I've heard this "all men are rapists" thing before and thought you know, that's nuts or whatever, but it seems that the folks who make the charge take themselves seriously and are often well funded.  So, I looked into it a little and apparently, it's a pretty simple and "logical" notion, if you accept cultural relativity.  

Here's a good quote

"In a patriarchal society all heterosɛҳuąƖ intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." Catherine MacKinnon in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies, p. 129..

antimisandry.com http://antimisandry.com/articles/truth-about-feminism-10-comments1.html#ixzz1qdCwZpcV

O.k., so the idea is pretty simple.  Sex without full consent = rape.  Patriarchy = greater power to coerce for men, than women.  Hence, heterosɛҳuąƖ sex = rape of women, in a patriarchal culture.  Perfectly logical, if you accept the premise that patriarchy is a cultural construct and not the unchangeable order of the world, designed by God and that we resist at our peril.  

What it basically comes down to Marcelino, is women denying that they can be held accountable for any action, while insisting that they be permitted to make the most grievous accusations, demands for the punishment or ostracism of any man they find annoying, regardless of the truth, with immunity.  

It is totalitarian.

And another aspect, is that they don't want "betas" to touch them.  So if girls in high school are being used and abused by certain boys of loathsome character, this is just high school fun.

But if a 25 year old "loser" might be seduced by a 17 year old girl.  That's "rape."

ie, the guilt of the man depends on his social position, on the shame induced in the woman for consenting to intercourse with, or not having power over, a lesser "beta" male.

The quotes at the link are hilarious.

Telesphorus,

I think part of what you are talking about is a regime, that appeals to vice.  In doing so, the regime gains the support of a group.  In this case women, but that isn't all women, it's just a percentage and their individual support is to one degree or another, but that's enough, to make things pretty bad.  They are appealing to vice, after all.  It's like letting a bunch of vampire bats loose in your house  :scared2:

For example, you get these women who go around preying on men and the regime, at times and in ways, enables them.  Thus, rendering men, since the regime is so much more powerful than some puny individual man, powerless against some woman, who just wants to pick on him, because she gets to be stronger than some "big strong" guy, which just appeals to her pride.  And of course, the regime, often using the media, tries to deny that man any sympathy, which makes the girl who is preying on him, feel like the regime is really a good "big brother" to have around.  So long as she's giving into her pride.  Once she wants virtue, then she'll turn on the regime too and then they'll have to put her up against a wall and shoot her or put up with her wearing modest clothes and acting all demure.  

Picture of Andrea Dworkin

Picture of Andrea Dworkin

Some people need never fear.

Quote from: Maizar

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Picture of Andrea Dworkin

Some people need never fear.

this is the police, put the fork down and step away from the plate!  

Maybe she has a warm personality and bakes the best scones in the village?

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