I bet international Jewry will use this massacre to further advance the perverse "gαy" agenda, making the sodomites to continue glorying in their victim status and the emotion - ridden masses feeling sorry for them and supporting the revolting vice.

Silly liberals will also be making use of this, in their anti-gun campaign. Blaming not the shooter (or Islam), but the gun.  

At the same time, millions of Christians are being massacred around the world and babies murdered by the millions in the womb but the Jew-owned media do not cover this. We will be hearing about this anti-sodomite "hate" crime for months though and it will pass to history. It will be another political way to silence and persecute any "hateful" organization. The Roman Catholic Church included.

Not enough rubber gloves to take care of all the blood and mess!  Can you imagine being an emt and told where you are to go. Boy! that would make me cringe!

I bet international Jewry will use this massacre to further advance the perverse "gαy" agenda, making the sodomites to continue glorying in their victim status and the emotion - ridden masses feeling sorry for them and supporting the revolting vice.

Silly liberals will also be making use of this, in their anti-gun campaign. Blaming not the shooter (or Islam), but the gun.  

At the same time, millions of Christians are being massacred around the world and babies murdered by the millions in the womb but the Jew-owned media do not cover this. We will be hearing about this anti-sodomite "hate" crime for months though and it will pass to history. It will be another political way to silence and persecute any "hateful" organization. The Roman Catholic Church included.

That was my very first thought.  

Quote from: OHCA (Jun 12, 2016, 2:06 pm)

Quote from: Charlemagne (Jun 12, 2016, 1:53 pm)

I wonder if Francis made it to "call to prayer" today.

This presents a conundrum for Frank--he is stuck between "call to prayer" and "who am I to judge? "

It wasn't as if he had to begin his decision process by being awakened by a frantic middle-of-night call.  News of the death-toll from "the most deadly shooting in American history" began to be reported ca. 10 a.m. EDT, corresponding to midafternoon in Vatican City, so at least he had the advantage of weighing his publicity options while being wide awake.  I wouldn't be at all shocked if I were to learn that "Pope Francis"  received his initial notification from close friends in the U.S. Novus Ordo lavender mafia.  Some might even have been vactioning at the notorious "gαy Days" in Orlando, which originated in annual preannounced single weeks of officially unofficial gatherings focused on--but not limited to--Disney World.

In particular, the site of the incident, which is a nightclub in a repurposed building south of downtown Orlando, promotes itself thus on its Web site[×]:

Quote from: pulseorlandoclub.com (search-engine summary before sunset today)

The hottest gαy bar in Orlando, Pulse [nightclub] offers live entertainment, tantalizing libations and three unique rooms for an unforgettable night of fun and fantasy.

Sooo, no!, this absolutely is not an incident terrorism that "could have happened anywhere" in the U.S.A.

I'd heard from a family member who's been glued to the live obsessively running t.v. news for hours, that "Pope Francis" sent a message of condolence, but I haven't yet heard any confirmation via 1 of the local news-radio, never mind useful details.  No confirmation on <http://www.news.va/en>, neither.

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Note ×: Quoted text is from the summary produced by the search engine I prefer; I did not visit the nightclub's Web site, and strongly prefer that "Pope Francis" give me no reason to do so.

Source:
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/06/12/pope_francis_decries_orlando_massacre_and_prays_for_victims/1236740

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(Vatican Radio) Vatican Weekend for June 11, 2016 features the audience of Pope Francis with pilgrims from across the world, a musical meditation on the Wedding at Cana, a look ahead to the upcoming pan-Orthodox meeting on the island of Crete and a tour of pagan and Christian Rome ...

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Pope Francis decries Orlando massacre and prays for victims
Friends and family members of victims embrace outside the Orlando Police Headquarters during the investigation of a shooting at the Pulse nightclub  - REUTERS
Friends and family members of victims embrace outside the Orlando Police Headquarters during the investigation of a shooting at the Pulse nightclub - REUTERS

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(Vatican Radio) Pope Francis is shaken and saddened by the ‘homicidal folly and senseless hatred’ that has left at least 50 people dead in an attack on a nightclub in Orlando, Florida.

A statement released  by the Holy See Press Office Director, Father Federico Lombardi SJ, on the Orlando massacre which has been described as the worst mass shooting in American history.

Please find below Vatican Radio’s translation of the statement:

The terrible massacre that has taken place in Orlando, with its dreadfully high number of innocent victims, has caused in Pope Francis, and in all of us, the deepest feelings of horror and condemnation, of pain and turmoil before this new manifestation of homicidal folly and senseless hatred. Pope Francis joins the families of the victims and all of the injured in prayer and in compassion. Sharing in their indescribable suffering he entrusts them to the Lord so they may find comfort. We all hope that ways may be found, as soon as possible, to effectively identify and contrast the causes of such terrible and absurd violence which so deeply upsets the desire for peace of the American people and of the whole of humanity.

As others have already said here, why don't we hear such language addressing the heinous, hideous, worldwide genocide known as "abortion?"

So long as abortion and the conspicuous heresy of the 21st century persist (giving obeisance to, or actively promoting the sin of Sodom in popular culture), the world continues to call down the wrath of God.  These are two of the 4 sins that cry to heaven for vengeance, and God has said, "Vengeance is Mine."

Why is the sin of Sodom one that cries down vengeance from heaven?  

It is the innocent victims of the children whose innocence is attacked by Sodomy, and their innocence cries for vengeance from heaven, since no one on earth can adequately defend the violation of their right to innocence.  

I have heard a number of radio programs in the past day addressing this massacre, all of which (with the exception of Catholic Radio, Immaculate Heart Radio) support the sin of Sodom and the so-called right of those 350 attendees at the Pulse Club in Orlando to gather and revel in their prurient interest.  One such program had two men discussing the topic, when one described a scene where he recently took his young son to a clothing store where they were assisted by a man "presenting himself as a woman."  The father said nothing about that while in the presence of the salesperson, but later when they were alone, he asked his son, who was about 9, if he knew what a transgender person is and his son casually replied, "Yeah."  Then his father asked him if he was aware that the salesperson who had helped them was a transgender man, dressed as a woman, and his son again replied curtly that he did.  When his father questioned him again, the son replied by asking why his father thinks it's a big deal.  

The point of the discussion was to express his observation that we now have a generation of children growing up who do not look at ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity as anything worth being concerned about, and that they do not understand why their parents are worried about it.  My impression of this is to say that what they are describing is the LOSS OF INNOCENCE of an entire generation.

If you homeschool your children they have at least some chance of keeping their innocence intact, but when they go out into the world they are going to be face-to-face with their own generation who will look down on them as being "cretins" or "throwbacks" or somehow substandard for harboring such "judgmental" views about how OTHER PEOPLE LIVE.  

They will be criticized for believing that the private behavior of others has any bearing on their own life.  This is because they do not understand that the sin of Sodom is a crime against all of humanity and that if it is allowed to fester and increase, which it WILL DO if left to our own fallen nature, it will eventually reach a point where God will be left to intervene as He has done in the past (the Biblical account of Sodom and Gomorrah is but one example but a most striking one -- there is a prophesy that says God will destroy the world by FIRE but He has promised to never again destroy the world by FLOOD).

[---FWIW I know the sentence from the Vatican is false where it says "... has caused in Pope Francis, and in all of us, the deepest feelings of horror and condemnation, of pain and turmoil...", because I know there are people who take no such view of this event and have said that they were actually not saddened at all by the news.  They think the "gαys" merely got what was coming to them.  To be clear, I do not share their view, but I thought it may be of interest to repeat it for sake of discussion here.  They say that even those present among the 350 attendees who were not ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and perhaps some of those were killed, were there "in the near occasion of sin" by being present among the openly ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ revelers, and thereby made themselves vulnerable to whatever might happen as a result, not necessarily a shooting or any other such violence, but in the very least, leaving themselves open to committing sin in their heart by being witness to depravity all around them.---]

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I hope that at least some of those who died repented and were saved though I doubt it because I think anyone who would go to such a place would be a very serious sinner unlikely to repent.

I share your hope, but from what I have heard, there has been no published evidence of any such conversions.  Of course, if there had been any, the MSM no doubt would not have reported it because it doesn't fit their criteria for relevant news.

As the 3 hours passed with the active shooter taking 'hostages' (for what reason, who knows?) some of them sent text messages to family and friends.  One such message was from a 30-year old man holed up in the restroom, to his mother, saying, "Mommy, I love you. He's in here with us and he is coming this way. I am going to die."  

It seems to me that those who died quickly were in such shock that they could not have been thinking clearly, and those who died slowly may have had more of a chance, but how would they have been thinking of their own sin at such a time?  I have not heard if any Catholic priests have been allowed to assist the dying!! Popular culture, in which they were immersed, says nothing of personal responsibility for sin nor gives any message of repentance.  They are totally stuck in a social milieu that says to follow your urges and to worship your passions, and how you FEEL is all that's important.

Here is a shocker for you.  I heard a radio announcer say that anyone who has already decided to have their own opinion on this event, without having spoken to anyone from the gαy community or from the transgender community is making a big mistake, because "That is the definition of ignorance."

IOW ignorance is defined by not allowing popular opinion to sway your own understanding of the truth.  IOW there is no objective truth.  IOW all truth is relative.  IOW all truth is subjective.

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A biography of Pope St. Pius V describes. . .

'One of the first blows Pius V dealt to vice was to banish men and women of light morals from the city. Those underestimating the Pope's resoluteness by appealing for such a surprising and drastic measure to be revoked were told that, on the contrary, rather than so much as appear to allow licentiousness of any kind in the holy city and capital of Christendom, he would transfer his court elsewhere.

Courtesans and prostitutes were given as alternative to banishment marriage or being put to live in a penitential institute. Some, accepting banishment, were killed by highwaymen. A number voluntarily reformed their lives and returned to the practice of their religion. But so deep-rooted was the evil that Pius had to counter it all through his reign. He had this reform much at heart and later persuaded a group of virtuous women to devote themselves wholly to the difficult work. Generous aid of every kind was provided for those who converted to a better way of living.

Grieved and indignant over the practice of adultery in Rome, Pius V could hardly be prevented from instituting the death penalty for it;  but he had culprits publicly punished irrespective of their position: A nobleman was sentenced to life imprisonment, a well known banker to flogging.

The penalty for sodomy was burning.

Disreputable taverns were closed, despite the plea that this was bad for business. To all criticism of such kind Pius replied that the good of souls must come before considerations of revenue.'

Deadliest Mass killing in USA?  Try the cινιℓ ωαr?

On a related note, someone asked this on another forum today: If this terrorist doesn't represent all muzzies, why do leftists claim he represents all gun owners?

That, I wish I knew. The overwhelming majority, 99.99999% of all gun owners on Earth, are not Salafist radical Muzzies who go into a nightclub and kill 50 people. Nor would ever.

Your average gun owner is simply trying to defend himself or his family with a very clear and very deserved right to own his weapon.