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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2020, 06:29:42 AM »
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  • I needn't respond to the forum's resident modernist shill, of course. If anything, the mere fact of his being opposed to me does credit to my position.

    Now be a good fellow and update everyone on your latest dalliance with fried chicken, black-eyed peas, chitterlings, and collard greens, all bathed in butter and roux.
    This made me  :laugh1: :laugh2:
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #16 on: April 26, 2020, 06:48:55 AM »
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  • Sins against charity are still sins sins.  
    Sooo, is Jesus committing a "sin" against charity here?
    This was a woman from a different tribe/race/ethnicity begging Jesus for help.. Jesus  not only ignored her, but actually referred to her as a dog.
    Now, if I didn't know any better and according to your judaized version of Christianity, I'd say Christ was very uncharitable here at one point and with his elitist reference to his own ethnicity, possibly a "racist". ::)
    Matthew 15:21-28 New International Version (NIV)
    The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
    21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon.22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
    23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
    24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
    25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
    26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
    27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
    28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.


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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #17 on: April 26, 2020, 10:19:32 AM »
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  • Sooo, is Jesus committing a "sin" against charity here?
    This was a woman from a different tribe/race/ethnicity begging Jesus for help.. Jesus  not only ignored her, but actually referred to her as a dog.
    Now, if I didn't know any better and according to your judaized version of Christianity, I'd say Christ was very uncharitable here at one point and with his elitist reference to his own ethnicity, possibly a "racist". ::)
    Matthew 15:21-28 New International Version (NIV)
    The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
    21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon.22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
    23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
    24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
    25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
    26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
    27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
    28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.

    How uncharitable! Our Lord used the "d-word!" And never apologized for it! Didn't He know that "people have died over that word?!"

    Why it's almost as if He was able to distinguish individuals from groups! Perhaps He could even recognize that exceptions prove rules, too!

    In other words, Our Lord might have realized that "Chinese people tend to be short" is a true statement, despite the existence of statistical outliers like Yao Ming!

    B-but what about our precious Jєωιѕн Marxist weltanschauung? "Racism" is the ultimate evil! Hitler is the new Satan! Nationalism is the enemy of Patriotism!*


    * A literal declaration made by Rothschild stooge Emmanuel Macron, BTW.

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #18 on: April 26, 2020, 02:38:10 PM »
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  • Yes, it's become my "pet" subject for the past year or two, but I'm repeatedly reminded that this subject bears repeated remindings:

    "Racism" is a moral concept invented in the 20th Century by Marxist Jews.

    Catholics are not obligated to accept moral concepts invented by Christ's enemies. In fact, we are obligated to REJECT them.

    "Mit Brennender Sorge," Poche's interminable nd inevitable spamming of it notwithstanding, is not a recognition of the "reality" of the non-existent Jєωιѕн Marxist "sin" of racism. On the contrary, it affirms race - along with the people and the state - as a "fundamental value of the human community," with a "necessary and honorable... function in worldly things." That affirmation alone, according to the Jєωιѕн-Marxist weltanschauung behind the concept of "Racism," renders the Encyclical and its author "Racist." After all, "race is just a social construct," right, goyim?

    The encyclical warns against exalting these "fundamental values" to "idolatrous levels." The only group I can think of that's genuinely guilty of exalting race to idolatrous levels, would be the very ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan that so despises us unwashed goyim chattel that they would rather call the Blood of the Messiah upon themselves as an eternal curse, than to accept that God's grace of salvation has been opened by that selfsame Messiah to all - of every race - and not just to them.

    But loving one's own race above others? Recognizing that talents and weaknesses are not evenly distributed among the races? Not wanting to live among members of an alien race? None of those qualifies as "exaltation to idolatrous levels." It's mere human nature.

    Cast off any claim that Jєωιѕн Marxists have on your intellects, friends. "Racism" has all the objective moral reality of "sexism," "homophobia," and "transphobia." Accuse no one of it, and accept all accusations of it lobbed against you with a shrug and a smile.
    Very well said. Thank you 
    I completely agree. I am of the view that in our world, the utopian vision of those who believe that multiculturalism, miscegenation, and egalitarianism are the way to progress is greatly misguided.
    Human nature is what it is and we cannot change that reality. Being Catholics we can certainly temper our natures, but we cannot completely destroy it.
    Races are by nature of different abilities, temperaments, and natures.
    Seeing this reality is not racist at all. Nor is the desire of a people to live under one nation with their own race/ethnicity. I believe that is better for everyone in the long run.
    While I do not believe, as the Church also teaches, that mixed race marriages are inherently evil, I do believe that they are generally a very bad idea and that one should marry from his/her own people and culture. Unique individual situations may exist where it may be possible, but such a rare occurance cannot be generalized.
    Lastly, I do believe that certain races are inherently prone to certain virtues and vices as males and females are prone to certain virtues and vices as well. I do not think this as racist or sexist.

    Simply reality.
    Wonder is the desire for knowledge

    St. Thomas Aquinas

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #19 on: April 26, 2020, 03:42:49 PM »
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  • Very well said. Thank you
    I completely agree. I am of the view that in our world, the utopian vision of those who believe that multiculturalism, miscegenation, and egalitarianism are the way to progress is greatly misguided.
    Human nature is what it is and we cannot change that reality. Being Catholics we can certainly temper our natures, but we cannot completely destroy it.
    Races are by nature of different abilities, temperaments, and natures.
    Seeing this reality is not racist at all. Nor is the desire of a people to live under one nation with their own race/ethnicity. I believe that is better for everyone in the long run.
    While I do not believe, as the Church also teaches, that mixed race marriages are inherently evil, I do believe that they are generally a very bad idea and that one should marry from his/her own people and culture. Unique individual situations may exist where it may be possible, but such a rare occurance cannot be generalized.
    Lastly, I do believe that certain races are inherently prone to certain virtues and vices as males and females are prone to certain virtues and vices as well. I do not think this as racist or sexist.

    Simply reality.

    A very rational view of the matter. Thanks very much and welcome to the forum!


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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #20 on: April 26, 2020, 04:08:43 PM »
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  • A very rational view of the matter. Thanks very much and welcome to the forum!
    Thank you!
    Wonder is the desire for knowledge

    St. Thomas Aquinas

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #21 on: April 26, 2020, 05:49:46 PM »
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  • I needn't respond to the forum's resident modernist shill, of course. If anything, the mere fact of his being opposed to me does credit to my position.

    Now be a good fellow and update everyone on your latest dalliance with fried chicken, black-eyed peas, chitterlings, and collard greens, all bathed in butter and roux.


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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #22 on: April 26, 2020, 10:37:11 PM »
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  • I needn't respond to the forum's resident modernist shill, of course. If anything, the mere fact of his being opposed to me does credit to my position.

    Now be a good fellow and update everyone on your latest dalliance with fried chicken, black-eyed peas, chitterlings, and collard greens, all bathed in butter and roux.
    You are unable to respond because you know that I am right. For one group of people to treat another group of people in a manner similar to the way in which Hitler treated the Jєωιѕн people, the handicapped, and the other ethnic minorities and by extension the way that other nations have mistreated their ethnic minorities is inherently unfair which is a sin against the virtue of justice, one of the cardinal virtues. This mistreatment is contrary to what is taught by the Catholic Church. If you want to be a proponent of this evil philosophy as a Protestant or a Jew or some other religion then that is what we might expect of those people. However we as Catholics are called by God to be a witness of the Truth. Racial hatred and the promotion of anything that excuses or incites others to follow is a sin against Truth and also against the theological virtue of charity. 


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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #23 on: April 27, 2020, 08:57:23 AM »
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  • You are unable to respond because you know that I am right. For one group of people to treat another group of people in a manner similar to the way in which Hitler treated the Jєωιѕн people, the handicapped, and the other ethnic minorities and by extension the way that other nations have mistreated their ethnic minorities is inherently unfair which is a sin against the virtue of justice, one of the cardinal virtues. This mistreatment is contrary to what is taught by the Catholic Church. If you want to be a proponent of this evil philosophy as a Protestant or a Jew or some other religion then that is what we might expect of those people. However we as Catholics are called by God to be a witness of the Truth. Racial hatred and the promotion of anything that excuses or incites others to follow is a sin against Truth and also against the theological virtue of charity.

    Demonstrate where I have advocated mistreatment or hatred, you innuendo-spewing liar.

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #24 on: April 28, 2020, 09:44:41 AM »
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  • You are unable to respond because you know that I am right. For one group of people to treat another group of people in a manner similar to the way in which Hitler treated the Jєωιѕн people, the handicapped, and the other ethnic minorities and by extension the way that other nations have mistreated their ethnic minorities is inherently unfair which is a sin against the virtue of justice, one of the cardinal virtues. This mistreatment is contrary to what is taught by the Catholic Church. If you want to be a proponent of this evil philosophy as a Protestant or a Jew or some other religion then that is what we might expect of those people. However we as Catholics are called by God to be a witness of the Truth. Racial hatred and the promotion of anything that excuses or incites others to follow is a sin against Truth and also against the theological virtue of charity.
    "Witness of the truth" my ass. Had no idea that blatant lies and calumnies are being a "witness of the Truth".

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #25 on: May 01, 2020, 12:07:45 AM »
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  • Demonstrate where I have advocated mistreatment or hatred, you innuendo-spewing liar.
    In giving the interpretation that you did with respect to that chapter of Mit Brennender Sorge you opened the door to the advocacy of mistreatment and hatred. That was a part of the policy of the nαzι regime. 


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    « Reply #26 on: May 01, 2020, 12:08:09 AM »
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  • "Witness of the truth" my ass. Had no idea that blatant lies and calumnies are being a "witness of the Truth".
    How have I calumniated any one?

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #27 on: May 01, 2020, 09:52:22 AM »
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  • In giving the interpretation that you did with respect to that chapter of Mit Brennender Sorge you opened the door to the advocacy of mistreatment and hatred. That was a part of the policy of the nαzι regime.

    I gave no "interpretation," you liar. I quoted it.

    You're familiar enough with this passage, having spammed it thousands of times:


    8. Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds. 

    You're imputing to the encyclical - and by extension to Pope Pius XI - your own Marxist-Jєωιѕн idealization racial indifferentism. It's not there, however. It condemns idolatrous exaltation of race (such as how the Jews exalt their own race above even the Son of God and His Church), while simultaneously recognizing race as a "fundamental value of the human community... necessary and honorable (in its) function in worldly things."

    There are posters here with basic reading comprehension, Poche. You chose to spam that passage ad nauseum. Don't start lying and calumniating just because it plainly says something you don't want it to say.

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #28 on: May 01, 2020, 10:05:50 AM »
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  • How have I calumniated any one?

    How about accusing those who don't accept the Jєωιѕн-Marxist racial narrative of advocating "hatred and mistreatment" of others?

    The false innocence and feigned simplicity he exhibits is disgusting, and brings to mind another papal encyclical, which he never seems to quote (despite having Mit Brenneder Sorge seemingly set up as a keyboard macro):


    27.
    ...With all this in mind, one understands how it is that the Modernists express astonishment when they are reprimanded or punished. What is imputed to them as a fault they regard as a sacred duty. Being in intimate contact with consciences they know better than anybody else, and certainly better than the ecclesiastical authority, what needs exist - nay, they embody them, so to speak, in themselves. ….And so they go their way, reprimands and condemnations notwithstanding, masking an incredible audacity under a mock semblance of humility. While they make a show of bowing their heads, their hands and minds are more intent than ever on carrying out their purposes. And this policy they follow willingly and wittingly, both because it is part of their system that authority is to be stimulated but not dethroned, and because it is necessary for them to remain within the ranks of the Church in order that they may gradually transform the collective conscience - thus unconsciously avowing that the common conscience is not with them, and that they have no right to claim to be its interpreters.

    Pope St. Pius X (Pascendi Dominici Gregis)

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #29 on: May 02, 2020, 12:47:24 AM »
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  • I gave no "interpretation," you liar. I quoted it.

    You're familiar enough with this passage, having spammed it thousands of times:


    8. Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.

    You're imputing to the encyclical - and by extension to Pope Pius XI - your own Marxist-Jєωιѕн idealization racial indifferentism. It's not there, however. It condemns idolatrous exaltation of race (such as how the Jews exalt their own race above even the Son of God and His Church), while simultaneously recognizing race as a "fundamental value of the human community... necessary and honorable (in its) function in worldly things."

    There are posters here with basic reading comprehension, Poche. You chose to spam that passage ad nauseum. Don't start lying and calumniating just because it plainly says something you don't want it to say.

    It also condemned the nαzι regime and its racial ideology of racial purity. This was not lost on the leaders of that regime as they arrested thousands of priests and nuns.