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OK, the Earth is orbiting the barycenter, and the barycenter is within the diameter of the Sun,
so for simplicity we say that the Earth is orbiting the Sun.  I repeat, the barycenter is within
the diameter of the Sun.  

And that would be wrong.  No, the barycenter is not always within the diameter of the sun.  Within the closed context of the solar system, and assuming Newtonian physics, both the sun and the earth orbit the barycenter.

In that event, then, how would one explain the speed of, say, Neptune's revolution?  Only other explanation is that they are not actually millions of miles away ... as we have been led to believe.  Unless you have something else?

The Earthmovers often use the speeds this or that would have to go at if geocentrism was true. They have no problem with the Earth spinning at 1,000mph or flying through space at 72,000 mph, faster than the speed of a bullet.

I do not think many would bother trying to come to terms with the problem of Geo/Helio if the subject was not connected with the credibility of divine guidance in the Catholic Church. I know my interest in the subject goes back to when I was a kid and I could never come to terms with my divinely guided Church getting it wrong in 1616 and 1633. Once is enough to show no such divine guidance is there.

Many years later when told by Paul Ellwanger in 1990 that heliocentrism was never proven I could not understand why the Church never corrected this anti-Catholic history. Now i know why, and that is almost as shocking as when it looked like the Church was wrong in 1616.

What I am saying is that my geocentrism belongs to God, not the limits of science. Pope Urban VIII told Galileo not to limit God to mere human reasoning, that he could have designed the universe to work whatever way He willed it. In other words, the supposed speeds necessary for the universe to turn every day, is willed by God and He is omnipotent. When I hear the Earthmovers challenging God's ability to do this or that, I know where the truth lies.

But here is another interesting point made by a man many moons ago. Compare a swinging door to a swinging universe. Does the outside of that door travel at a greater speed than the inner part? Both get there at exactly the same time. Can a door travel at different speeds? Now if the universe is turning at 1,000mph at the Equator, a speed accepted by the helioers, and the rest of the universal door moves in line with it, does the universe move at different speeds?

Finally, revolving doors, nothing to do with the subject of the Dimond Brothers. I heard a discussion on them the other day. They were invented to keep heat in a building. Interesting, yes? 

How dare you post this video with the cover picture being a blasphemous mockery of Sacred Scripture?

Geocentrists, according to this person making this video, and indeed by anyone like Apollo who puts it up, are 'retards,' people who have not the ability to follow progress or simply those who indulge in 'horse shit.' Sine 1741, these same insults have been aimed at Catholics who put their faith in the Scriptures and the Church's teaching that tells us God's revelations cannot be in error.

I watched this video for a moment or two until it got to Kepler and his ellipses, his two 'laws' based on them and Newton's laws that are based of Kepler's ellipses.

Our friend in the video obviously never heard of Domineco Cassini (1625-1712) who falsified Kepler's COMPROMISE CALCULATIONS. Indeed when astronomers searched for planets on Kepler and Newton's elliptical orbits they went missing every so often. That is why Newton had to invent another theory, 'perturbations.' Now two bodies attracting one another would be easy to calculate. But in a solar system with seven bodies all attracting one another as they move relative to each other, the idea that one could predict perturbations has to be a joke.

With Cassini's ovals, each body moves at a constant speed, and can always be found where they are supposed to be.

So, that is why I stopped looking at this video. I presumed it went on to use Newton's theory as its gospel and I don't have the time to waste. Neither geocentrism nor heliocentrism can be proven, that is the current position of MODERN PHYSICS. If the video's bull claimed 'proof' for heliocentrism, or if it scientifically falsified geocentrism, then every physicist of the 20thn century has got it wrong too.

There you go again, after the Church twice confirmed the 1616 decree as irreversible in 1633 and 1820, you still tell us like a good Protestant they all got it wrong because the pope did not say it was infallible from the roof of St Peters. 'He didn't even sign it,' you and others say, ignorant of the fact that no pope of the time signed decrees of the Holy Office. As Prefect of the Holy Office it was taken for granted any such decree had to have the pope's approval.

The question is, however, whether either of them condemned the doctrine ex cathedra. This, it is clear, they never did. As to the decree of 1616, we have seen that it was issued by the Congregation of the Index, which can raise no difficulty in regard of infallibility, this tribunal being absolutely incompetent to make a dogmatic decree. Nor is the case altered by the fact that the pope approved the Congregation's decision in forma communi, that is to say, to the extent needful for the purpose intended, namely to prohibit the circulation of writings which were judged harmful. The pope and his assessors may have been wrong in such a judgment, but this does not alter the character of the pronouncement, or convert it into a decree ex cathedra.
Catholic Encyclopedia: Galileo

Statements approved in forma communi are statements of the Roman Congregation, not papal acts. To make it a properly papal act, it would need to be approved in forma specifica. It would additionally need to meet the requirements of Vatican I to be ex cathedra.

Neither geocentrism nor heliocentrism can be proven, that is the current position of MODERN PHYSICS. If the video's bull claimed 'proof' for heliocentrism, or if it scientifically falsified geocentrism, then every physicist of the 20thn century has got it wrong too.

Particular models can and have been disproven by observation or experiment. Perhaps your model has not, but you haven't presented it.

Geocentrists, according to this person making this video, and indeed by anyone like Apollo who puts it up, are 'retards,' people who have not the ability to follow progress or simply those who indulge in 'horse shit.' Sine 1741, these same insults have been aimed at Catholics who put their faith in the Scriptures and the Church's teaching that tells us God's revelations cannot be in error.

So, that is why I stopped looking at this video. I presumed it went on to use Newton's theory as its gospel and I don't have the time to waste. Neither geocentrism nor heliocentrism can be proven, that is the current position of MODERN PHYSICS. If the video's bull claimed 'proof' for heliocentrism, or if it scientifically falsified geocentrism, then every physicist of the 20thn century has got it wrong too.

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Cassini, please tell me how it gets warmer in the summer and colder in the winder,
how the Sun is "higher" in the summer and "lower" in the winter.
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Does the Sun go "UP" in the universe during summer and "DOWN" in the universe
during winter.  Does the whole universe go "UP" with the Sun, because that's what
we see with telescopes.
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About ALL the scientists in the world.  Do you have a quote from ALL of them?
You must have a lot of paperwork in your files.
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The Earthmovers often use the speeds this or that would have to go at if geocentrism was true. They have no problem with the Earth spinning at 1,000 mph or flying through space at 72,000 mph, faster than the speed of a bullet.

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And you have no problem with Neptune going faster than the speed of light, in your Geocentric model.
Oh I forgot, all of science is a bunch of lies and conspiracy.  Neptune is really closer than they say it is.
But wait, all the scientists say that Heliocentrism has not been proven.  All of science is lies, except for
all the scientists.  Conspiracy theorists and truth tellers, they are both at the same time ??
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What I am saying is that my geocentrism belongs to God, not the limits of science. Pope Urban VIII told Galileo not to limit God to mere human reasoning, that he could have designed the universe to work whatever way He willed it. In other words, the supposed speeds necessary for the universe to turn every day, is willed by God and He is omnipotent. When I hear the Earthmovers challenging God's ability to do this or that, I know where the truth lies.

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What most of the world (Catholics included, even priests) are saying, is that Heliocentrism belongs to God,
and he could have designed the universe to be Heliocentric if He wanted to.  When Geocentrists say God
prefers to rotate the universe at 6,000,000 times the speed of light rather than make the Earth rotate once
every 24 hours, then we know where the truth lies.
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Do you see how dumb your argument is now?  Oh, I know you will have an explanation or reply.  
I'll have to give you credit for one thing, you never give up.

I do not think many would bother trying to come to terms with the problem of Geo/Helio if the subject was not connected with the credibility of divine guidance in the Catholic Church. I know my interest in the subject goes back to when I was a kid and I could never come to terms with my divinely guided Church getting it wrong in 1616 and 1633. Once is enough to show no such divine guidance is there.

Not sure where you're going with "divine guidance". The standard response is that the Galileo statements did not engage the divine protection against error. Statements of roman congregations are not papal acts unless specifically made so, and the Galileo article from the Catholic Encyclopedia says it wasn't. And the assessor's statement that you often refer to is not even an act of a roman congregation.

I really don't understand why saying a Roman congregation decree "got it wrong" would be such a problem for you. Especially when the Church has for 200+ years at least acted as if the decree was wrong. This is a traditional catholic forum, and most traditional catholics would say an ecuмenical council "got it wrong" on multiple things. A non-infallible Roman congregation erring in a decision would be nothing in comparison.

That's idiotic.  NO ONE believes that the sun is the center of the "universe".

That's not entirely true. I once came across a "geocentrist" model in which the neither the earth nor sun move, the earth rotates, and the sun is at the center with the universe rotating around it. How a geocentrist calls that geocentric remains a bit of a mystery to me, but this model does a better job with some (not all) observational data than the usual geocentric models I've seen.