Hello all, I was think about sponsoring a conference given by the Kolbe Center for Creation http://kolbecenter.org but first I would like to see how much interest there would be.Hoping that you can reserve a front row seat for Fr. Paul Robinson. Now if we can just get someone to buy him a round trip ticket from Australia to get there. If he can't make it, perhaps you could set him up for a video conference. He could be the nominal dissenter. :)
Would those of you that would be interested in attending a conference by their speakers be willing to travel to Kansas for the conference? Most likely a 4 to 6 hour conference, fees will be most likely $5 to $20 depending on what it take to cover the expenses.
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Kolbe Center for Creation will have seminar in Saint Mary's, Kansas:
March 22: 6:30 PM to 8:00 PM
March 23: 10 AM to 5 PM
at the Armory building in St. Marys, KS
Admission free, but donations suggested (to help cover costs)
A detailed scheduled will be available soon.
It doesn't show on their website yet.True, but this is not hosted by the SSPX, it is one Saint Mary's resident that has made arraignments with the Kolbe Center. More details will follow in the coming weeks
The Institute of Christ the King hosted the Kolbe Center for a seminar last year, but with the SSPX selling and promoting Fr. Robinson's The Realist Guide to Science and Religion, it looks like it will be "long ages" before the SSPX will ever host them.
True, but this is not hosted by the SSPX, it is one Saint Mary's resident that has made arraignments with the Kolbe Center. More details will follow in the coming weeks
* * * UPDATE * * *
Kolbe Center for Creation will have seminar in Saint Mary's, Kansas:
March 22: 6:30 PM to 8:00 PM
March 23: 10 AM to 5 PM
at the Armory building in St. Marys, KS
Admission free, but donations suggested (to help cover costs)
I just received a personal confirmation from the Kolbe Center that the above information is accurate.I mentioned this in another thread, but thought it might be useful to mention it here too. Perhaps you all are already aware of this, but if not I'm pasting it here:
I sure hope maximum publicity can be given for this event. It could not have been in a better locale in the entire United States! I hope KC goes for the jugular in bringing Fr. Robinson's book to the forefront of their presentation or at least makes plenty of reference to it.
Woops! that should read "arrangements" NOT "arguments", hopefully there will be no rude out bursts or arguments although civilized debates are allowed.
For those needing a place to stay, I would recommend this one: https://www.wamegoinn.com/
Also, if you are planning to come please let Hugh Owens know so as to plan seating arguments and food availability: http://kolbecenter.org/contact-us/
Thank you!
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I certainly hope this book which is featured for sale on the Kolbe Center website makes a strong appearance at the seminar:Yes, I am sure that "progressive creationism" will be addressed along with many of the errors that proceed form it.
Scientific Heresies and Their Effect on the Church provides a detailed and comprehensive rebuttal to the scientific, theological and exegetical views held by Fr. Paul Robinson, including his views on: The Big Bang; long-ages for the Universe and Earth; progressive creationism; heliocentrism; a local Noachic flood; and current views on radiometry and sedimentology. 575 pages.
UPDATE: Schedule up, see here: http://kolbecenter.org/?post_type=tribe_events (http://kolbecenter.org/?post_type=tribe_events)Creation, Evolution and the Crisis ofFaith
Will this be videotaped for viewing via the Kolbe Center website and or youtube?I do not know, but I hope someone will record it.
I do not know, but I hope someone will record it.Thanks for the response Mr. G. I am going to contact the Kolbe Center to inquire about this while at the same time encouraging them to record it themselves if at all possible.
Thanks for the response Mr. G. I am going to contact the Kolbe Center to inquire about this while at the same time encouraging them to record it themselves if at all possible.
It is interesting to note that the SSPX claims not to takes sides yet they sensor Fr. Rusak's criticism but allows Fr. Robinson free reign.Yes, quite interesting indeed!
Many years ago I looked up a Catholic encyclopedia to read what it said about Noah's flood. It suggested it was a local flood in keeping with the Galilean reformation. As we now know, from 1835 when popes conceded to a new heliocentrism, that was the end to the Church's responsibility to protect the flock from FALSE PHILOSOPHY. From the moment they conceded to human reasoning over faith (the 1616 decree defining a fixed sun formal heresy) they were scared to death of making another 'SUCH ERROR IN FAITH AND SCIENCE.' Accordingly, they not only allowed every evolutionary theory right back to a big Bang to be believed by the flock, but they believed in these absurdities right to the top of the Rome.True, the idea that the Flood was local goes against simple logic. If the flood was local and yet covered the mountains, then what was holding the water back to prevent the water from reaching beyond the local region? God would need to have a wall (higher than the mountains) around the region and then fill that with water like a big tub.
I bet few knew that Darwin's On the Origins of Species that came out in 1859, 24 years AFTER the pro-heliocentric hoax, was NEVER PUT ON THE INDEX.
But a local flood makes a joke out of Genesis and Moses's story of this huge Ark taking years to build when all Noah had to do was to take his family on a year's holiday outside that local area. As for filling it with all those creatures and birds, well that too had to be another stupid thing to do if it was only a local flood. Such a flood suggests humans outside the area could have survived, so why did Moses tell us there were only 8 humans left after it?
And what about the theology built upon the Ark? It represents the Catholic Church, only through which one can be saved. Gee, the red Indians and Buddists must have been laughing reading that story.
Now it is all very well asserting a local flood, but what about all the what abouts. Does Robinson tell us his new theology?
Sure its no wonder Catholicism has become humanism today in so many ways.
* * * Do not forget, this March 22 and 23 the Kolbe Center will have a seminar at the Armory Building in Saint Mary's, Kansas * * *
Although the seminar had a low attendance, ranging about 20 to 36 people per conference, depending on the time of day; it was greatly received and most if not all were impressed to various degrees. One think worth noted that I think is very important to consider, is that for the first time ever ALL the local Trad-groups were represented. We had SSPX, FSSP, SAJM, Fr. Pfeiffer followers, and Fr. Hewko followers. (If there was any sedevacantsit, I was not aware).
When have you seen all the "waring clans" come together in agreement? I think this may have been the first time since 2013 that some of these parishioners have all been together in the same building.
I think all were edified by Edward from Uganda, to see the love of God so strong in a man dedicating his life to God traveling all over Africa, converting Muslims and making other converts. He is just now learning about the Latin Mass. I may say more about this later.
It was agreed that there needs to be another seminar, with more promotion. The FSSP said they will actively promote it this time, let us pray that the various Resistance groups and the SSPX will promote it also.
Thanks much or your timely report Mr. G.1. I saw one lady record a portion of one conference, I ask if she recorded others.
Do you know if any audio and or visual recording was taken and if so whether it will be made available to the public?
Do you know if there was any cleric in attendance and if so can you provide any details?
Finally, do you know if there was any mention by any of the speakers of Fr. Robinson's notorious book and Robert Sungenis' responsive book to it?