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Offline Geremia

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Abp. Lefebvre on the Islamic invasion
« on: August 09, 2016, 01:56:53 PM »
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    Quote from: SSPX Canada
    Archbishop Lefebvre himself was sued by the LICRA (league against racism and anti-Semitism) for an answer he gave to journalists on the occasion of a conference he gave in 1989, in which he was warning against the Islamization of France.  His Grace said that Muslims will take advantage of their numbers to impose their laws to the country.  Archbishop Lefebvre was thus taken to court, and found guilty of hate discrimination on March 21, 1991.  But, as he died four days later, on March 25, 1991, the Good Lord spared him the fine!
    (source: "Freedom of speech, freedom of press - a big hoax")
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    Abp. Lefebvre on the Islamic invasion
    « Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 02:37:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: Geremia (Aug 9, 2016, 2:56 pm)
    <https://www.youtube.com/embed/yVt0dnwZMCo>

    I-a no speak-a duh YouToob-a.

    Perhaps similarly minded readers would be interested in additional details on the LICRA civil lawsuit, as provided by another Web page, at the SSPX District of Asia
    • : "The Archbishop Speaks: Truth Justice & the News Media".  It presents Abp. Lefebvre's "Declaration Preliminary to the Court Case of June 21, 1990" (from Ecône).    <http://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Truth_Justice_&_the_News_Media.htm>.

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      Note @: Seeing the persistence of SSPX web pages at <http://www.sspxasia.com/> in times "when all about them are losing theirs"
    • , I imagine that a motto, inspired by the Siberians under their tsars, has been adopted by the SSPX District of Asia, thus something along these lines: "God is far above, and Menzingen is far away".

      Note #: Quoted from 1 of Lewis Carroll's Alice books?  Searches at Wikiquote and (arrrgh) Google were unsuccessful.


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    Abp. Lefebvre on the Islamic invasion
    « Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 03:48:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Geremia (Aug 9, 2016, 2:56 pm)
    Quote from: SSPX Canada (January 26, 2015)
    Archbishop Lefebvre himself was sued by the LICRA (league against racism and anti-Semitism) for an answer he gave to journalists on the occasion of a conference he gave in 1989, in which he was warning against the Islamization of France.  His Grace said that Muslims will take advantage of their numbers to impose their laws to the country.

    Ah, yes.  The French Ligue Internationale Contre le Racisme et l'Antisémitisme.  What possible objection could anyone have to their dragging an 84½-year-old traditional Catholic archbishop into court for something he said 15 days before his 84th birthday?

    Let's see.  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_League_against_Racism_and_Anti-Semitism> provides the predictable victimist-leftist ideology, altho' at least 1 objective Wikipedia editor inserted 2 warning boxes immediately below the article title, and they've somehow avoided removal for at least 3 years:
    · "This article does not cite any sources. [....] (September 2013)"
    · "This article contains content that is written like an advertisement. [....] (May 2012)"
    · "This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. [....] (February 2011)"
    Indeed, the Wikipedia article does read as if it's a copy-&-paste from an English version of a LICRA promotional "about" Web page (aber Ich spreche nicht Französisch). 

    So a reader seeking more objectivity on LICRA oughtta turn elsewhere, e.g., to <http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/LICRA>, which describes LICRA as "a Jєωιѕн supremacist hate group which operates in France on a firmly Francophobic platform.  It is the French equiv[a]lent of the ADL [i.e.: (Jєωιѕн) AntiDefamation League] of B'nai B'rith and has a very similar history."   Sounds a lot more plausible
    • than what I read in Wikipedia.


    Oddly, it's even more plausible as a comparison, than what's asserted by the SSPX District of Asia in the introduction of the Web page that I cited in my reply earlier today (Aug 19, 2016, 3:37 pm): "[t]he French equivalent of the American Civil Liberties Union".  Ummm, no.  I get the impression, albeit from a tiny sample size, that LICRA engages routinely in vindicative litigation.  Altho' the ACLU displays a leftist slant in general, it has proven itself occasionally useful for defending the conservative or libertarian side in U.S. political issues.

    So I wonder: Has LICRA always been compared to the ACLU in that SSPX intro, or did it previously compare the French organization to some other organization in the U.S.A.?   Possibly to 1 in the U.S.A. whose organizational purpose, like LICRA in France, is focused on Jєωry as a group-identity, hmmm?


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    Note *: Altho' at present, I have insufficient experience reading Metapedia to either endorse or condemn it.  It provides a link to what is labelled "Archbishop Lefebvre's 'Racism' Charge at SSPX": <http://www.sspxseminary.org/publications/rectors-letters-separator/rectors-letter/140.html>.  Uh, huh.  Another broken link (i.e.: HTTP 404) to an SSPX Web page concerning the life of Abp. LeFebvre.  I'm shocked.  Absolutely shocked, I tell you!

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    « Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 07:00:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: AlligatorDicax
    Asia in the introduction of the Web page that I cited in my reply earlier today (Aug 19, 2016, 3:37 pm): "[t]he French equivalent of the American Civil Liberties Union".  Ummm, no.  I get the impression, albeit from a tiny sample size, that LICRA engages routinely in vindicative litigation.  Altho' the ACLU displays a leftist slant in general, it has proven itself occasionally useful for defending the conservative or libertarian side in U.S. political issues.
    LICRA sounds more like the U.S.'s Southern Poverty Law Center.
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