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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: poche on February 21, 2014, 03:29:38 AM
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During a sacramental confession, a priest says something to which the penitent objects. The penitent lodges a complaint. The priest, bound by the seal of confession, cannot defend himself; he cannot say anything at all. If the angry penitent can find someone willing to listen to his complain, it becomes a one-sided argument. We don't even know whether the priest actually said what the penitent accuses him of saying.
Still, in a recent incident described in a Washington Post story, the penitent himself has said enough to give readers an understanding of what probably happened. Ronald Plishka, the penitent, is a self-identified ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, apparently (from what he told the Post) active and planning to remain active. If he said as much in confession, then the priest, Father Brian Coelho, could not absolve him, since a valid confession requires a purpose of amendment.
What we have here, then, is an increasingly familiar phenomenon: a Catholic who wants the sacraments, but wants them administered entirely on his own terms—someone who wants the consolations of a faith that he no longer professes. It’s a sad story, and doubly said because Plishka, as described in the Post story, seems to have been surprised to learn that he could not have absolution for the asking, that he might be required to adhere to the teachings of the Church he claims to embrace.
But there is an ominous aspect of the Post story, too. The Washington Hospital Center, where Plishka was a patient at the time of the incident, has announced that chaplains like Father Coelho are expected to “adhere to our values,” which include unquestioning support for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ patients. “Our Department of Spiritual Care has reinforced our expectations with this particular priest and his superiors,” the hospital said.
What happens the next time a patient at the Washington Hospital Center complains that a priest urged him to cease his ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activities? Will he be removed from his post as chaplain? And if that happens at the Washington Hospital Center, how many months—or weeks, or days—will pass before military chaplains face similar problems?
There will not be a frontal assault on the religious liberty of Catholics in the US. The pressure will be more subtle; the restrictions will come at the margin. But the pressure is mounting, to bring the Church under political control.
http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/the-city-gates.cfm?id=740
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If this guy loved the mass so much, why doesn't he try to sort out his disordered passions?
Good for the priest! He shouldn't have to sit and take abuse from some unrepentant sinner.
Maybe it's nothing but it seems like it's coming down to 2 kinds of catholics: those who want to conform themselves to God's will and those who want God to conform to their will.
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Add to that, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs who are out to destroy anything of God, a priest. The ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are using legislature to "force" us to comply to their god. In so doing, the states are making laws, supposedly, because they want no descrimination, when in fact, the laws, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are taking away the peoples free will. We have free will to serve or not serve the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs. Who are they to force us to sell them flowers, candy, make a marriage where it is not, and etc. They might just as well be the mafia. As we know, they are doing the job of satan.
Someone said to me today, the states and world are watching AZ to see if they will or will not pass the bill for the LBGT. I told this person who are we to believe in the press? Are they putting thoughts in our heads? And who cares who is watching, God most certainly is and he will have His judgement day!
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I think the Novus Ordo will cave in to the pressure. They no longer have the true faith to strengthen them, and only a small percentage of the Novus Ordo "faithful" believe in the Church's teachings anyway.
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It is a sad state of affairs, indeed. People, like the unrepentant, selfish man in the article need to realize that you can't serve two masters, as Scripture would say. Either one is repentant of their sin and has God, or they're blind in their errors and don't.
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It is a sad state of affairs, indeed. People, like the unrepentant, selfish man in the article need to realize that you can't serve two masters, as Scripture would say. Either one is repentant of their sin and has God, or they're blind in their errors and don't.
Says the guy who just endorsed fag "marriage" in the anonymous subforum... And then asked for his own banning?
Impy, is this your latest iteration?
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I think the Novus Ordo will cave in to the pressure. They no longer have the true faith to strengthen them, and only a small percentage of the Novus Ordo "faithful" believe in the Church's teachings anyway.
It was a Novus Ordo priest who refused him absolution and a Novus Ordo priest at the Basilica who told him that the Church does not give absolution to sinners who are not sorry for their sins.
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I think the Novus Ordo will cave in to the pressure. They no longer have the true faith to strengthen them, and only a small percentage of the Novus Ordo "faithful" believe in the Church's teachings anyway.
It was a Novus Ordo priest who refused him absolution and a Novus Ordo priest at the Basilica who told him that the Church does not give absolution to sinners who are not sorry for their sins.
Be still my heart! A Novus Ordo priest has a backbone!
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It is a sad state of affairs, indeed. People, like the unrepentant, selfish man in the article need to realize that you can't serve two masters, as Scripture would say. Either one is repentant of their sin and has God, or they're blind in their errors and don't.
Says the guy who just endorsed fag "marriage" in the anonymous subforum... And then asked for his own banning?
Impy, is this your latest iteration?
My cousin got on my account and posted that malarkey. I'd rather be dead than be a modernist, frankly. Please move on.
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It is a sad state of affairs, indeed. People, like the unrepentant, selfish man in the article need to realize that you can't serve two masters, as Scripture would say. Either one is repentant of their sin and has God, or they're blind in their errors and don't.
Says the guy who just endorsed fag "marriage" in the anonymous subforum... And then asked for his own banning?
Impy, is this your latest iteration?
My cousin got on my account and posted that malarkey. I'd rather be dead than be a modernist, frankly. Please move on.
Uh-huh.
What an unfortunate turn of events to occur only three posts into your time here.
Here's hoping your "cousin" doesn't also have access to your debit card PIN.
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Bishop Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Illinois, has given his support to a priest who refused to administer Communion to Senator Dick Durbin.
After a priest of the Springfield archdiocese withheld the Eucharist from the Illinois lawmaker, who supports legal abortion, Bishop Paprocki wrote to a local pro-life activist to say that he supported the priest’s decision. The bishop’s letter, which was obtained by journalist Matt Abbott, read in part:
Senator Durbin was informed several years ago by his pastor at Blessed Sacrament Parish here in Springfield that he was not permitted to receive Holy Communion per canon 915 of theCode of Canon Law. My predecessor upheld that decision and it remains in effect. It is my understanding that the senator is complying with that decision here in the Diocese of Springfield in Illinois.
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21016
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Bishop Thomas J. Paprocki of Springfield, Illinois, who is well known for his fervent defence of the right to life and the natural family, has sent out a strong message, publicly announcing his support for priests who call themselves Catholics but refuse to administer Communion to Catholic politicians who favour policies that go against the Church’s teaching.
According to Lifesitenews, the prelate wrote to a pro-life activist explaining that he fully supports the decision taken by a priest in his diocese to deny the Eucharist to Senator Dick Durbin, a Democrat from Illinois. Durbin has a 100% rating from NARAL Pro-Choice America and Planned Parenthood which favours abortion.
The content of Bishop Paprocki’s email was published by Catholic commentator Matt Abbott. “Senator Durbin was informed several years ago by his pastor at Blessed Sacrament Parish here in Springfield that he was not permitted to receive Holy Communion per canon 915 of the Code of Canon Law,” Paprocki wrote. “My predecessor upheld that decision and it remains in effect. It is my understanding that the senator is complying with that decision here in the Diocese of Springfield in Illinois,” the prelate wrote.
Canon 915 stipulates that “Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.” The local diocese explained that canon 915 leaves it up to the individual ministers to decide when to deny someone Communion, whereas canon 916 leaves the decision up to the faithful, in cases where they are conscious of having committed a grave sin. Naturally, this is the subject of much debate in the Church because some bishops claim that to deny someone Communion would turn the Eucharist into a political weapon. But as others rightly say, denying the Eucharist to someone who has sinned gravely is an act of charity because it prevents the individual in question from committing sacrilege. It also prevents a scandal in the Christian community.
In 2004, the then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, gave a very thorough response to this, making specific reference to abortion and euthanasia. “The Church teaches that abortion or euthanasia is a grave sin. The Encyclical Letter Evangelium vitae, with reference to judicial decisions or civil laws that authorize or promote abortion or euthanasia, states that there is a "grave and clear obligation to oppose them by conscientious objection. [...] In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to 'take part in a propaganda campaign in favour of such a law or vote for it’"
“Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person’s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his Pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church’s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist,” Ratzinger added. If “precautionary measures have not had their effect” or if “they were not possible”, the priest should refuse the person in question the Eucharist. “This decision, properly speaking, is not a sanction or a penalty. Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgment on the person’s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.”
The letter Ratzinger addressed to Cardinal McCarrick was leaked to the press and published and its authenticity confirmed. But the points mentioned are not widely or uniformly practiced. The Prefect of the Signatura, Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, is one of its biggest supporters, stressing that denying Communion in certain cases is not a punishment but an act of “pastoral charity” for the above-mentioned reasons. Given his position, Burke can be considered one of the foremost authorities on Canon law. But a decision of this kind would require great courage on the Bishop’s part and could lead to politicians arguing over it or using it for their own ends. This would explain why the Paprockis out there are so few.
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/world-news/detail/articolo/usa-stati-uniti-estados-unidos-33268/
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Reporters Without Borders, an organization that monitors attacks on the freedom of the press, has named a Vietnamese priest one of its 100 “information heroes” because of his work amid Communist government harassment.
In its citation, Reporters Without Borders noted that Father Anton le Ngoc Thanh
is a journalist and a Catholic priest. His work for Vietnam Redemporist News, a Catholic news organization for which he has worked since the 1990s, has caused him numerous problems with the Vietnamese authorities. In 2012 he was stopped for questioning on his way to Bac Lieu in the south of the country, where a woman had set fire to herself in protest against her daughter, the blogger Ta Phong Tan, being put on trial. He was held for several hours for causing a traffic accident while travelling on foot.
He was arrested again last year during a demonstration in support of the blogger and activist Dinh Nhat Uy, convicted for organizing a campaign for the release of his jailed younger brother. Thanh is under constant police surveillance and is frequently prevented from covering and publicizing the human rights abuses that he has witnessed.
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21343
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poche, you give good examples as to the fact that there is no unity of faith in the Conciliar sect. There are most likely still some Catholics left in the clergy of that sect, though the numbers are exceedingly small. Clearly, some priests at least want to be Catholic. Whether they are or not is a different story. But you illustrate why no one can, as of yet, judge the Conciliar sect as completely non-Catholic as you can, say, the Presbyterians.
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Jerzy Popiełuszko (Polish pronunciation: [ˈjɛʐɨ popʲɛˈwuʂkɔ]; 14 September 1947[1] – 19 October 1984) was a Roman Catholic priest from Poland, associated with the Solidarity union. He was murdered by three agents of the Polish communist internal intelligence agency, the Służba Bezpieczeństwa, (English: Security Service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs) who were shortly thereafter tried and convicted of the murder. He has been recognized as a martyr by the Catholic Church, and was beatified on 6 June 2010.[2]
Born in Okopy near Suchowola, Jerzy Popiełuszko was a charismatic priest who was first sent to strikers in the Warsaw Steelworks. Thereafter he was associated with workers and trade unionists from the Solidarity movement who opposed the Communist regime in Poland.
He was a staunch anti-communist, and in his sermons, interwove spiritual exhortations with political messages, criticizing the Communist system and motivating people to protest. During the period of martial law, the Catholic Church was the only force that could voice protest comparatively openly, with the regular celebration of Mass presenting opportunities for public gatherings in churches.
Popiełuszko's sermons were routinely broadcast by Radio Free Europe, and thus became famous throughout Poland for their uncompromising stance against the regime. The Służba Bezpieczeństwa tried to silence or intimidate him. When those techniques did not work, they fabricated evidence against him; he was arrested in 1983, but soon released on intervention of the clergy and pardoned by an amnesty.
Assassination[edit]A car accident was set up to kill Jerzy Popiełuszko on 13 October 1984 but he escaped it. The alternative plan was to kidnap him and it was carried out on 19 October 1984. The priest was beaten and murdered by three Security Police officers. Then, his body was dumped into the Vistula Water Reservoir near Włocławek from where it was recovered on 30 October 1984.[3]
News of the political murder caused an uproar throughout Poland, and the murderers and one of their superiors were convicted of the crime. More than 250,000 people, including Lech Wałęsa, attended his funeral on 3 November 1984. Despite the murder and its repercussions, the Communist regime remained in power until 1989. Popiełuszko's murderers - Captain Grzegorz Piotrowski, Leszek Pękala, Waldemar Chmielewski and Colonel Adam Pietruszka (responsible for giving them the order to kill) - were jailed but released later as part of an amnesty.[3]
Popiełuszko became a recipient of the Order of the White Eagle (posthumous, 2009).[4]
Media[edit]Noted Polish composer Andrzej Panufnik wrote his Bassoon Concerto (1985) in memory of Popiełuszko, and the work is very specifically inspired by Popiełuszko's work and death.[5]
Christopher Lambert played a character inspired by Popiełuszko in the film To Kill a Priest.
A track entitled "Homily to Popiełuszko" is featured on the B-side to the album Flajelata (1986) by Muslimgauze. The entire B-side of that album is dedicated to all dissidents from the Soviet Union.
Ronald Harwood's docuмentary drama The Deliberate Death of a Polish Priest was premiered at the Almeida Theatre in 1985 October — an early example of a theatre transcript of a trial, in this case the trial of Popiełuszko's murderers.
A movie, Popiełuszko, docuмenting the life and death of Popiełuszko was released in Poland in February 2009.
Another film, Jerzy Popieluszko: Messenger of the Truth, was produced by Paul G. Hensler in 2013.
Monuments[edit]A monument to Fr. Popiełuszko in the form of a symbolic gravestone in the shape of a cross was erected by Chicago's Polish community in the garden of memory next to St. Hyacinth Basilica.
A monument to Fr. Popiełuszko in the form of a bust bearing his likeness with a chain wrapped about his neck was erected on the property of Saint Hedwig Catholic Church in Trenton, New Jersey.
A section of McCarren Park in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, a historically Polish community, is named for Fr. Popiełuszko and features a stone bust bearing his likeness.
Popieluszko Court in Hartford, Connecticut USA was named in his memory. The SS. Cyril & Methodius Church is located on this street, serving as an important cornerstone for the area's Roman Catholic Polish-American immigrant community. The street intersects with Charter Oak Boulevard, with the main entrance to the parking lot of the Polish National Home of Hartford across the street at the end of Popieluszko Court.
The rock that was used to kill Popiełuszko was placed in the Basilica of St. Bartholomew on the Island as a relic of a 20th-century martyr part of the memorial to 20th- and 21st- century martytrs.[6]
Beatification and Canonisation[edit]In 1997, the Roman Catholic Church started the process of his beatification and by 2008 he had Servant of God status. On 19 December 2009 it was announced that Pope Benedict XVI had approved the decree of beatification of Father Popiełuszko.[7] He was beatified on 6 June 2010 in Warsaw's Piłsudski Square. His mother, Marianna Popiełuszko was present at the event.[8] More than 100,000 people attended the open-air mass in the Polish capital Warsaw to beatify Father Jerzy Popieluszko. Poland Post issued a set of stamps on that same day to mark the beatification.[9]
In October 2013, Cardinal Kazimierz Nycz - the Archbishop of Warsaw, the diocese where Popiełuszko was killed - announced that a miracle attributed to the intercession of the Polish priest has been identified and confirmed in France. Thus, Nycz predicts that Popiełuszko will likely be canonised (declared a saint by the Vatican) soon.[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Popie%C5%82uszko
This was a priest who led the resistance to evil in his country
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Today is the feast of St Christopher Magallanes and his companions, martyrs of Mexico, twenty-two priests and three laymen. I have blogged on these martyrs before, or at least on one of them, St Toribio Romo who was martyred in front of members of his family in 1928. Each of the twenty-five martyrs celebrated today have their own story and reveal that heroism which is be part and parcel of the Christian life.
Given issues we face today, I would like to highlight another of the martyrs from the group: St Mateo Correa Magallanes (no relation to St Christopher as far as I know). St Mateo was born in 1866 in Tepechitlan. In 1881 he entered seminary assisted by a scholarship for his fees. He was ordained priest in 1893. Among his appointments was parish priest of Concepcion del Oro and Colotlan. His claim to fame in these early years of his priesthood was his administering First Holy Communion to Blessed Miguel Pro on the 19th March 1898. At some point Fr Mateo joined the Knights of Columbus.When the government's persecution of the Church began in 1910, Fr Mateo went into hiding, as many did. Later, however, he took up an appointment as parish priest of Valparaiso in 1926.
Before long he was arrested on charges of being in league with the Cristeros. It sees there was not enough evidence to convict him and he was released. However the authorities kept their eyes on him. His health also began to fail at this time and by the following year he was quite frail though he was still only 60. As he was on his way to bring Viaticuм to a lady who was dying he was arrested again. He was once again charged with being part of the Cristero movement. The commander, General Eulogio Ortiz, who had him arrested had been furious at the priest's release the year before and this time he was intent on making the charges stick this time.
Fr Mateo was imprisoned to await trial. In the meantime a number of Cristeros were condemned to death, and the commander Ortiz asked the priest to hear the confessions of those about to die. This was later revealed not to an act of charity towards the condemned, but a ruse to get information from them as they were about to die. After Fr Mateo had heard their confessions, Ortiz ordered him to reveal what the Cristeros had confessed: Fr Mateo refused. Putting a gun to the priest's head Ortiz told him if he did not reveal what was confessed he would be shot. Fr Mateo stood firm: the seal could not be broken. Furious, Ortiz ordered the priest's execution, and at dawn on the 6th February 1927 in a cemetery in Durango, Fr Mateo was shot through the head. Beatified in 1992, he was canonised in 2000 by St John Paul II.
St Mateo was a good, humble priest devoted to his flock. Among the martyrs today we find many other examples of good, holy men who sought simply to be faithful priests. May those martyr-saints, who now belong to all of us, not just to Mexico, watch over all our priests in these times and obtain from the Lord the graces we need to seek to be true to Christ and the Gospel.
http://fatherdirector.blogspot.com/
I want someone like him to hear my confessions
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The Diocese of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, has vigorously denounced a ruling by the state’s highest court that would compel a priest to violate the seal of confession or face possible imprisonment.
The Louisiana Supreme Court, in a May ruling, overturned a lower court’s decision and ordered a hearing on a lawsuit brought by parents of a girl who was allegedly molested by an adult man. The parents have named the Baton Rouge diocese and a priest, Father Jeff Bayhi, as defendants in the suit. They claim that when the girl mentioned the man’s sɛҳuąƖ advances in the course of making her confession, Father Bayhi advised her not to report the incident.
Father Bayhi, bound by the seal of confession, cannot report what the girl told him, or what he said to her.
The man whose alleged advances form the original basis for the lawsuit was under criminal investigation for sɛҳuąƖ abuse when he died in 2009. The girl’s parents filed their lawsuit shortly thereafter.
The Louisiana Supreme Court has ordered hearing to determine whether the girl mentioned alleged sɛҳuąƖ abuse in her confession, “and if so, what the contents of any such confessions were.” The court claimed—inaccurately—that the seal of confession protects only the penitent. Since the girl had waived her right to secrecy, the court said, Father Bayhi should be required to testify about the confession.
Correcting the court’s error, the Baton Rouge diocese said that “the seal of confession is absolute and inviolable,” and Father Bayhi is prohibited by canon law from divulging anything that he heard in the course of a confession. The court’s decision “assaults the heart of a fundamental doctrine of the Catholic faith,” the diocesan statement said.
“This matter cuts to the core of the Catholic faith, and for a civil court to inquire as to whether or not a factual situation establishes the Sacrament of Confession is a clear and unfettered violation of the Establishment Clause of the Constitution of the United States,” the diocese charged.
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21954
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An Italian priest says that he is not concerned about reports that a powerful Mafia figure wanted to have him killed.
Father Luigi Ciotti admitted that it was “very significant” that the imprisoned “boss of bosses, Toto Riina, spoke of having him killed. But the priest said that it was “very strange” that Riina’s threats, which were captured in a wiretapped conversation more than a year ago, have only now been brought to his attention.
Father Ciotti has plagued Mafia leaders through his leadership of “Libera,” an organization devoted to converting property held by organized-crime figures into legitimate businesses and public institutions. “For me,” he told La Repubblica, “the commitment has always been an act of faith in the Gospel, to denounce injustice and violence, to stand on the side of the victims, the poor, the excluded.”
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=22451
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The Diocese of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, has vigorously denounced a ruling by the state’s highest court that would compel a priest to violate the seal of confession or face possible imprisonment.
Any update on this particular case?
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The Diocese of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, has vigorously denounced a ruling by the state’s highest court that would compel a priest to violate the seal of confession or face possible imprisonment.
Any update on this particular case?
An appeal has been made.
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JezusDeKoning says:
It is a sad state of affairs, indeed. People, like the unrepentant, selfish man in the article need to realize that you can't serve two masters, as Scripture would say. Either one is repentant of their sin and has God, or they're blind in their errors and don't.
BTNYC says:
Says the guy who just endorsed fag "marriage" in the anonymous subforum... And then asked for his own banning?
Impy, is this your latest iteration?
JezusDeKonong says:
My cousin got on my account and posted that malarkey. I'd rather be dead than be a modernist, frankly. Please move on.
Uh-huh.
What an unfortunate turn of events to occur only three posts into your time here.
Here's hoping your "cousin" doesn't also have access to your debit card PIN.
JezusDeKoning was outed here by BTNYC from almost day one. No response. Only crickets.
I always thought JezusDeKoning was peculiar with his seemingly "split personality". Some days, his posts are akin to a social justice warrior, and other days, he's trying too hard to impress trads on this forum by parroting traditional Catholic thought.
Is JezusDeKoning an imposter and 5th columnist?
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Croix/Quid, we all know it's you. Only saying this once: no ad hominems and targeting other users. In all things, charity.
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Interesting exchange between JezusDeKoning and BTNYC in first 10 comments.
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poche, you give good examples as to the fact that there is no unity of faith in the Conciliar sect. There are most likely still some Catholics left in the clergy of that sect, though the numbers are exceedingly small. Clearly, some priests at least want to be Catholic. Whether they are or not is a different story. But you illustrate why no one can, as of yet, judge the Conciliar sect as completely non-Catholic as you can, say, the Presbyterians.
If this is true (and I think it is true) doesn't that make it problematic to call it a sect? Like, Presbyterians are a sect. The Novus Ordo is a mix of Catholics, badly catechized Catholics, and non-Catholics who intentionally go against the teachings of the Church.