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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #660 on: May 18, 2017, 07:07:07 PM »
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    So which one is this, CGI or Photoshop?


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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #661 on: May 18, 2017, 08:33:17 PM »
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    So which one is this, CGI or Photoshop?


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    Do you believe this is the Virgin Mary?


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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #662 on: May 18, 2017, 09:40:51 PM »
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    This is an image from an untrustworthy website, if that makes any difference to you.
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    It's a photograph composed in a studio, which see.


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    Photographs taken from two different angles!
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    Any more questions?
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    You'll have to do a lot better than that to try to trip me up, buster.
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    BTW this statue is not done in the traditional manner. But you probably don't know why, do you?
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #663 on: May 18, 2017, 09:49:33 PM »
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #664 on: May 18, 2017, 10:13:07 PM »
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    Do you believe this is the Pope?
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    You are proving my point quite well; thank you. 8)
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #665 on: May 18, 2017, 10:40:11 PM »
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    You've demonstrated that you have no idea why your picture is not of a traditional Virgin Mary statue.
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    Nor do you have any answer for the several other questions I have posted.
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    You don't know the answers.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #666 on: May 19, 2017, 05:10:01 AM »
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    • Flat Earth Map



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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #667 on: May 19, 2017, 11:14:48 AM »
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  • Flat Earth under the "   dome"

    "Water Always seek s its own level   " No getting around it "

    Thanks for posting the above image. It makes sense that water always seeks its own level. Water is a very heavy substance. I know that it is supposedly "gravity" that keeps the water "in" on a globe earth, but that doesn't really make sense to me.

    On the upper planets, there is evidence that there is some frozen water, but nowhere on the other planets is water free-flowing, as on earth.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #668 on: May 21, 2017, 08:45:41 PM »
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    As the moon now passes its last quarter, the angle between the moon and sun continues to get smaller.
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    It is approaching the New Moon phase, when the angle between them shrinks to zero, that is, it would become zero under a particular condition which occurs every so often, called an eclipse of the sun.
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    If there is no eclipse at the New Moon, then the angle between the sun and moon gets very small, down to just a few degrees, or one degree or even less.  There can only be a total solar eclipse at the moment of the New Moon.
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    With the "flat" earth model, none of this is happening, but we can literally see that it in fact DOES happen. Therefore the "flat" earth model is a myth.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #669 on: May 21, 2017, 08:51:03 PM »
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    You've demonstrated that you have no idea why your picture is not of a traditional Virgin Mary statue.
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    Nor do you have any answer for the several other questions I have posted.
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    You don't know the answers.
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    The feature common to the flat-earthers' replies is that they don't know any answers to these questions.
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    It is a dearth of knowledge in flat-earthism, an arid desert, a vacuum where facts belong.
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    And the curious thing is, they don't want to know the answers, apparently.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #670 on: May 21, 2017, 09:05:24 PM »
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     It makes sense that water always seeks its own level. Water is a very heavy substance.
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    The heaviness of water has nothing to do with the first statement. Only under particular conditions does water seek its own level. There must be a confinement, for example. Water unconfined and in a free-fall environment does not seek its own level, but floats around in the air eventually forming a sphere or a globe. This globular action is due to the cohesion of the water molecules as well as the inherent surface tension , and it happens to any liquid substance in the same situation, none of which "seek their own level."
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    Surface tension is a phenomenon which causes the meniscus in small samples like a drinking glass or a test tube, under different conditions such as those found on the surface of the earth, such as a common laboratory.
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    These substances, such as oil or mineral spirits (which are lighter than water) also form a globular sphere, and do not seek their own level; so do mercury or liquid iron (both much heavier than water). 
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    Therefore the statement that "water always seeks its own level" is false.
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    If this were your answer on a basic physics class test you would get marked off for being incorrect.
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    Flat-earthers would do really poorly in any basic physics class. 
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    There are no physicists who believe in a "flat earth." They would have to be literally insane first.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #671 on: May 21, 2017, 10:31:01 PM »
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  • I never realized that there was such a strong belief among some traditional Catholics that the Earth is flat. And yet, numerous commercial direct flights going from Australia to South America take place all the time, running within a bit more than half a day's time and no mid-air refuelling.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #672 on: May 21, 2017, 11:37:12 PM »
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  • I never realized that there was such a strong belief among some traditional Catholics that the Earth is flat. And yet, numerous commercial direct flights going from Australia to South America take place all the time, running within a bit more than half a day's time and no mid-air refuelling.
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    Flat-earthers have posted here claiming that no direct flights between S. America and Australia take place, and have shown there are videos where this proposition is promoted. They have said that a flight for example from Argentina to Australia crosses over some city in the mid-east (Arabia as I recall) as a refueling stop. They claim this proves that the route they're taking is a much straighter line than it would be to take a route that crosses the south Atlantic and the Indian Ocean.
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    (Obviously, this S. Am. to Austr. is a flight of longer distance and going the opposite direction from the one you mention:  Austr. to S. Am.)
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    However, they have failed to recognize that the shorter Great Circle route for this journey would take them over the South Pole region which is not temperature-friendly for commercial jumbo jets, and the fuel consumption (partially due to the need to heat the aircraft while flying through such a cold zone) would necessitate a re-fueling stop in Antarctica, which would be extremely expensive, if not well-nigh impossible.
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    The problem reduces to the flat-earthers' refusal to recognize the reality of any Great Circle route, since they claim that the earth is flat and THEREFORE no such "Great Circle" can exist.
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #673 on: May 21, 2017, 11:39:34 PM »
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    Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
    « Reply #674 on: May 22, 2017, 12:52:57 AM »
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  • Great Circle Sydney to Santiago on "Google Earth"
        about 11,400 km




    Shortest Sydney to Santiago on "Gleason Map"
        about 25,400 km

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