Of course I already know what Tele will say, and here, I'd entirely agree with him.

These days, if a promiscuous woman gets put on trial, instantly the defense and the press try to make it look like a witch hunt, like people are punishing her just for having a good time.  The feminists all come out of the closet defending her, because what they're really hoping is that, if they get in trouble one day, the favor will be returned... People of low morals always protect each other, not out of charity but because they're hoping they can work together to be above the law; and in our times, they're succeeding.  Look at how pedos protect each other in Vatican II.

The liberals in France tried to do the same for Florence Cassez, to no effect. She is the woman jailed in Mexico for her involvement with a kidnapper; many of the intelligentsia as well as Sarkozy took her side and demanded she be freed, painting the Mexican courts as corrupted, without a shred of proof that there was anything unfair about her trial. Now in America they're trying to portray Italy as a nation of goombahs.  Look at the crazy Italian prosecutor who's talking about Satan and she-devils!  Italy acts like the Inquisition is still in force!  Etc. etc.  

Supposedly she gave a speech to the jury today that held the crowd enraptured, protesting her innocence.  Excuse me -- this woman, whether or not she was part of the murder, PROVABLY lied and tried to pin the murder on an innocent man.  He just barely lucked out and happened to have a good alibi.  Otherwise he'd be in jail to rot away.  Now, that in itself is a form of attempted murder, in sense; that in itself means Amanda Knox should still be in jail, in my opinion, because what she did is extremely serious; and -- this isn't my opinion but flat fact -- this action also in itself PROVES that she is precisely as manipulative and cold-blooded as the prosecution portrayed her.

If you were wrongly accused of committing a murder, would your first impulse be to blame it on someone else who you work for?  That is just stone-cold evil.  Yet this girl is portrayed as some innocent naif, oh sure, she got to Italy and let her hair down a little, no big deal, but she's still just a sweetie...  I am just feeling so sick.

I paid no attention to this case before today.   And I'm not sure why suddenly it's bothering me so much.  I think, though, it's because this sums up everything that is loathsome about America.  America has always portrayed itself as unable to do wrong, innocent and good, while serving the devil; its pride and lack of self-awareness is downright Satanic.  If Russia is like a black witch, whose evil is more open, America is a white witch.  It casts an evil spell while pretending to be loving and wonderful.  White witches are worse than black witches, because more seductive.

Amanda Knox, as well as her treatment by our press, perfectly encapsulates this.  We Americans can NEVER do wrong.  We are good, we are Superman, we are GI Joe, we are the saviors of the world.  Why, you ask?  Why not?  WE JUST ARE.  The media tells us so!  No accountability; no responsibility; no reality.  That is America, true land of dreams -- and not good ones.

Yet this girl is portrayed as some innocent naif, oh sure, she got to Italy and let her hair down a little, no big deal, but she's still just a sweetie...  I am just feeling so sick.

Exactly.

I paid no attention to this case before today.   And I'm not sure why suddenly it's bothering me so much.  I think, though, it's because this sums up everything that is loathsome about America.

Exactly.

America has always portrayed itself as unable to do wrong, innocent and good, while serving the devil; its pride and lack of self-awareness is downright Satanic.  If Russia is like a black witch, whose evil is more open, America is a white witch.  It casts an evil spell while pretending to be loving and wonderful.  White witches are worse than black witches, because more seductive.

If anybody has been guilty of spreading the errors of Russia (which Communism is not, since Communism is just the exultation of Russia's real errors, namely Gallican caesaro-papism, the shrewd subjection of religion to political calculation with worldly ends, the fusion of religion with state patriotism, the compensation for no theology with crude mysticism, the cult of the pure nation with universal principles pregnant in its culture and folkways, the mission to subject the world to this cult, and so on) it is the United States.  On every score mentioned in my parentheses, the United States is the equal to Russia -- no, it surpasses Russia.  American Puritano-Zionism/Messianism -- which is contained in the following concepts : "the greatest nation there ever was or ever will be," "the land of the free," "the land of opporunity," Manifest Destiny, a land endowed with the gnosis of THE universal redemptive tradition and the perfection of virtues, the teacher and moral arbiter of the world -- with the ability to correct and instruct the Pope and the Catholic Church -- is spread through the equally Protestant and Enlightenment cult of the work ethic and the destiny of the whole world becoming middle class individualists living in English-style nuclear families.  High finance and unjust expansive wars -- wherein the victim-country are Americanised/Russianised in their customs and in their economic infrastructure --are where Russia and the United States fuse into one.  Two bodies working towards the same objective ends.

Amanda Knox, as well as her treatment by our press, perfectly encapsulates this.  We Americans can NEVER do wrong.  We are good, we are Superman, we are GI Joe, we are the saviors of the world.  Why, you ask?  Why not?  WE JUST ARE.  The media tells us so!  No accountability; no responsibility; no reality.  That is America, true land of dreams -- and not good ones.

I think it is no accident that, as the United States waxes in power, influence, and self-congratulatory frenzy, religion wanes in its influence over men's hearts and the world becomes more corrupt.  It seems to me that the US is a mysterious concentration of the evil ambitions of generations of European heretics, all synthesised into one destructive force given all natural advantages for the world's punishment.

PereJoseph said:  

I think it is no accident that, as the United States waxes in power, influence, and self-congratulatory frenzy, religion wanes in its influence over men's hearts and the world becomes more corrupt.  It seems to me that the US is a mysterious concentration of the evil ambitions of generations of European heretics, all synthesised into one destructive force given all natural advantages for the world's punishment.

In short, Mystery Babylon.

Yes, this case seems almost like some kind of alchemical culmination of American pride and blindness and feminism.  And believe me, I'm not the only one saying so.  Well, maybe I'm the only saying it in that way  But this is starting a wave of justified loathing of America in Europe.  Maybe those heretics are starting to see what they have wrought; maybe they'll pull back before it's too late.

I'm not sure if I am of the literary caliber of PereJoseph or Raoul, (you too GV) to post in this thread, but I do say I like it alot.

OK, I will comment that yeah the trial was a farce and she probably did it.

Why are you playing into the Amanda Knox sob story?

I'm not, actually.  Why are you out to hammer her when you might very well be wrong?

Pointing the finger at someone else is typical behavior for American women.

Pointing the finger at someone else is typical behavior for American women.

It is typical of fallen human nature, too.  Mike wants us to believe that this soap opera -- not our part in the endless psychological and military wars and worldwide financial annihilation -- is 'starting a wave of loathing'...which is absolute poppycock, frankly.  IOW, Mike is...pointing the finger at this girl and a relatively-meaningless murder case despite the monumentally-obvious fact that any dislike of America flows from much, MUCH greater causes.

You seem awfully sure she isn't guilty.

She may very well be.  It is neither my place nor my job to determine such things and I really do not care one way or the other.

What is being taken issue with here is the enthusiastic support for a woman that is in all appearances a depraved, lying woman who might very well be guilty.

Enthusiastic, irrational condemnation is not the cure.  Who here is "enthusiastically supporting" her?  I'm not, despite whatever illusions y'all might have to the contrary.

And what about your retirement Eamon?

What about it?  Mike's over-the-top comments merited a rational reply.  Ciao :)