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Offline Mithrandylan

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« on: April 24, 2012, 09:47:14 PM »
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  • Especially the part where he killed himself, super Catholic.  
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    « Reply #1 on: April 24, 2012, 09:47:39 PM »
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  • Karl and those like him need to be perma-banned and their troll screeds erased from the board. Karl's purpose is to smear the board by posting ridiculous crap. Wouldn't be surprised if he is St. JC who was just banned.


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    « Reply #2 on: April 24, 2012, 10:14:16 PM »
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  • Does anyone know of any other board where there are so many trolls like this?  

    What frightens me about it is it takes a certain cunning intelligence.  Various Catholics are flirting with variants of these ideas, they are drawn to them because of an extreme reaction to the depredations of the Jєωs.  When there was a Feeneyite infestation on these boards, you had various trolls planting extreme Feeneyite ideas.  Now that there are these disturbing "racialist" ideas floating around, suddenly we get trolls like this.  

    Is it the same guy?  Is it Pope Augustine, controlled by diabolical suggestion?  The tone is the same.  There is a clear mockery to what he's doing, I doubt whoever posted this really believes Hitler is a saint.  Pope Augustine or The Great Monarch or whatever he called himself was clearly writing a mocking satire of Catholics, playing on our reactionary views.  It appears to be someone or several someones who just like messing with Catholics.

    I would say this very likely is Pope Augustine, the sense of humor is a strong hint in that direction.  Another hint is the poster's in-depth knowledge of the faith, which gives his satire a certain accuracy.  Augustine knews how we think and how to play off of it, and so does this person.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 11:01:35 PM »
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  • The winners, no matter how evil, write history.

    Consider how the victors have whitewashed their own h0Ɩ0cαųsts before (Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki) and after (the prison camp murder of 1-2 million German soldiers)  WW2.  Consider how the victors have fabricated evidence (the construction of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" by USSR ʝʊdɛօ-Communists) to prop up the Judaic propagandist Ilya Ehrenberg's "h0Ɩ0cαųst" lies.

    Considering the mountains of lies and fabricated evidence we know about, what is so bizarre about casting a sharp eye upon other suppressed evidence? I am most astonished at the mountain of suppressed evidence that surfaces day after day here: http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/

    In fact, there was a thread there discussing evidence that Hitler did not commit ѕυιcιdє, but led a stealthy life in Argentina. I have been told so many historical lies by the victors that I want to see the evidence.  If it isn't from the Magisterium I do not trust it—period.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 24, 2012, 11:23:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul76


    I would say this very likely is Pope Augustine, the sense of humor is a strong hint in that direction.  Another hint is the poster's in-depth knowledge of the faith, which gives his satire a certain accuracy.  Augustine knews how we think and how to play off of it, and so does this person.


    I think it's someone who is in tandem with a regular poster here.





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    « Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 12:09:03 AM »
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  • I'm not a troll and I have NO AGENDA.

    I just found an honest article I was looking to discuss.

    The article cited well docuмented, academic books and articles. If you doubt any of the claims, you should look them up for yourselves.

    I just don't understand why nobody wants to take an honest look at Hitler's religious views?

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    « Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 12:17:37 AM »
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  • Why is everyone so scared of the truth? Why don't you just accept it so you can realize who our real enemy is...

    The Church certainly did:

    In 1205, Pope Innocent III criticized the Jєωs in Etsi non Displaceat (Though I Should Not…). He accused the Jєωs of arrogance, money lending for profit, and blasphemy. He also claimed the Jєωs were punished with perpetual servitude for killing Jesus.
    In 1218, Pope Honorius III wrote Generali Concilio (General Council), which demanded that Jєωs wear special clothing to distinguish themselves from Catholics. He also forced Jєωs to pay a special tax to their local church.
    In 1233, Pope Gregory IX wrote Sufficere Debuerat Perfidio (The Faithless Should Have Sufficient Work), which prohibited Jєωs from hiring Christian servants to avoid manual labor.
    In 1239, he also wrote Si Vera Sunt (If They Are True…), which required that copies of the Jєωιѕн тαℓмυd be confiscated and burned.
    In 1442, Pope Eugene IV wrote Dundum ad Nostram Audientiam (To Our Hearing…), which forced Jєωs to live in a segregated area of the city which became known as the ghetto.
    In 1555 Pope Paul IV wrote cuм Nimis Absurdum (Since it is Absurd…), which introduced severe religious and economic restrictions on Jєωs throughout Europe.
    In 1567, Pope Pius V wrote cuм nos Nuper (When We Recently…), which made it illegal for Jєωs to own real estate.
    In 1569, he also wrote, Hebraeorum Gens (Nation of the Hebrews), which accused Jєωs of immorality and ordered their expulsion from the Papal States
    In 1593, Pope Clement VIII wrote Caeca et Obdurata Hebraeorum Perfidia (Blinded and Hardened by the Deceitfulness of the Jєωs), which claimed the Jєωs used money lending to take advantage of the working class.
    in 1755, Pope Benedict XIV wrote Beatus Andreas (Blessed Andrew), which declared Jєωs carried out the ritual murder and blood sacrifice of Catholic children.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 25, 2012, 12:37:19 AM »
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  • Separating fact from fiction can be difficult when dealing with Adolf Hitler. Personally I doubt that he committed ѕυιcιdє. However it is a fact that he was funded by Prescott Bush and Averill Harrimen, two of the foremost eugenicists of the period, which  makes claims that he was Catholic pretty ridiculous. They may have been made to dupe Catholics into thinking he was OK to vote for, he was democratically elected if I am not mistaken. When Obama is talking to Catholics he'll refer affectionately to Cardinal Bernadine or tell a story about how he went to a Catholic school in Indonesia. It's called pandering to the crowd.

    Anyway, that may explain some of those references.


    Offline Traditional Guy 20

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    « Reply #8 on: April 25, 2012, 08:02:12 AM »
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  • Quote from: Karl


    Why is everyone so scared of the truth? Why don't you just accept it so you can realize who our real enemy is...

    The Church certainly did:

    In 1205, Pope Innocent III criticized the Jєωs in Etsi non Displaceat (Though I Should Not…). He accused the Jєωs of arrogance, money lending for profit, and blasphemy. He also claimed the Jєωs were punished with perpetual servitude for killing Jesus.
    In 1218, Pope Honorius III wrote Generali Concilio (General Council), which demanded that Jєωs wear special clothing to distinguish themselves from Catholics. He also forced Jєωs to pay a special tax to their local church.
    In 1233, Pope Gregory IX wrote Sufficere Debuerat Perfidio (The Faithless Should Have Sufficient Work), which prohibited Jєωs from hiring Christian servants to avoid manual labor.
    In 1239, he also wrote Si Vera Sunt (If They Are True…), which required that copies of the Jєωιѕн тαℓмυd be confiscated and burned.
    In 1442, Pope Eugene IV wrote Dundum ad Nostram Audientiam (To Our Hearing…), which forced Jєωs to live in a segregated area of the city which became known as the ghetto.
    In 1555 Pope Paul IV wrote cuм Nimis Absurdum (Since it is Absurd…), which introduced severe religious and economic restrictions on Jєωs throughout Europe.
    In 1567, Pope Pius V wrote cuм nos Nuper (When We Recently…), which made it illegal for Jєωs to own real estate.
    In 1569, he also wrote, Hebraeorum Gens (Nation of the Hebrews), which accused Jєωs of immorality and ordered their expulsion from the Papal States
    In 1593, Pope Clement VIII wrote Caeca et Obdurata Hebraeorum Perfidia (Blinded and Hardened by the Deceitfulness of the Jєωs), which claimed the Jєωs used money lending to take advantage of the working class.
    in 1755, Pope Benedict XIV wrote Beatus Andreas (Blessed Andrew), which declared Jєωs carried out the ritual murder and blood sacrifice of Catholic children.


    Hitler is neither a saint nor a devil. He was a real historical person. As for Hitler's religious views there are accounts that support that Hitler continued to be a Catholic after boyhood and there are accounts that Hitler despised both Catholicism and Protestantism. No one but Hitler would know it seems. However if Hitler was indeed a Catholic (hypothetically speaking) in Mein Kampf he wants no part of the inter-denominational conflicts which he stated was a cause that the Jєωs were successful: they divided Christianity, and made Christians fight eachother. Yes Hitler was definitely against the same people the Church says She is against: Jєωs, Communists, Freemasons, etc. but as I said I assume only Hitler would know his own religious views.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 25, 2012, 08:04:14 AM »
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    Especially the part where he killed himself, super Catholic.  


    Well I'm not defending the guy of course but I assume he figured that the Soviets would have given him a fate worse than death had he surrendered. Also I believe Ernest Hemingway also committed ѕυιcιdє no?

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    « Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 08:15:27 AM »
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  • Quote from: Thursday
    However it is a fact that he was funded by Prescott Bush and Averill Harrimen, two of the foremost eugenicists of the period, which  makes claims that he was Catholic pretty ridiculous.


    The eugenics movement was founded in America and Great Britain which the nαzι Party simply copied. I'm not defending what they did but the nαzιs believed they were actually being humane by putting the people who were physically and mentally handicapped out of their misery. As for Hitler's racial ideas most of his ideas were very commonplace during that time period. As for Hitler's ideas about the Jєωs it could be traced to the German Lutheran community and Martin Luther's book "On the Jєωs and their Lies" (in fact Hitler praises Martin Luther a lot) and his own upbringing in a pre-Vatican II Church. Of course when I say that I just mean his initial views on Jєωs. Obviously a lot of his other ideas about Jєωs being Marxists, capitalists, democrats, dictators, etc. are from his own views. Also remember that Hitler was not a white supremacist. He only cared about what was good for the German nation and he considered enemies of Germany Jєωs, Slavs, Gypsies, Communists, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, Freemasons, Blacks etc. He was a German nationalist really and maybe an Anglophilliac considering his love for the British Empire.


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    « Reply #11 on: April 25, 2012, 12:45:24 PM »
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    Look at the academic evidence, there is ample proof that Hitler was a devout Catholic.


    Nancy Peℓσѕι and Joe Biden claim to be devout Catholics as well. Does that mean we should think highly of them?
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 02:11:09 PM »
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  • Saying you're a Catholic means zilch if you are flouting the tenets of the religion, on top of that, who ever thought of him as a Catholic in his time?  Was he trying to establish a Catholic state?  

    The logic of those who, consciously or not, are working for the devil in their attempts to associate Catholics with Hitler, is "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."  Therefore, many Protestants and Orthodox are our compadres because they are against, say, communism.  Or let's take it even further into a reductio ad absurdum.  James I, king of England, was obsessed with witches and witchcraft, yet he was an Anglican leading an anti-Catholic state.  I guess he was a friend of Catholics because he was against witches, and we're against witches too?  

    What if there is someone who is burning Catholics because he thinks that THEY'RE witches, should be on HIS side?  Why not?  He is against witches, isn't he?

    See, these people who don't do God's will and don't follow the Church are a bundle of contradictions, of paradoxes.  How easy it would be to just follow someone who says "I'm Catholic." Like that solves everything -- paying lip service to the faith while acting like a heathen.  



    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 02:13:47 PM »
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    Especially the part where he killed himself, super Catholic.  


    Well I'm not defending the guy of course but I assume he figured that the Soviets would have given him a fate worse than death had he surrendered. Also I believe Ernest Hemingway also committed ѕυιcιdє no?


    Yes, as did Hunter S. Thompson, but that can't possibly excuse Hitler from committing ѕυιcιdє(or maybe not) if he was indeed catholic.

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    « Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 04:46:57 PM »
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    Was he trying to establish a Catholic state?


    No offense but if we were regarding successful societies by this standard the Roman Republic, Roman Empire, Athens, the England of Elizabeth I, the Prussia of Frederick the Great, the Russia of Peter the Great, the Germany of Bismarck, the United States, the Islamic culture in Arabia, etc. would all be 'unsuccessful' societies. Besides your model 'Catholic state' would be Ferdinand and Isabella who expelled the Moors and Jєωs and countenanced the Inqusition. :wink: