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AA-1025 by Marie Curre - the book that keeps on giving
« on: July 04, 2014, 03:47:51 PM »
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    Typo -- it's Marie Carre, not Curre.

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    Every 5 years or so I re-read AA-1025 The Memoirs of an Anti-Apostle, and am doing so right now.

    Let me quote a paragraph from the very end of the book

    For people like Michael, Vatican II was only a trial-balloon which history will hardly mention.  But Vatican III will seal the alliance of Christianity and Marxism, and the most remarkable change will be the plurality of religious dogmas and the uncompromising character of social dogmas.

    One of the most disgusting parts of the book talks about, "the beatification and even canonization of the greatest heretics."

    I don't know who will call this council but I'm afraid there will be one.


    Miseremini made that post July 30th, 2013, a year ago, before the announcement of the Newcanonizations of John XXIII and JPII, but after that of Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer, for example, and Mother Theresa of Calcutta who offered suffering people Buddhist water or Holy Water -- their choice!!

    A year later now, the "canonization of heretics" is a much more recognizable problem!  I recall reading this book years ago and when I saw that part about canonization of the greatest heretics I had thought, "NO WAY!"  

    I don't say that anymore.  So I guess you could say I've been converted.  

    The Apostles were converted when they saw Our Lord's crucifixion.  


    I just heard Fr. Pfeiffer mention AA-1025 in his most recent conference in Denver, CO (June 29th), asking if anyone knows the year to which the book refers.  This immediately struck me as odd because the book covers several decades, not just one year.  It begins by saying that the anti-apostle was most likely born in Poland in 1917, and ran away from home at 14, later returning there at age 20, which would have been 1937, just before Hitler occupied Poland.  (But no mention is made of the War in this book.)

    In many ways, the anti-apostle's life parallels that of John Paul II, curiously.

    The last mention of any year in the chronology of the memoirs is 1938, when the anti-apostle was about to enter seminary.  So he would have been heading for ordination in 1944 or thereabouts, but the book does not say whether he ever did get ordained.  Therefore, it would seem he did not, especially since he showed up in the hospital as an accident victim but nothing to indicate that he was a priest.  The year of his hospitalization is not identified.  Obviously, his memoirs could have been composed years before his hospitalization, so they could be from as early as 1940 +/-, to as late as 1964, it would seem.  That would be the year before Carre converted from protestant to Catholic.  While she doesn't say so, it appears likely that this found manuscript had been influential in her conversion.

    The only other later dates mentioned are 1965 when the author, Marie Carre, converted from protestantism to Catholic, and 1973, when the first edition came out in French.  On the pp 94-98 are Carre's editorial comments which could only have been composed after 1970.



    After hearing Fr. Pfeiffer mention AA-1025, I got out my copy and read it again.

    It's a pretty fast read, now.  Been there, so it's a review now.  And I recommend this to others who think they don't need to see this a second time.  

    The reason I recommend re-reading it is the following.  

    I suggest that while you read it this time, keep in mind what has been going on lately in the SSPX.   And ask yourself if the attitudes and outlook of this anti-apostle who wrote his memoirs, is not all that different from what it would appear to be going on in the minds of the men who are currently trying to destroy the SSPX from the inside.  



    Ask yourself that question, that is, if you dare.





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    AA-1025 by Marie Curre - the book that keeps on giving
    « Reply #1 on: July 04, 2014, 05:03:43 PM »
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  • Did Bella Dodd write a book?


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    « Reply #2 on: July 04, 2014, 09:47:54 PM »
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  • Bella Dodd wrote  "School of Darkness" 1954
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    « Reply #3 on: July 04, 2014, 10:01:50 PM »
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  • I take it, that you read it.  Can it be read on archives or buy it?

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    « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2014, 10:43:42 AM »
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  • School of Darkness can be read at


      http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/dodd/dodd.html
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2014, 03:04:36 PM »
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    « Reply #6 on: July 08, 2014, 07:59:51 PM »
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  • I read the Bella Dodd book today, using the link provided above.  She never mentioned the "work" of infiltrating seminaries.  Did she only mention that in front of Congress?  Or was this book edited so as to delete that piece of information?  

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    « Reply #7 on: July 09, 2014, 05:03:38 PM »
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  • Quote from: Merry
    I read the Bella Dodd book today, using the link provided above.  She never mentioned the "work" of infiltrating seminaries.  Did she only mention that in front of Congress?  Or was this book edited so as to delete that piece of information?  


    This site will give even more about the infiltration of the church

    http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m135.html#Dr. Bella V. Dodd
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    « Reply #8 on: July 09, 2014, 08:01:53 PM »
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  • Thank You so much for that!!

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    « Reply #9 on: July 09, 2014, 10:51:20 PM »
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  • Quote from: Merry
    I read the Bella Dodd book today, using the link provided above.  She never mentioned the "work" of infiltrating seminaries.  Did she only mention that in front of Congress?  Or was this book edited so as to delete that piece of information?  


    I had a friend who knew Bella Dodd in person and attended her lectures here in the USA after her conversion.  Mary told me that Bella Dodd answered questions after talks she gave and that was when she explained the project of infiltration of trained agents into seminaries, which she had been involved with.  But that was not her primary work, so it's not what she gave talks explaining.  Therefore, it's not too surprising it wouldn't be in her book.  Maybe she thought the book would never get published if it had that material in it!  My friend Mary passed away many years ago, so it's too late to ask her about this.  

    Maybe I know someone else who talked to her about it, though.

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    « Reply #10 on: July 09, 2014, 11:02:06 PM »
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    Every 5 years or so I re-read AA-1025 The Memoirs of an Anti-Apostle, and am doing so right now.

    Let me quote a paragraph from the very end of the book

    For people like Michael, Vatican II was only a trial-balloon which history will hardly mention.  But Vatican III will seal the alliance of Christianity and Marxism, and the most remarkable change will be the plurality of religious dogmas and the uncompromising character of social dogmas.

    One of the most disgusting parts of the book talks about, "the beatification and even canonization of the greatest heretics."

    I don't know who will call this council but I'm afraid there will be one.


    Miseremini made that post July 30th, 2013, a year ago, before the announcement of the Newcanonizations of John XXIII and JPII, but after that of Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer, for example, and Mother Theresa of Calcutta who offered suffering people Buddhist water or Holy Water -- their choice!!

    A year later now, the "canonization of heretics" is a much more recognizable problem!  I recall reading this book years ago and when I saw that part about canonization of the greatest heretics I had thought, "NO WAY!"  

    I don't say that anymore.  So I guess you could say I've been converted.  

    The Apostles were converted when they saw Our Lord's crucifixion.  


    I just heard Fr. Pfeiffer mention AA-1025 in his most recent conference in Denver, CO (June 29th), asking if anyone knows the year to which the book refers.  This immediately struck me as odd because the book covers several decades, not just one year.  It begins by saying that the anti-apostle was most likely born in Poland in 1917, and ran away from home at 14, later returning there at age 20, which would have been 1937, just before Hitler occupied Poland.  (But no mention is made of the War in this book.)



    After hearing the Pfeiffer conference recording again, I see he was speaking quickly and I had missed that he was asking for the year when Agent 1025 had died.  He said he thought it was in the late 30's or early 40's.  

    I re-read the book looking for that and found that there is no specific year mentioned.  Nor does the book say that the Agent had ever been ordained a priest.  In fact, by the way his notes trail off at the end it would seem that he had PRESUMED he would be ordained but his pride would never allow him to admit that he had failed to become a priest in the end, IMHO.  He wrote that he was entering seminary in 1938, so he would have been ordained in 1944, near the end of the war.  It seems that he might have been a wartime civilian casualty, going to the hospital before the war was over.  But then again, that's not clear, and he might have had his car accident in the late 40's.  


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    In many ways, the anti-apostle's life parallels that of John Paul II, curiously.

    The last mention of any year in the chronology of the memoirs is 1938, when the anti-apostle was about to enter seminary.  So he would have been heading for ordination in 1944 or thereabouts, but the book does not say whether he ever did get ordained.  Therefore, it would seem he did not, especially since he showed up in the hospital as an accident victim but nothing to indicate that he was a priest.  The year of his hospitalization is not identified.  Obviously, his memoirs could have been composed years before his hospitalization, so they could be from as early as 1940 +/-, to as late as 1964, it would seem.  That would be the year before Carre converted from protestant to Catholic.  While she doesn't say so, it appears likely that this found manuscript had been influential in her conversion.

    The only other later dates mentioned are 1965 when the author, Marie Carre, converted from protestantism to Catholic, and 1973, when the first edition came out in French.  On the pp 94-98 are Carre's editorial comments which could only have been composed after 1970.



    After hearing Fr. Pfeiffer mention AA-1025, I got out my copy and read it again.

    It's a pretty fast read, now.  Been there, so it's a review now.  And I recommend this to others who think they don't need to see this a second time.  

    The reason I recommend re-reading it is the following.  

    I suggest that while you read it this time, keep in mind what has been going on lately in the SSPX.   And ask yourself if the attitudes and outlook of this anti-apostle who wrote his memoirs, is not all that different from what it would appear to be going on in the minds of the men who are currently trying to destroy the SSPX from the inside.  



    Ask yourself that question, that is, if you dare.





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    « Reply #11 on: July 12, 2014, 09:44:04 PM »
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  • This site will give even more about the infiltration of the church

    http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m135.html#Dr. Bella V. Dodd

    Miseremini - Thank you for this.  I happened to run across it myself after I posted and saw how Bella Dodd left the mention of the Church infiltration she helped with, for her speeches.  Not even to mention it in her book.  Also, the list of names of those she "infiltrated" - she said she gave to Bishop Sheen who told her not to reveal them!  The question then came up, was he a "sleeper" - he attended and supported Vatican II.  But you know what ... just as much as we know she said about her "Church" work, should be enough for anyone to believe that the Church and the changes of Vat. II are man-made, contrived - the work of conspirators or infiltrators.  If people refuse to give pause when they read Bella Dodd's own assertion, who had a hand in the affair - "neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead."

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    « Reply #12 on: July 16, 2014, 06:04:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: Merry
    This site will give even more about the infiltration of the church

    http://www.traditionalcatholicmass.com/home-m135.html#Dr. Bella V. Dodd

    Miseremini - Thank you for this.  I happened to run across it myself after I posted and saw how Bella Dodd left the mention of the Church infiltration she helped with, for her speeches.  Not even to mention it in her book.  Also, the list of names of those she "infiltrated" - she said she gave to Bishop Sheen who told her not to reveal them!  The question then came up, was he a "sleeper" - he attended and supported Vatican II.  But you know what ... just as much as we know she said about her "Church" work, should be enough for anyone to believe that the Church and the changes of Vat. II are man-made, contrived - the work of conspirators or infiltrators.  If people refuse to give pause when they read Bella Dodd's own assertion, who had a hand in the affair - "neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead."


    I find it curious that some Fellayites have either heard Bella Dodd speeches or have spoken to others who heard them, and yet, they cannot begin to imagine that the principles explained therein might possibly apply to certain priests who made their way through the SSPX.  Their loyalty is so firmly set, that they can't begin to imagine there is any correlation.

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