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Offline Marcelino

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All Men Are Rapists
« on: March 30, 2012, 03:20:21 PM »
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  • I've heard this "all men are rapists" thing before and thought you know, that's nuts or whatever, but it seems that the folks who make the charge take themselves seriously and are often well funded.  So, I looked into it a little and apparently, it's a pretty simple and "logical" notion, if you accept cultural relativity.  

    Here's a good quote

    "In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." Catherine MacKinnon in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies, p. 129..

    antimisandry.com http://antimisandry.com/articles/truth-about-feminism-10-comments1.html#ixzz1qdCwZpcV

    O.k., so the idea is pretty simple.  Sex without full consent = rape.  Patriarchy = greater power to coerce for men, than women.  Hence, heterosexual sex = rape of women, in a patriarchal culture.  Perfectly logical, if you accept the premise that patriarchy is a cultural construct and not the unchangeable order of the world, designed by God and that we resist at our peril.  



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    « Reply #1 on: March 30, 2012, 03:37:14 PM »
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  • It would stand to reason then that Homosexuals, at least in a Heterosexual culture, would be victims of "rape" too, since they would be coerced to not have sex with men, but rather be a good boy and take a wife.  Which would be forcing them to have sex with somebody they didn't want to, which would be rape.  Elementary!   :detective:


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    « Reply #2 on: March 30, 2012, 03:39:47 PM »
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  • What it basically comes down to Marcelino, is women denying that they can be held accountable for any action, while insisting that they be permitted to make the most grievous accusations, demands for the punishment or ostracism of any man they find annoying, regardless of the truth, with immunity.  

    It is totalitarian.

    And another aspect, is that they don't want "betas" to touch them.  So if girls in high school are being used and abused by certain boys of loathsome character, this is just high school fun.

    But if a 25 year old "loser" might be seduced by a 17 year old girl.  That's "rape."

    ie, the guilt of the man depends on his social position, on the shame induced in the woman for consenting to intercourse with, or not having power over, a lesser "beta" male.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 30, 2012, 03:41:26 PM »
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  • Anybody else "raped" by Traditional Culture, besides Homosexuals and Women?  Yes!  "Victims" of Arranged Marriages (apparently, common enough to be an issue, prior to the sexual revolution of the 1920s)   :nunchaku:

    "beyond the rocks" with rudolph valentino and gloria swanson, "explores" the issue  :tv-disturbed:





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    « Reply #4 on: March 30, 2012, 03:42:27 PM »
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  • The quotes at the link are hilarious.


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    « Reply #5 on: March 30, 2012, 04:18:47 PM »
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  • Blacks not the only slaves in The West.  Wives Are Slaves Too.  

    As cited in Andrea Dworkin's "Right-Wing Women" "...I submit that any sexual intercourse between a free man and a human being he owns or controls is rape." -- Alice Walker in "Embracing the Dark and the Light," Essence, July 1982. (Feminists believe that marriage = ownership).

    antimisandry.com http://antimisandry.com/articles/truth-about-feminism-10-comments1.html#ixzz1qdVDqVHB

    O.k., so if you accept the premise of cultural relativity, then living in a patriarchal culture would be oppressive for women and being married would be slavery.  

    Of course, you would also accept moral relativism, which should make you shrug, "so what?"   :kick-can:  But then, you might want power.  They say, once virtue is gone, it's all that's left to strive for.  Still, I suppose you could just pursue pleasure.  




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    « Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 04:47:38 PM »
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  • Telesphorus,

    I think part of what you are talking about is a regime, that appeals to vice.  In doing so, the regime gains the support of a group.  In this case women, but that isn't all women, it's just a percentage and their individual support is to one degree or another, but that's enough, to make things pretty bad.  They are appealing to vice, after all.  It's like letting a bunch of vampire bats loose in your house  :scared2:

    For example, you get these women who go around preying on men and the regime, at times and in ways, enables them.  Thus, rendering men, since the regime is so much more powerful than some puny individual man, powerless against some woman, who just wants to pick on him, because she gets to be stronger than some "big strong" guy, which just appeals to her pride.  And of course, the regime, often using the media, tries to deny that man any sympathy, which makes the girl who is preying on him, feel like the regime is really a good "big brother" to have around.  So long as she's giving into her pride.  Once she wants virtue, then she'll turn on the regime too and then they'll have to put her up against a wall and shoot her or put up with her wearing modest clothes and acting all demure.  






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    « Reply #7 on: April 01, 2012, 08:48:12 PM »
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  • Catherine MacKinnon writes a lot of nonsense and she shouldn't be taken seriously.

    If you attend a university where she has tenure, just steer clear of her.

    People who hold onto these beliefs about the patriarchy, and by this I mean people who truly believe this pablum are mentally ill and they can't really be cured.  They are to be avoided.

    Some people who to to university and aren't sure of themselves may for a while espouse these nonsensical ideas but romance brings them back to reality.  Mentally healthy people don't hold fast to the ideas of Catherine MacKinnon for any length of time.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 01, 2012, 09:36:32 PM »
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    « Reply #9 on: April 01, 2012, 09:41:37 PM »
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  • Of course flaming leftist Snopes website says neither MacKinnon or Dworkin said, "all sex is rape."

    http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mackinnon.asp

    I love the left.

    A leftist says "A=B" and then says "B=C"

    Conservative then says, "Leftist says A=C!"

    Leftist says, how dare you! Liar! I never said A=C!

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    « Reply #10 on: April 01, 2012, 11:01:46 PM »
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    Some people need never fear.


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    « Reply #11 on: April 01, 2012, 11:07:40 PM »
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    Some people need never fear.


    this is the police, put the fork down and step away from the plate!  

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    « Reply #12 on: April 01, 2012, 11:25:19 PM »
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    Some people need never fear.


    this is the police, put the fork down and step away from the plate!  


    Maybe she has a warm personality and bakes the best scones in the village?

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    « Reply #13 on: April 01, 2012, 11:31:59 PM »
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    Some people need never fear.


    this is the police, put the fork down and step away from the plate!  


    Maybe she has a warm personality and bakes the best scones in the village?


    Yeah, for a biker gang!  

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    « Reply #14 on: April 01, 2012, 11:50:34 PM »
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  •  :reading:

     

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