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Offline Dylan

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The Real Origin of the Jєωs
« on: February 28, 2009, 04:42:56 PM »
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    The Real Origin of the Jєωs
    « Reply #1 on: February 28, 2009, 04:57:47 PM »
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  • "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    The Real Origin of the Jєωs
    « Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 07:06:10 PM »
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  • It is not relevant who today's judaics are decended from. At any rate, the Khazar story is speculative

    http://www.theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3105&start=0
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 10:20:03 PM »
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  • It is the Spiritual Sons of Abraham that are important now-- those that accept the Primacy of St Peter as defined in 1870.

    Acc to Fr Butler's book on the Vatican Council, this was the last Infallible Declaration to come from Rome
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 10:48:19 PM »
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  • Dylan, that's a good summary.  I have been pondering this notion of "identity" for quite some time now.  What are your thoughts on the Fathers' use of the term "Jєω" in reference to a particular man or group of men, especially in light of the doctrine found in Apoc. 2:9; 3:9 which teaches that those men of ancient Israel who rejected the Messiah were "Jєωs falsely so-called"?  Also, how do you think you would relate the information above with the notion of a general conversion of Jєωs near the end of time?  My opinion is that these men who call themselves "Jєωs" have become what the term "Gentile" used to signify.  They have become simply part of the nations and as such to ascribe any theological or prophetical significance to them would be erroneous and offensive to the work of Christ.  

    The one element which actually defines these men is sadly their hatred for the supernatural Messiah; Thus, according to God, they have become the "ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan."  It is this fact alone which can account for the general attitude of the Fathers with respect to the Jєωs.  That is why pandering to their complaints and mitigating doctrine is so painful to witness -- it is aquiescing, even if ever so slightly, to the collective Anti-Christ.          


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    « Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 09:51:24 AM »
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    « Reply #6 on: March 04, 2009, 04:18:59 PM »
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  • Bump for Dylan.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 04, 2009, 06:33:04 PM »
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  • Here are some articles I found online that are pretty interesting:

    Jesus Was Not a Jєω

    Thank God My Savior Was Not A Jєω!

    Are the Jєωs really Israelites?

    The Edomite "Counterfeit Jєωs"

    Ishmael, Edom, and Israel

    (Most, if not all, of these sites are protestant, thus they might contain unorthodox theology, however they do contain excellent historical information regarding the Jєωs.)


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    « Reply #8 on: March 04, 2009, 06:47:47 PM »
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  • While there may be some truths in Christian Identity, it is a waste of time because it doesn't matter any more who the Judaics or Israelites were.

    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #9 on: March 04, 2009, 07:22:31 PM »
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  • Good article Dylan!  :applause:

    But I agree with roscoe. It doesn't make much difference weather they are genetically Israelites or not since pretty much anyone, (regardless of his nationality), falls into the category of "Jєω" since they all are of a demonic and anti-christ faith and philosophy.
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


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    « Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 03:20:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Samurai
    Good article Dylan!  :applause:

    But I agree with roscoe. It doesn't make much difference weather they are genetically Israelites or not since pretty much anyone, (regardless of his nationality), falls into the category of "Jєω" since they all are of a demonic and anti-christ faith and philosophy.

    I agree, for us, it isn't important. But, the Jєωs like to deceive people (particularly the foolish Evangelicals) into thinking that they are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and "God's Chosen", so it is important to expose them for who they actually are.


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    « Reply #11 on: March 06, 2009, 12:46:08 PM »
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    It is not relevant who today's judaics are decended from. At any rate, the Khazar story is speculative

    http://www.theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3105&start=0


    Koestler was a zionista-- I do not trust his book ( which I read yrs ago)
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #12 on: March 07, 2009, 09:09:58 AM »
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  • This book is very revealing...if possible read the whole book. Chapter 2 is about Russia & the khazars.

    John Beaty
    The author of The Iron Curtain Over America
    has written, or collaborated on, a dozen books. His texts have been used in more than seven hundred colleges and universities, and his historical novel, Swords in the Dawn, published originally in New York, had London and Australian editions, and was adopted for state-wide use in the public schools of Texas.
    His education (M.A., University of Virginia; Ph.D., Columbia University; post-graduate study, University of Montpellier, France), his travel in Europe and Asia, and his five years with the Military Intelligence Service in World War II rounded out the background for the reading and research (1946-1951) which resulted in The Iron Curtain Over America.

    http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/106746.shtml


    Israel's surprising best seller contradicts founding ideology
    Jonathan Cook, The Electronic Intifada, 8 October 2008
    Centuries later, the people of the Khazar kingdom in what is today south Russia, would convert en masse to Judaism, becoming the genesis of the αѕнкenαzι Jєωs of central and eastern Europe.

    Sand pointed to the strange state of denial in which most Israelis live, noting that papers offered extensive coverage recently to the discovery of the capital of the Khazar kingdom next to the Caspian Sea.

    Ynet, the website of Israel's most popular newspaper, Yedioth Ahronoth, headlined the story: "Russian archaeologists find long-lost Jєωιѕн capital." And yet none of the papers, he added, had considered the significance of this find to standard accounts of Jєωιѕн history.

    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9884.shtml

    Jєωιѕн city feared by Stalin is rediscovered By Ben Leach Last Updated: 10:10AM BST 24 Sep 2008

    The city, Itil, was the capital of the Khazars, a powerful nation that adopted Judaism as its official religion more than 1,000 years ago, only to disappear, leaving little trace of its culture.
    One of the archeologists, Dmitry Vasilyev, said: "This is a hugely important discovery. We can now shed light on one of the most intriguing mysteries of that period - how the Khazars actually lived.

    "We know very little about the Khazars - about their traditions, their funerary rites, their culture."
    At their height, the Khazars, a semi-nomadic Turkic people, controlled much of what is now southern Russia, western Kazakhstan, eastern Ukraine, Azerbaijan and large parts of Russia's North Caucasus region.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3072167/Jєωιѕн-city-feared-by-Stalin-is-rediscovered.html