl, you little tattling fαɢɢօt?
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ManuelChavez said:
It is preferable to use the term "ethnic", as the genetic differences are actually not as large as you make them out to be. There is one human race. Do not compare the feline family to the human species. That is a false comparison, as the human species is a subcategory of the genus homo, which is a subcategory of the family hominidae.
From Traditional Guy 20: God you're like a broken record. There is NOT one human race. There are different races based on intelligence, cultural ability, etc. I don't think anyone except a retard would say that Mozart or Beethoven's music is of similar cultural ability to sub-Saharan Africans.
My Response: If your response isn't directed to God, then your post could be seen as breaking the second commandment.
There are different ethnicities of our one, Human species, based on genetic markers attributed to certain areas of the world. Ethnicity is not determined by intelligence, cultural ability, etc. Race is a loaded term, and is more societal than scientifically based.
Mozart and Beethoven are not a race; they are two individuals of common ethnic origin whose talents are upheld as exemplary. I have not said that the music of the sub-Saharan regions is at the same level as the music of Mozart or Beethoven.
I doubt that you are very familiar with the musical ability of the sub-Saharan peoples, based off what you have written thus far. Don't mock what you clearly do not understand.
Manuel Chaves said: There is no such thing as a superior "race". It doesn't exist. Scripture does not support the concept of a superior " race", nor does Scripture support the separation of "races", or the concept that combined ethnic backgrounds constitutes an inferior " race".
From Traditional Guy 20: You know of course that we do not believe in "Sola Scriptura" right and believe in the discoveries of science that is proven.
My response: Science is not a dogma, and is far from set in stone. Each generation or two has a “new” understanding of the various sciences. What I have written on the Church and Scripture stands; there has never been a dogmatic segregation of the “races”.
What we can see from the Scripture and the Church's teachings are quite the opposite. Ethnic differences do not make one superior or inferior, and there is no “superior race.” The Church has never supported the notion of segregating “races”.
Do not elevate temporal, ephemeral science to the level of the teaching of the Church.
This “science” of races is hardly proven. It should not be used to try to justify declaring one group of people superior and another inferior. People of mixed, ethnic backgrounds are not inferior to supposedly “pure” peoples.
Traditional Guy 20: Yes and America is the worst nation on Earth and has the most rotten culture of dancing, drinking alcohol, and listening to Negrified music.
From Traditional Guy 20: Jazz is primarily African and has other influences yes, but just having an ounce of African music makes it an inferior art form. I also consider African indigenous music as horrible music too.
My response: That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it, even if it is odious and disgusting. However, do not dogmatize your errant and unfounded notions.
This is not a battle you're going to win, especially in regards to music theory and musicology. You clearly do not know music, and, once again, you are entitled to dislike Jazz and its variants, or African music (though this is a broad category, as various parts of Africa have their own styles of music). It doesn't make your opinion a fact, but it does exemplify your rigidity in you thought process, and does expose some of the gaps in your knowledge.
Jazz is an American art form, based off the merger of many cultures, including African. Music is comprised of three parts; melody, harmony and rhythm. Two of the key features of Jazz are syncopation and improvisation. These two are also used my many other types of music, including the Organ works of J.S. Bach.
Jazz is American, though it has taken on the folk flavor of many cultures, and has embraced the techniques of the old world.
From Traditional Guy 20: You would be correct had Egypt been an empire of sub-Saharan but they were in fact an empire of Hamites, from North Africa and Hamites and Semites from the Middle East are in the middle ranks in terms of race, higher than Equatorial Negroes. Greeks haven't done anything of importance since the time of the ancient Greeks. I admit Italians do have more of a creative streak than Germanic peoples as can be seen in the fields of art, literature, science, etc. but Germans also have that migratory will to go out and conquer.
My response: You have an obession with ranking various ethnicities in terms of subjective qualifications.
Each ethnicity has something different to offer. The Catholic Church makes use of all that is good from all cultures and peoples. The Church does not hold any one ethnicity as superior to others. There is only the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church for the one human race, and those within the Church should not waste time arguing about whose culture is “superior”. It will not add one cubit to your stature.
When Christ judges each of us, He will not look at our ethnicity. He will judge our actions. Consider the following story, and rethink your unhealthy obsession with the notions of a “superior race.”
From the Gospel according to Saint Luke: [10] Two men went up into the temple to pray: the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
[11] The Pharisee standing, prayed thus with himself: O God, I give thee thanks that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, as also is this publican. [12] I fast twice in a week: I give tithes of all that I possess. [13] And the publican, standing afar off, would not so much as lift up his eyes towards heaven; but struck his breast, saying: O God, be merciful to me a sinner. [14] I say to you, this man went down into his house justified rather than the other: because every one that exalteth himself, shall be humbled: and he that humbleth himself, shall be exalted.
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Nice avatar there Hugo Chavez...
I refuse to run the truth of race by you again, only to say that if you are from Latin America you'd still be living in stone temples sacrificing animals and humans to your gods had it not been for a superior race. This is already a battle that I have won since there is no comparing African peoples to Germanic peoples. Mozart and Beethoven were both Germanic, which is why I chose them. So since I have shown that Equitorial Negroes are inferior to traditional European culture then it also shows what will happen if the white race has relations with Negroes...i.e. the mulatto bastards will be lower than the higher race and therefore will be easy to command by the Jєωιѕн overseers.
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Nice avatar there Hugo Chavez...
I refuse to run the truth of race by you again, only to say that if you are from Latin America you'd still be living in stone temples sacrificing animals and humans to your gods had it not been for a superior race. This is already a battle that I have won since there is no comparing African peoples to Germanic peoples. Mozart and Beethoven were both Germanic, which is why I chose them. So since I have shown that Equitorial Negroes are inferior to traditional European culture then it also shows what will happen if the white race has relations with Negroes...i.e. the mulatto bastards will be lower than the higher race and therefore will be easy to command by the Jєωιѕн overseers.
I am not Hugo Chavez. The battle I referred to was regarding musicology and music theory.
You have only shown two, talented people who are well known because of their abilities. This does not speak to the superiority of a group over another group.
We also happen to know Mozart and Beethoven because our western culture has highlighted these examples over that of examples from other cultures. That does not prove that Germanic culture is superior, especially since the best of Germanic culture actually came from Rome and Greece. The Germanic people were barbarians compared to the higher Greek and Roman "races". So much for superiority.
If every Germanic man, woman and child was a Mozart or Beethoven, you might have a point, but you do not. Mozart and Beethoven are renowned examples because there are very few in history who had the amount of talent these men possessed.
By using the term "mulatto bastards", you have exposed your own lack of charity. Your notions are far from being Catholic. They are anti-Catholic.
You are indeed the Pharisee who holds himself above the publican.
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...came from Rome and Greece. The Germanic people were barbarians compared to the higher Greek and Roman "races". So much for superiority.
What has Greece done since the Ancient Greeks? As for the Romans I admit the Roman Empire was a superior empire but that empire has been dead since the tribes invaded and in fact was already dead for quite a while. If you look at the Roman Emperors in fact they all have blonde or red hair. Actually by the time the Germanic tribes invaded Rome the Romans were already declining as an empire.
If every Germanic man, woman and child was a Mozart or Beethoven, you might have a point, but you do not. Mozart and Beethoven are renowned examples because there are very few in history who had the amount of talent these men possessed.
Well obviously I believe only those of superior ability and talent will make it through the echelons of society. Unlike a Marxist I am no egalitarian.
By using the term "mulatto bastards", you have exposed your own lack of charity. Your notions are far from being Catholic. They are anti-Catholic.
You are indeed the Pharisee who holds himself above the publican.
*Yawn*
Since we're going to quote Bible verses that mean absolutely nothing in the context used:
"If the Ethiopian can change his skin, or the leopard his spots: you may also do well, when you have learned evil."
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Nice avatar there Hugo Chavez...
I refuse to run the truth of race by you again, only to say that if you are from Latin America you'd still be living in stone temples sacrificing animals and humans to your gods had it not been for a superior race. This is already a battle that I have won since there is no comparing African peoples to Germanic peoples. Mozart and Beethoven were both Germanic, which is why I chose them. So since I have shown that Equitorial Negroes are inferior to traditional European culture then it also shows what will happen if the white race has relations with Negroes...i.e. the mulatto bastards will be lower than the higher race and therefore will be easy to command by the Jєωιѕн overseers.
I am not Hugo Chavez. The battle I referred to was regarding musicology and music theory.
You have only shown two, talented people who are well known because of their abilities. This does not speak to the superiority of a group over another group.
We also happen to know Mozart and Beethoven because our western culture has highlighted these examples over that of examples from other cultures. That does not prove that Germanic culture is superior, especially since the best of Germanic culture actually came from Rome and Greece. The Germanic people were barbarians compared to the higher Greek and Roman "races". So much for superiority.
If every Germanic man, woman and child was a Mozart or Beethoven, you might have a point, but you do not. Mozart and Beethoven are renowned examples because there are very few in history who had the amount of talent these men possessed.
By using the term "mulatto bastards", you have exposed your own lack of charity. Your notions are far from being Catholic. They are anti-Catholic.
You are indeed the Pharisee who holds himself above the publican.
I wonder if you or your brother ranlare even know what the term "anti-Catholic" means as loosely as you throw it around out of context. You sound like a pair of morons.
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... I keep showing your posts are like Swiss cheese. ...
Yeah, you are so wonderful, you are practically a legend in your own time.
I am on the edge of my seat waiting for the next pearls of wisdom you throw to us, the unwashed.
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From the OP:
If you look at Europe today with the massive African and Arab population rolling in it will spell doom since Europeans have no courage anymore to kick out the former subject peoples of their empires.
I've actually heard this week that Sweden is going to expel up to 80,000 migrants.
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I think it is impossible to understand the state of American blacks without studying the early 20th century conflict between Marcus Garvey (a black separatist who promoted independence and a black economy) and W.E.B. du Bois (a tool of powerful Jews who won the conflict, leading blacks into a new slavery of dependency). Such Jews have been false friends of black people for over a century, but in the last two decades more blacks than whites have awakened to the deceits of those Jews.
The response of the 'elite' Jews has been this—they are promoting race wars in the "developed" nations. The "adversaries to all mankind" want all their victims to fight each other over skin color and Bell curves and entitlements while the Jew banksters sit comfortably in their armed and gated enclaves counting the loot they have obtained by their crimes against humanity.
The last thing the 'elite' Jews want is for all of us to awaken, apprehend, prosecute, and punish all crimes against humanity, including economic crimes against humanity, capital crimes (ahem!)—and to repatriate what they have stolen over the centuries.
Prosecute the guilty. Leave the innocent alone.
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I agree with what you are saying Mark but the fact of the matter is that it is the features of people that I don't wish to disappear which is caused by mixing. For instance I know this is going to sound cliche' but I love women with blonde hair. Such a feature is lost as more Germanic women mix with other races like Blacks, Jews, Gypsies, Japanese, Slavs, etc. I can of course have friendships with peoples of different races if they share my values on certain things such as the Japanese or the Arabs but that does not mean I tolerate girls having relations with them. There is a difference between mutual respect and having the same features.
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Nice avatar there Hugo Chavez...
I refuse to run the truth of race by you again, only to say that if you are from Latin America you'd still be living in stone temples sacrificing animals and humans to your gods had it not been for a superior race. This is already a battle that I have won since there is no comparing African peoples to Germanic peoples. Mozart and Beethoven were both Germanic, which is why I chose them. So since I have shown that Equitorial Negroes are inferior to traditional European culture then it also shows what will happen if the white race has relations with Negroes...i.e. the mulatto bastards will be lower than the higher race and therefore will be easy to command by the Jєωιѕн overseers.
I am not Hugo Chavez. The battle I referred to was regarding musicology and music theory.
You have only shown two, talented people who are well known because of their abilities. This does not speak to the superiority of a group over another group.
We also happen to know Mozart and Beethoven because our western culture has highlighted these examples over that of examples from other cultures. That does not prove that Germanic culture is superior, especially since the best of Germanic culture actually came from Rome and Greece. The Germanic people were barbarians compared to the higher Greek and Roman "races". So much for superiority.
If every Germanic man, woman and child was a Mozart or Beethoven, you might have a point, but you do not. Mozart and Beethoven are renowned examples because there are very few in history who had the amount of talent these men possessed.
By using the term "mulatto bastards", you have exposed your own lack of charity. Your notions are far from being Catholic. They are anti-Catholic.
You are indeed the Pharisee who holds himself above the publican.
I wonder if you or your brother ranlare even know what the term "anti-Catholic" means as loosely as you throw it around out of context. You sound like a pair of morons.
You could use a lesson or two on what the Catholic faith teaches about charity towards all. Traditional Guy 20 is espousing a line of thought that has absolutely no connection to the teaching of Holy Mother Church. I am embarrassed at the lot of you for ignoring the chief truths of the faith, to support a line of thinking that only leads to darkness and hatred of those considered less worthy.
There is no master race. There is no superior race. All are sinners, and are in need of God's goodness and mercy. To those who have received more on this earth, more will be demanded of them. You should thank God you live in a well-developed nation, where basic necessities are plentiful. You should beg forgiveness for taking the model of the Pharisee, who praised himself as being superior, as Traditional Guy 20 lauds the white race as being superior.
That is not Catholic. That is of the devil. Those who think themselves superior to others will be humbled at the feet of Our Lord.
Never use the term "mulatto bastard" again.
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ManuelChavez is just another Amerindian who knows nothing of history. He goes on about how great the ancient Egyptians and Greeks were, saying they were even better than Germans, even though they were never Catholic in the times they had a superior civilization than Germans, and even though their civilization 2,000 years ago is nothing compared to German civilization of the last 1,000 plus years. Obviously 2,000 years ago they were more advanced than we Germans were, but we have been consistent in the last 1,100 plus years, whereas those people have done absolutely nothing. Only a fool would say that the pyramids and those Greek pagan temples are greater than all the magnificent German cathedrals, churches, and abbeys, such as the Kölner Dom (Cologne Cathedral), Aachener Dom (Aachen Cathedral), Stephansdom, Stift Melk (Melk Abbey), and so many others. And we cannot forget all the great German saints, composers, inventors, and other figures of Catholic German history, such as the many men who fought against invading Islamic hordes, like Juan de Austria, Ludwig Andreas von Khevenhüller, Gideon Ernst von Laudon, and many more great leaders. Where are all the great Greek and Egyptian saints like Hildegard von Bingen, Heinrich II., Bruno von Köln, Gerdrud die Große (Gertrud the Great), the only female saint with the title 'Great'? Where are all the Egyptians and Greeks like Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Haydn, etc?
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I agree with what you are saying Mark but the fact of the matter is that it is the features of people that I don't wish to disappear which is caused by mixing. For instance I know this is going to sound cliche' but I love women with blonde hair. Such a feature is lost as more Germanic women mix with other races like Blacks, Jews, Gypsies, Japanese, Slavs, etc. I can of course have friendships with peoples of different races if they share my values on certain things such as the Japanese or the Arabs but that does not mean I tolerate girls having relations with them. There is a difference between mutual respect and having the same features.
They are only "features." Physical features won't stop you from going to hell, nor should we cause hatred of other races because a few physical features may change.
What matters most is the heart, and the charity we have within. Not everyone will be genetically perfect, or be well-cultured, or be in the best of health. The world is drenched in sin, disease and death. We are meant for something greater than the world. God made us to know, love and serve Him in this world, so we may be with Him in the next.
If you get caught focusing on the world and the flesh, you will not escape the snares of the devil.
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"Mulatto bastard."
I notice Manuel Chavez you cannot have any rational defense for my response and only blab about how I am racist, evil, etc. which is the usual line of one who knows he has lost the debate. I am also reminded that you told OHCA that he obsesses over the Jews too much which tells me all I need to know about you.
Please tell me Manuel Chavez of how Blacks are NOT inferior to Europeans? I ask yet again.
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I agree with what you are saying Mark but the fact of the matter is that it is the features of people that I don't wish to disappear which is caused by mixing. For instance I know this is going to sound cliche' but I love women with blonde hair. Such a feature is lost as more Germanic women mix with other races like Blacks, Jews, Gypsies, Japanese, Slavs, etc. I can of course have friendships with peoples of different races if they share my values on certain things such as the Japanese or the Arabs but that does not mean I tolerate girls having relations with them. There is a difference between mutual respect and having the same features.
They are only "features." Physical features won't stop you from going to hell, nor should we cause hatred of other races because a few physical features may change.
What matters most is the heart, and the charity we have within. Not everyone will be genetically perfect, or be well-cultured, or be in the best of health. The world is drenched in sin, disease and death. We are meant for something greater than the world. God made us to know, love and serve Him in this world, so we may be with Him in the next.
If you get caught focusing on the world and the flesh, you will not escape the snares of the devil.
You really need to stop writing already. You are a total hypocrite, since you go on about how people shouldn't hate other races, yet you yourself are one of the most hateful people I've encountered. You hate Germans almost as a Jew does. According to you, you should be going to hell then also, for hating Germans.
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They are only "features." Physical features won't stop you from going to hell, nor should we cause hatred of other races because a few physical features may change.
What matters most is the heart, and the charity we have within. Not everyone will be genetically perfect, or be well-cultured, or be in the best of health. The world is drenched in sin, disease and death. We are meant for something greater than the world. God made us to know, love and serve Him in this world, so we may be with Him in the next.
If you get caught focusing on the world and the flesh, you will not escape the snares of the devil.
There are more than features. There is also greater stupidity, sickness and yes the loss of superior features thanks to racial inter-mixture with other races. Oh yes there is also the thought that mulattoes are easy to control by the Jews in their desire to dominate Europe.
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ManuelChavez is just another Amerindian who knows nothing of history. He goes on about how great the ancient Egyptians and Greeks were, saying they were even better than Germans, even though they were never Catholic in the times they had a superior civilization than Germans, and even though their civilization 2,000 years ago is nothing compared to German civilization of the last 1,000 plus years. Obviously 2,000 years ago they were more advanced than we Germans were, but we have been consistent in the last 1,100 plus years, whereas those people have done absolutely nothing. Only a fool would say that the pyramids and those Greek pagan temples are greater than all the magnificent German cathedrals, churches, and abbeys, such as the Kölner Dom (Cologne Cathedral), Aachener Dom (Aachen Cathedral), Stephansdom, Stift Melk (Melk Abbey), and so many others. And we cannot forget all the great German saints, composers, inventors, and other figures of Catholic German history, such as the many men who fought against invading Islamic hordes, like Juan de Austria, Ludwig Andreas von Khevenhüller, Gideon Ernst von Laudon, and many more great leaders. Where are all the great Greek and Egyptian saints like Hildegard von Bingen, Heinrich II., Bruno von Köln, Gerdrud die Große (Gertrud the Great), the only female saint with the title 'Great'? Where are all the Egyptians and Greeks like Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Haydn, etc?
Never assume.
I am a student of history, like my father before me. I never said the Egyptians were better, nor did I say that Germans are inferior. I detest the notion of any "superior race". I said that the Germans owe a great deal to the Romans, the Greeks and the Egyptians. The cradle of civilization came not from the Germans, but from further south.
What the Germans learned is based off these once-great civilizations. That is undeniable.
The Germans have not been perfect, as they embraced the protestant revolt, gave birth to the Lutheran Church, and created one of the worst cars in history, the Isetta.
It is preposterous that you would neglect the great minds of the Greek and Roman world; Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Sappho, Homer, Catullus, Virgil, Ovid, and so many others whose talents and skill can be on par with Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert and others. Do not claim that I am ignorant of history if you know not these names and their achievements.
Those are a few examples of the great non-Catholic names in history. If you want a list of Roman and Greek saints, look no further than the Martyrology, at the first 300 or so years of the Church. These are but a few of the saints produced by these "inferior races."
Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
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I agree with what you are saying Mark but the fact of the matter is that it is the features of people that I don't wish to disappear which is caused by mixing. For instance I know this is going to sound cliche' but I love women with blonde hair. Such a feature is lost as more Germanic women mix with other races like Blacks, Jews, Gypsies, Japanese, Slavs, etc. I can of course have friendships with peoples of different races if they share my values on certain things such as the Japanese or the Arabs but that does not mean I tolerate girls having relations with them. There is a difference between mutual respect and having the same features.
They are only "features." Physical features won't stop you from going to hell, nor should we cause hatred of other races because a few physical features may change.
What matters most is the heart, and the charity we have within. Not everyone will be genetically perfect, or be well-cultured, or be in the best of health. The world is drenched in sin, disease and death. We are meant for something greater than the world. God made us to know, love and serve Him in this world, so we may be with Him in the next.
If you get caught focusing on the world and the flesh, you will not escape the snares of the devil.
You really need to stop writing already. You are a total hypocrite, since you go on about how people shouldn't hate other races, yet you yourself are one of the most hateful people I've encountered. You hate Germans almost as a Jew does. According to you, you should be going to hell then also, for hating Germans.
I never said I hate Germans. I never even alluded to that. Do not put words in my mouth.
I hate the notion of a "superior race". I detest the term "mulatto bastards." As for me and my household, we choose to serve the Lord. Our Lord never declared a "superior race." The Church does not ascribe to the concept of a "superior race."
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I agree with what you are saying Mark but the fact of the matter is that it is the features of people that I don't wish to disappear which is caused by mixing. For instance I know this is going to sound cliche' but I love women with blonde hair. Such a feature is lost as more Germanic women mix with other races like Blacks, Jews, Gypsies, Japanese, Slavs, etc. I can of course have friendships with peoples of different races if they share my values on certain things such as the Japanese or the Arabs but that does not mean I tolerate girls having relations with them. There is a difference between mutual respect and having the same features.
They are only "features." Physical features won't stop you from going to hell, nor should we cause hatred of other races because a few physical features may change.
What matters most is the heart, and the charity we have within. Not everyone will be genetically perfect, or be well-cultured, or be in the best of health. The world is drenched in sin, disease and death. We are meant for something greater than the world. God made us to know, love and serve Him in this world, so we may be with Him in the next.
If you get caught focusing on the world and the flesh, you will not escape the snares of the devil.
You really need to stop writing already. You are a total hypocrite, since you go on about how people shouldn't hate other races, yet you yourself are one of the most hateful people I've encountered. You hate Germans almost as a Jew does. According to you, you should be going to hell then also, for hating Germans.
I never said I hate Germans. I never even alluded to that. Do not put words in my mouth.
I hate the notion of a "superior race". I detest the term "mulatto bastards." As for me and my household, we choose to serve the Lord. Our Lord never declared a "superior race." The Church does not ascribe to the concept of a "superior race."
You say you don't like the notion of a superior race, yet you said Greeks and Romans were superior to Germans. Also, you are culturally inferior.
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I never said I hate Germans. I never even alluded to that. Do not put words in my mouth.
I hate the notion of a "superior race". I detest the term "mulatto bastards." As for me and my household, we choose to serve the Lord. Our Lord never declared a "superior race." The Church does not ascribe to the concept of a "superior race."
Spanish and Portuguese Empires had a long history of using Africans and Indians as slaves, showing who the "master" was. Oh those most holy of empires!
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"Mulatto bastard."
I notice Manuel Chavez you cannot have any rational defense for my response and only blab about how I am racist, evil, etc. which is the usual line of one who knows he has lost the debate. I am also reminded that you told OHCA that he obsesses over the Jews too much which tells me all I need to know about you.
Please tell me Manuel Chavez of how Blacks are NOT inferior to Europeans? I ask yet again.
If someone came up to me and said, "The ancient, albino squirrels of donut island are furrier than the rats of NIMH", I would not have any rational defense. That is because the comment offered is nothing short of crazy. There is no rational dialogue with a man who has no reason, and whose use of logic is twisted by the diabolic.
Go on and blab about the albino squirrels elsewhere. The Catholic Church does not support, endorse or profess your notions of a "superior race." I will follow the Church, not the rantings of a non-Catholic, white supremacist.
God made man. He created man in His image. Christ came, not for the "superior race," but for all mankind. He was born, not of the "superior" Germanic tribes, but of a humble, Hebrew Virgin. Would you go to Our Lord and tell Him He is part of an "inferior race", that He is a "mulatto bastard"?
"Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me."
Above all, charity.
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Anyway, back to the original post, this little mestizo should declare once and for all how Negroes are superior to Germans. If they are superior, then only in rape, murder, theft, home invasions, child abandonment, destroying their surroundings, racial pollution, and things in that field.
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If someone came up to me and said, "The ancient, albino squirrels of donut island are furrier than the rats of NIMH", I would not have any rational defense. That is because the comment offered is nothing short of crazy. There is no rational dialogue with a man who has no reason, and whose use of logic is twisted by the diabolic.
Oh what a shocker that you have nothing except attack and no rational conversation to refute me.
Go on and blab about the albino squirrels elsewhere. The Catholic Church does not support, endorse or profess your notions of a "superior race." I will follow the Church, not the rantings of a non-Catholic, white supremacist.
*coughs*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleanliness_of_blood
God made man. He created man in His image. Christ came, not for the "superior race," but for all mankind. He was born, not of the "superior" Germanic tribes, but of a humble, Hebrew Virgin. Would you go to Our Lord and tell Him He is part of an "inferior race", that He is a "mulatto bastard"?
Christ was not of an inferior race therefore he was not inferior. He was not an African/White Racial Mix therefore he was no mulatto.
"Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me."
Above all, charity.
Since we're throwing useless Bible verses here you go: "If the Ethiopian can change his skin, or the leopard his spots: you may also do well, when you have learned evil."
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ManuelChavez is just another Amerindian who knows nothing of history. He goes on about how great the ancient Egyptians and Greeks were, saying they were even better than Germans, even though they were never Catholic in the times they had a superior civilization than Germans, and even though their civilization 2,000 years ago is nothing compared to German civilization of the last 1,000 plus years. Obviously 2,000 years ago they were more advanced than we Germans were, but we have been consistent in the last 1,100 plus years, whereas those people have done absolutely nothing. Only a fool would say that the pyramids and those Greek pagan temples are greater than all the magnificent German cathedrals, churches, and abbeys, such as the Kölner Dom (Cologne Cathedral), Aachener Dom (Aachen Cathedral), Stephansdom, Stift Melk (Melk Abbey), and so many others. And we cannot forget all the great German saints, composers, inventors, and other figures of Catholic German history, such as the many men who fought against invading Islamic hordes, like Juan de Austria, Ludwig Andreas von Khevenhüller, Gideon Ernst von Laudon, and many more great leaders. Where are all the great Greek and Egyptian saints like Hildegard von Bingen, Heinrich II., Bruno von Köln, Gerdrud die Große (Gertrud the Great), the only female saint with the title 'Great'? Where are all the Egyptians and Greeks like Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Haydn, etc?
Never assume.
I am a student of history, like my father before me. I never said the Egyptians were better, nor did I say that Germans are inferior. I detest the notion of any "superior race". I said that the Germans owe a great deal to the Romans, the Greeks and the Egyptians. The cradle of civilization came not from the Germans, but from further south.
What the Germans learned is based off these once-great civilizations. That is undeniable.
The Germans have not been perfect, as they embraced the protestant revolt, gave birth to the Lutheran Church, and created one of the worst cars in history, the Isetta.
The name of this little African import escapes me...
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From Traditional Guy 20: Oh what a shocker that you have nothing except attack and no rational conversation to refute me.
My response: How can one answer the rantings of a lunatic?
From Traditional Guy 20: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleanliness_of_blood
My response: That is not an infallible teaching of the Church. It was also not a test of "superiority of blood", but an attempt to stem any infiltration of false converts into the Church. This was not a universal Church practice, and is limited to a specific period and place.
From Traditional Guy 20: Christ was not of an inferior race therefore he was not inferior. He was not an African/White Racial Mix therefore he was no mulatto.
My response: He was not white, nor was He from the Germanic tribes you hold up so highly.
"Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me."
Above all, charity.
From Traditional Guy 20: Since we're throwing useless Bible verses here you go: "If the Ethiopian can change his skin, or the leopard his spots: you may also do well, when you have learned evil." [/quote]
It seems that is the only Bible verse you know. It does not in any way support your notions of racial superiority. It was a warning to the Jews; from the Douay-Rheims: Under the figure of a linen girdle is foretold the destruction of the Jews. Their obstinacy in sin brings all miseries upon them.
I do know of another selection of the Scriptures which may be applied here:
[29] But he willing to justify himself, said to Jesus: And who is my neighbour? [30] And Jesus answering, said: A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among robbers, who also stripped him, and having wounded him went away, leaving him half dead.
[31] And it chanced, that a certain priest went down the same way: and seeing him, passed by. [32] In like manner also a Levite, when he was near the place and saw him, passed by. [33] But a certain Samaritan being on his journey, came near him; and seeing him, was moved with compassion. [34] And going up to him, bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine: and setting him upon his own beast, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. [35] And the next day he took out two pence, and gave to the host, and said: Take care of him; and whatsoever thou shalt spend over and above, I, at my return, will repay thee.
[36] Which of these three, in thy opinion, was neighbour to him that fell among the robbers? [37] But he said: He that shewed mercy to him. And Jesus said to him: Go, and do thou in like manner.
Our Lord made no distinction of race or ethnicity. He came for His sheep. It is meaningless for the sheep to argue among themselves as to who may have the best wool, or the most pure, if their hearts are far from the Shepherd.
I will leave you with this:
[9] When therefore they were come, that came about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. [10] But when the first also came, they thought that they should receive more: and they also received every man a penny.
[11] And receiving it they murmured against the master of the house, [12] Saying: These last have worked but one hour, and thou hast made them equal to us, that have borne the burden of the day and the heats. [13] But he answering said to one of them: Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst thou not agree with me for a penny? [14] Take what is thine, and go thy way: I will also give to this last even as to thee. [15] Or, is it not lawful for me to do what I will? is thy eye evil, because I am good?
[16] So shall the last be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.
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Our Lord made no distinction of race or ethnicity. He came for His sheep. It is meaningless for the sheep to argue among themselves as to who may have the best wool, or the most pure, if their hearts are far from the Shepherd.
That's right. And that includes nationality as well.
Question for TradGuy20: which sub-race is Christ? Hint: He belonged to the House of David.
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Nice avatar there Hugo Chavez...
I refuse to run the truth of race by you again, only to say that if you are from Latin America you'd still be living in stone temples sacrificing animals and humans to your gods had it not been for a superior race. This is already a battle that I have won since there is no comparing African peoples to Germanic peoples. Mozart and Beethoven were both Germanic, which is why I chose them. So since I have shown that Equitorial Negroes are inferior to traditional European culture then it also shows what will happen if the white race has relations with Negroes...i.e. the mulatto bastards will be lower than the higher race and therefore will be easy to command by the Jєωιѕн overseers.
He who exalts himself will be humbled.
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There is story about twin sisters. They come from a wealthy family. Everything is provided for them. One sister is beautiful and has a great talent as a singer. The other sister is plain and has no talent whatsoever. The talented sister is loved by all but she becomes very vain. The plain sister is very generous. The plain sister is to be married but she decides to become a nun. She gives up a life of comfort. The talented sister gets married to a very wealthy man. She becomes a very famous singer. The plain sister just lives her life as a nun. The two sisters end up dying the same day. The moral is that even though God loved the talented sister more by giving her great gifts. The talented sister ended up not being saved because she did not love God enough. She only loved herself. She became very vain and corrupted. The plain sister won Gods love. She sacrificed her few talents for his sake.
A few things I take from this very basic children's story:
1. God does not favor equality in creation
2. Having more talent alone does not secure a place for us in heaven
3. Everything we have is owed to God
Why do I think this story applies here? Well to show that God does grant certain inequalities in people. We're equal in the sense that we're humans with a soul and can be saved. But we also have accidental inequalities that we can't deny. The downside of being more talented is it really means nothing to our salvation. You're just going to have to work that much harder for it. We see it today. All these highly intelligent people are atheists or at least that's what the studies on IQ suggests.