That's nice, Poche.

That's nice, Poche.

Don't encourage him, he clutters this forum enough already.

Why doesn't he threaten them with excommunication? I'll tell you why. Most bishops are clones of Paul VI when it comes to relations with the world.

This article on Paul VI is an autobiography of almost every bishop in the Church today. http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page83/paul_vi_beatified.html

The Cardinal may have done good things but he still needs our prayers, especially from those in his diocese.

In the case of the teachers union it is really a secular association. It wouldn't do any good to threaten them with excommunication.   OECTA, however, is not the Catholic teachers; it is a union,” he added. “Its competence is limited to collective bargaining, and the services any union provides to its members. When it goes beyond those areas, it can easily go wrong, as it has in the decision of the OECTA delegates to participate in this event. This decision shows that they and the OECTA leadership have an inadequate and mistaken understanding of their faith.”
in the case of Argentina. Pope Francis when he was bishop of Buenos Aires did just that. He said that any lawmaker who voted for abortion should consider himself excommunicated.

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. . . Pope Francis when he was bishop of Buenos Aires did just that. He said that any lawmaker who voted for abortion should consider himself excommunicated.

Is that why Biden and Peℓσѕι had to attend Frank's inaugural "mass" and receive "communion" in disguise?

I think that they were able to recieve communion because the Europeans didn't know who they were and that they were told not to recieve Communion.

The Catholic bishops of Papua New Guinea have issued a public warning against “dangerous trends” toward acceptance of abortion and sterilization.

In an open letter to government leaders, the bishops said that their relationship with the state has always been based on mutual respect, and pointed to Church-state cooperation in the fields of health, education, and social services. However, the bishops said that they are compelled to speak out on moral issues, as they have spoken in the past in opposition to capital punishment.

In that context, the bishops remarked that the country’s leaders “face great pressure”—including pressure from outside the country—to end the ban on abortion in Papua New Guinea. “We pray that our leaders will never bow to this temptation,” they write.

The bishops go on to decry the “political ideology that links development with population control,” and the willingness to invite organizations to “temporarily sterilize great numbers of women” in order to slow population growth. That approach ignores the welfare of women, the bishops write, and fails to recognize the rich resources of the country.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21421

Why are you posting all of this Novus Ordo junk, Posche???  We are traditional here and could care less about these announcements! : :tinfoil: :tv-disturbed:

Are you saying that you think it is junk when the bishops of a particular country are calling on the people to resist the pro abortion pro sterilization movements in their country?

Bishop Michael Barber of Oakland, California, who has been roundly criticized for including a code of personal conduct in contracts for Catholic-school teachers, defended his policy in an interview with the National Catholic Register.

Bishop Barber, who described himself as a “career classroom teacher,” said that purpose of the revised contracts was to “set an expectation.” He explained: “Every teacher is a role model for the students, whether they are teaching P.E. or math. The classroom is their pulpit, and they will help form their students as young adults.”

Rejecting the idea that his policy was a form of interference in teachers’ private lives, the bishop said:


What you do in your private life is between you and God. But what you do in your private life that becomes public — either because you put something on Facebook or let all the kids know about it in class —becomes a source of scandal, and it directly affects your responsibilities as a teacher.
The broader purpose of the new policy, the bishop said, was to underline the Catholic identity of parochial schools. “When things drift, alternative visions replace Catholic identity,” he said. When a clear Catholic identity is lacking, he remarked, the result is an “untenable situation” in which individuals feel free to set their own rules. He reported that the controversy over his new policies had been “spurred by a few teachers and some parents who are not in agreement with most teachings of the Church.”

Bishop Barber, a Navy chaplain, also revealed to the Register that he has “kept my commission active” and is using his vacation days to fulfill his military obligations.


http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21591