ho ho.
Neil are you are aware that by now you have lost almost all credibility? You can't respond to our responses.

you know, I have this image you with an angry look on your face, frantically looking up all the anti-flat earth videos on youtube you can find.

You are totally uncritical in your analysis of these videos. That's why you don't respond to our responses to them.

About the first video, he states that there is speherical excess, but doesn't give us any practical examples or experience of engineers who have done it. It exists only in a textbook.

Here is an interview with an engineer of many years experience who says that they do not in practice measure curvature at all.



By the way, are you aware that engineers discount curvature for the first 20km squared? very convenient.


Another mistake he made in his video was talking about the dip every 69 miles. I'm sorry but that is beyond idiotic in his analysis. You can get the forumula for curvature with one simple google search.

8 inches per mile squared. If you don't square it, you end up with a straight line. Think about it.

I get the feeling in talking to neil that I am talking to one of these chat bots. No matter what you say, it will just come back to the default answer. Poor guy. He needs prayers.

I'll respond to the second video if I get time.

When you expand this triangle sufficiently, you can get three 90-degree angles.
Anyone with familiarity with basic geometry knows that a triangle cannot have 3 right angles.
But on a sphere, you can have a triangle with 3 right angles, with spherical excess.

This has to go down on record as one of the dumbest things ever written at Cathinfo.

Here's a video with two simple experiments you can do at home, with a clear sky.



If you really want to know the truth, you can do these two experiments yourself and then you will know. Of course, flat earthers don't like to know the truth (apparently) so you won't do them, correct? 

ho ho.
Neil are you are aware that by now you have lost almost all credibility? You can't respond to our responses.

you know, I have this image you with an angry look on your face, frantically looking up all the anti-flat earth videos on youtube you can find.

You are totally uncritical in your analysis of these videos. That's why you don't respond to our responses to them.

About the first video, he states that there is speherical excess, but doesn't give us any practical examples or experience of engineers who have done it. It exists only in a textbook.

Here is an interview with an engineer of many years experience who says that they do not in practice measure curvature at all.



By the way, are you aware that engineers discount curvature for the first 20km squared? very convenient.


Another mistake he made in his video was talking about the dip every 69 miles. I'm sorry but that is beyond idiotic in his analysis. You can get the forumula for curvature with one simple google search.

8 inches per mile squared. If you don't square it, you end up with a straight line. Think about it.

I get the feeling in talking to neil that I am talking to one of these chat bots. No matter what you say, it will just come back to the default answer. Poor guy. He needs prayers.

I'll respond to the second video if I get time.

You have made a number of typos, I guess. But I'm presuming they were accidental. Maybe that's a mistake of my own, I don't know.

In any event, the guy you refer to in the video who claims to be an "engineer" is faking it because all engineers know there are two grades or degrees of surveying, the lower one of which does not consider the curvature of the earth because it's too small. The higher one deals with larger distances like the perimeter of a state or a national park or the southwest USA or an entire continent, and that HAS to consider the curvature or else they'll have incorrect data.  

In California, since the state is so large north and south, there are three benchmarks for real estate because if they used only one the error would be too much for accuracy of property lines. If the earth were flat, they would not need more than one benchmark for real estate property descriptions. Every deed of property in Calif. has on it the name of the benchmark used in the description.

I know it is of no use, but AGAIN, if you could please try (I know it's so hard for you) to refrain from personal insult, it would be a big help. But on second thought, go ahead and continue to post how you think I must look or how I must think or how I must feel, or why I've done something or not in your estimation, because that way you expose your own character for all to see.

But if you'd like to make a case for yourself, then measure the angle between the sun and moon at the next quarter moon, which will be on April 3rd, as the video I posted above describes. Come back here, if you are capable that is, and post what your measurement was. Take your measurement in the late afternoon about a half hour before sunset, when you'll find the moon directly overhead and slightly to the north. Let's see if you can do something constructive for a change, instead of just complaining as if you were a woman.

Truth is Eternal and Neil,

Could it be that since the ancient Hebrew cosmology believed in a flat earth (according to OT scripture), and since the Muslims borrow quite heavily from the Old Testament, that this means that they believe as the ancient Hebrews rightly believed?

Though I seriously doubt that most or even many Muslims really believe in a flat earth.

You have made a number of typos, I guess. But I'm presuming they were accidental. Maybe that's a mistake of my own, I don't know.

In any event, the guy you refer to in the video who claims to be an "engineer" is faking it because all engineers know there are two grades or degrees of surveying, the lower one of which does not consider the curvature of the earth because it's too small. The higher one deals with larger distances like the perimeter of a state or a national park or the southwest USA or an entire continent, and that HAS to consider the curvature or else they'll have incorrect data. 

In California, since the state is so large north and south, there are three benchmarks for real estate because if they used only one the error would be too much for accuracy of property lines. If the earth were flat, they would not need more than one benchmark for real estate property descriptions. Every deed of property in Calif. has on it the name of the benchmark used in the description.

I know it is of no use, but AGAIN, if you could please try (I know it's so hard for you) to refrain from personal insult, it would be a big help. But on second thought, go ahead and continue to post how you think I must look or how I must think or how I must feel, or why I've done something or not in your estimation, because that way you expose your own character for all to see.

But if you'd like to make a case for yourself, then measure the angle between the sun and moon at the next quarter moon, which will be on April 3rd, as the video I posted above describes. Come back here, if you are capable that is, and post what your measurement was. Take your measurement in the late afternoon about a half hour before sunset, when you'll find the moon directly overhead and slightly to the north. Let's see if you can do something constructive for a change, instead of just complaining as if you were a woman.

Good to see you are responding to me. Though not substantially. You still have not answered where hundreds of feet of that mountain came from. They're suppose to be behind the curve.

The video for anyone not up to speed




Do you realise, that ultimately anything to do with the sky cannot disprove a proof of the earth? Our proofs are principally based on the earth. That why we are flat EARTHers.

I wasn't insulting at all. It is you who are insulting by talking down to us constantly.

I have a bridge to sell you!

Surveyors, engineers and architects are never required to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their projects. Canals, railways, bridges and tunnels for example are always cut and laid horizontally, often over hundreds of miles without any allowance for curvature.