How to answer their arguments in favor of modern womanhood? they say that modern women are better wives because:
 1-they don't have to marry for money. So their love is more sincere.

They still do marry for money though, only for more money  There is a sincerity in dependency, in giving oneself to depend on someone else.

2-they don't have to marry in order to physical realtionships. So their marriage is not for s**.

Again, that's not the truth.  Because of their "experience" it is more about that relation, or much less.  Someone "passed the test" (poor man) or he'll "have to do" (poor sap)

 

3-They don't want kids so they don't look at a man as a ''means'' to have babies.

Except they do marry for babies.  In fact, it's more about babies.  The husband is not the means to a family life, but to the objective of having a man to give money to her baby.  She will get the money regardless of whether she keeps her vows or not.  So practically speaking its about using the husband for a baby.

 

 4-they don't have to marry in order to enjoy social security and independence.

True, they get the benefits of marriage without having to pay any obligations.  They live selfishly and irresponsibly.

So far they are led to believe that modern women want  their husbands for the husband's own sake.

No, the husband is still expected to perform all the old roles.  Only she can get rid of him if she wants, and there's little pressure on her to choose and little more to keep her commitments.

 

They marry because they want so not because of it's social, emotional, financial, physical benefits. So there is more ''purity of intention'' in marriages by modern ladies.

That is patently false.

It is also a good reminder for tele to know that male feminists are more zealous that the female ones.

Men are generally more logical, but they are probably more misguided.

Female feminists are motivated not by principle but by unalloyed wickedness.

They are like witches.

 
 1-they don't have to marry for money. So their love is more sincere.

1.) They still likely marry for financial security. Many career women are motivated by money/materialism in the first place. I don't see any trend of career women marrying the under-employed.  

A woman  preferring a traditional gender role would be less motivated by money because accuмulation of wealth and material things are less important.  Traditional womanhood is based on the principles of keeping the home, helping the husband and raising the children.  How many of these women own designer handbags or go to the country club? If a woman placed great value on such things, she would certainly not be motivated to become a homemaker.

 2-they don't have to marry in order to physical realtionships. So their marriage is not for s**.

2.) Modern women likely get to a point where they realize they want the best of both the feminist world and the traditional life.  They might decide they want to experience a wedding, (notice how the emphasis is usually on planning a wedding and not planning a marriage) the clock may be ticking on their fertility and a monogamous relationship will allow them to try for a child and only have to do half the work of childcare, split with modern husband.

A traditionally minded women marries to raise a family and build her house into a  home.  These women would understand that martial intimacy is for procreation, so to suggest they marry just for the intimacy is silly, because the intimacy is connected to bearing children.

 

3-They don't want kids so they don't look at a man as a ''means'' to have babies.

3.) Many modern women still want at least one child. God's design for woman's biology is still fighting strong against the culture of self-sterilizing. They want the experience (just a softened version of it) so they marry to have the child. They place him/her in daycare so their career is not disrupted and then still only have half the duties of childcare.  It is also becoming popular for women to marry a man who will stay at home and be nanny for a period of time. "Stay at home Dads." How convenient, now she can use him for free child care and further emasculate him by holding this status against him to say he doesn't contribute enough because men generally will not be able to excel at domestic tasks as well, and men care for children differently.

If they don't want children, why marry? And what happens if all women stop wanting children? Is that good for society?

Truly traditional women would not looking for a means to have babies. Yes, they want to grow families which isn't possible without the man, but the man's role is more than that. The woman should want a defender and leader for her family. She recognizes this is necessary for having children.  She wants to give him beautiful babies because he will consider them a blessing not a burden.


   

4-they don't have to marry in order to enjoy social security and independence.
  So far they are led to believe that modern women want  their husbands for the husband's own sake. They marry because they want so not because of it's social, emotional, financial, physical benefits. So there is more ''purity of intention'' in marriages by modern ladies.

 4.) If the modern woman's intentions were so pure, and she doesn't have to marry, why is she marrying? If a modern women gets married, there is some motivation that isn't just love. Modernists believe marriage is just a piece of paper, so if they marry, there is a reason.
If the term "wife"is being used in place of girlfriend (and the couple isn't married, like many modern couples are not) then she is keeping this status so she does not have to commit or because she won't give up her independent life away from the man.  Why would that be appealing?

A traditional women is happily willing to give up her independence and  defer her security, which requires a great level of trust. If a wife accepts marriage it is because she wants  to take on the calling as "help meet" to her husband.  This woman is ready to dedicate her life to serving the lord and serving her family.  That level of submission shows more purity of love and commitment than any other arrangement I could think of.

1-they don't have to marry for money. So their love is more
sincere.

A woman who says that she isn't marrying for money is already operating in a mindset that is antithetical to the Christian conception of marriage.  Marriage is a social construct, not an emotional one.  Its purpose is not to practice emotional or physical intimacy for its own sake, but to provide a religiously, morally and financially stable family in which to beget children.  If a woman says that she is not marrying for money, she is either lying, completely naïve to the material requirements of survival, or so financially independent that her conception of her husband as the sustainer of the household would be destroyed, and her respect for his temporal dominion over the household will be non-existent.

2-they don't have to marry in order to physical relationships. So their marriage is not for sex.

Which would technically be permissible if their inclination was toward chastity.  Detachment from the flesh is a wonderful virtue but, if such detachment is so easy, then she should consider a religious life rather than the married lay state, which rightly utilizes the sɛҳuąƖ appetite for fecundity.  That is not, however, their meaning.  What they are essentially saying is that they can fornicate without consequence already, get the milk for free so to speak, so they believe that bothering to buy the cow should validate their perverse notion of marriage.

3-They don't want kids so they don't look at a man as a ''means'' to have babies.

A woman who marries with the intention of having a childless union is like a doctor who enters the profession with the intention never to heal a single hurt.  The decimation of true maternity, that holy fount from which all kindness and compassion and patience and self-worth is instilled in the human creature, is the single greatest cause of the vanity of speech and dress, crassness of comportment, and the replacement of Christian self-love, whose fruit is humility and reconciliation with God, with the sensual depravity required to numb the festering wound upon the souls of so many

   4-they don't have to marry in order to enjoy social security and independence.
  So far they are led to believe that modern women want  their husbands for the husband's own sake. They marry because they want so not because of it's social, emotional, financial, physical benefits. So there is more ''purity of intention'' in marriages by modern ladies.

There is nothing pure in their intentions.  By their description, they seek a roommate with whom they can fornicate on a whim, simply to avoid whatever meager social stigma still remains for such behavior.

It is also a good reminder for tele to know that male feminists are more zealous that the female ones.

Male feminists are those that have been so effected by the feminist perversion of gender roles that they either have been emasculated to the point of quasi-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity or their self-worth has been so decimated that their only perceived value is as a self-ambulatory phallus.

Stevus, I think you're underestimating the extent to being misguided liberals plays into men having such values.

Corrupt men who don't care about morality don't feel any need to justify their behavior with feminist ideology.  They can recognize the harm feminism causes, they just don't care and take advantage of the situation.

Whereas ideological feminist males are probably thinking of women in their life and trying to justify the behavior of those women.

Rationalization is the art of corrupt women.  Men don't typically rationalize evil behavior, they just do it.

I imagine men would rationalize a lot more if it got them sympathy.

Men who transgress certain boundaries know the penalties are forthcoming, and so they form corrupt alliances to avoid punishment.

Women, on the other hand, rely on trying to create sympathy.  This is why rationalization is critical for them.

They think it will help them "score" women. Wrongly, because feminists like brute jerks.