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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: BTNYC on April 12, 2020, 06:30:39 PM
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Yes, it's become my "pet" subject for the past year or two, but I'm repeatedly reminded that this subject bears repeated remindings:
"Racism" is a moral concept invented in the 20th Century by Marxist Jews.
Catholics are not obligated to accept moral concepts invented by Christ's enemies. In fact, we are obligated to REJECT them.
"Mit Brennender Sorge," Poche's interminable nd inevitable spamming of it notwithstanding, is not a recognition of the "reality" of the non-existent Jєωιѕн Marxist "sin" of racism. On the contrary, it affirms race - along with the people and the state - as a "fundamental value of the human community," with a "necessary and honorable... function in worldly things." That affirmation alone, according to the Jєωιѕн-Marxist weltanschauung behind the concept of "Racism," renders the Encyclical and its author "Racist." After all, "race is just a social construct," right, goyim?
The encyclical warns against exalting these "fundamental values" to "idolatrous levels." The only group I can think of that's genuinely guilty of exalting race to idolatrous levels, would be the very ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan that so despises us unwashed goyim chattel that they would rather call the Blood of the Messiah upon themselves as an eternal curse, than to accept that God's grace of salvation has been opened by that selfsame Messiah to all - of every race - and not just to them.
But loving one's own race above others? Recognizing that talents and weaknesses are not evenly distributed among the races? Not wanting to live among members of an alien race? None of those qualifies as "exaltation to idolatrous levels." It's mere human nature.
Cast off any claim that Jєωιѕн Marxists have on your intellects, friends. "Racism" has all the objective moral reality of "sexism," "homophobia," and "transphobia." Accuse no one of it, and accept all accusations of it lobbed against you with a shrug and a smile.
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Sins against charity are still sins sins.
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Sins against charity are still sins sins.
Well, we're all aware of who the self-appointed chief of the Chawity Police is around here.
Nevertheless, racial prejudices and preferences are not sins against charity. They are universal and innate aspects of human psychology. As they tend toward self-preservation, they are both natural and good.
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Great post.
If we allow terms like 'racist,' 'sexist,' or 'homophobic' to carry moral weight, we consider the morality of our enemy as valid. Slowly, we adopt their sympathies and eventually agree with their ideologies.
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Well, we're all aware of who the self-appointed chief of the Chawity Police is around here.
Nevertheless, racial prejudices and preferences are not sins against charity. They are universal and innate aspects of human psychology. As they tend toward self-preservation, they are both natural and good.
From the First Epistle of John 2:11
11] (http://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=69&ch=2&l=11-#x) But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth; because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.
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From the First Epistle of John 2:11
11] (http://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=69&ch=2&l=11-#x) But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth; because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.
The Scriptural prooftext equivalent to "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
Racial prejudices and preferences are not species of hatred, contrary to all of the ADL-produced propaganda, and Rockefeller-funded MLK hagiographies on which you were reared, and to which you've given the uncritical assent of your intellect.
Behold, the perfectly enlightened American Baby Boomer. It took 20 centuries of apparent Catholic moral failure to arrive at this perfected specimen of charity and righteousness. To think it only took a little nudge from Jєωιѕн Marxists to get us there.
With revulsion and nausea, my mind is cast back to my childhood memories of my college-educated brainwashed aunts and uncles, frequently and sanctimoniously castigating my saintly and pious grandparents - Catholics to whom none I have met could hold a candle - for "walking in the darkness" of "racism" because some comment was uttered or an observation of objective reality was made that didn't jibe with the racially indifferent utopianism preached by their rat-faced commie professors.
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poche says: From the First Epistle of John 2:11
11] But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth; because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.
Jesus Christ is the same God in the New as in the Old. To deny it anathematizes oneself from the Church.
From the 2nd Book of Esdras chapter 4 (Old Testament):
[1] And it came to pass, that when Sanaballat heard that we were building the wall he was angry: and being moved exceedingly he scoffed at the Jews. [2] And said before his brethren, and the multitude of the Samaritans: What are the silly Jews doing? Will the Gentiles let them alone? will they sacrifice and make an end in a day? are they able to raise stones out of the heaps of the rubbish, which are burnt? [3] Tobias also the Ammonite who was by him said: Let them build: if a fox go up, he will leap over their stone wall. [4] Hear thou our God, for we are despised: turn their reproach upon their own head, and give them to be despised in a land of captivity. [5] Cover not their iniquity, and let not their sin be blotted out from before thy face, because they have mocked thy builders.
[6] So we built the wall, and joined it all together unto the half thereof: and the heart of the people was excited to work. [7] And it came to pass, when Sanaballat, and Tobias, and the Arabians, and the Ammonites, and the Azotians heard that the walls of Jerusalem were made up, and the breaches began to be closed, that they were exceedingly angry. [8] And they all assembled themselves together, to come, and to fight against Jerusalem, and to prepare ambushes. [9] And we prayed to our God, and set watchmen upon the wall day and night against them. [10] And Juda said: The strength of the bearer of burdens is decayed, and the rubbish is very much, and we shall not be able to build the wall.
[11] And our enemies said: Let them not know, nor understand, till we come in the midst of them, and kill them, and cause the work to cease. [12] And it came to pass, that when the Jews that dwelt by them came and told us ten times, out of all the places from whence they came to us, [13] I set the people in the place behind the wall round about in order, with their swords, and spears, and bows. [14] And I looked and rose up: and I said to the chief men and the magistrates, and to the rest of the common people: be not afraid of them. Remember the Lord who is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, and your wives, and your houses. [15] And it came to pass, when our enemies heard that the thing had been told us, that God defeated their counsel. And we returned all of us to the walls, every man to his work.
[16] And it came to pass from that day forward, that half of their young men did the work, and half were ready for to fight, with spears, and shields, and bows, and coats of mail, and the rulers were behind them in all the house of Juda. [17] Of them that built on the wall and that carried burdens, and that laded: with one of his hands he did the work, and with the other he held a sword. [18] For every one of the builders was girded with a sword about his reins. And they built, and sounded with a trumpet by me. [19] And I said to the nobles, and to the magistrates, and to the rest of the common people: The work is great and wide, and we are separated on the wall one far from another: [20] In what place soever you shall hear the sound of the trumpet, run all thither unto us: our God will fight for us.
[21] And let us do the work: and let one half of us hold our spears from the rising of the morning, till the stars appear. [22] At that time also I said to the people: Let every one with his servant stay in the midst of Jerusalem, and let us take our turns in the night, and by day, to work. [23] Now I and my brethren, and my servants, and the watchmen that followed me, did not put off our clothes: only every man stripped himself when he was to be washed.
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From the First Epistle of John 2:11
11] (http://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=69&ch=2&l=11-#x) But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth; because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.
Preferring one's own =/= hating everyone else.
lol
If you are married, you are not to hate your Catholic sisters who aren't your wife, but I feel sorry for your wife if you take that to mean you shouldn't prefer her.
lol
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There's many distinct traits and characteristics that differentiate people besides race, there's of course nationality (which can be further divided into Regions, States, Provinces and such), religion, and one rarely mentioned in the USA, social class. A blue collar working class man in South America or Europe would feel totally out of place in a cultured upper class environment and would not want to mix with them. Social class is the biggest divider in monoethnic societies throughout the world.
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There's many distinct traits and characteristics that differentiate people besides race, there's of course nationality (which can be further divided into Regions, States, Provinces and such), religion, and one rarely mentioned in the USA, social class. A blue collar working class man in South America or Europe would feel totally out of place in a cultured upper class environment and would not want to mix with them. Social class is the biggest divider in monoethnic societies throughout the world.
My country and all we had was taken from my entire family by communist and we were scattered to different countries, Spain, USA, South America. Everyone in our family going back 100's of years are baptized Catholics. My oldest child is near 20 years old and during all of her years I could not send her away to any of my relatives during the Summer vacations because not a one relative is living the Catholic faith. If I were to send my children their they would learn to be just like any girl on the street. My relatives are like me in every detail, no one could come closer, however, because of their secularized "religion", I have to keep at a polite distance. Religion (salvation) should be the #1 divider for Catholics.
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Yes, it's become my "pet" subject for the past year or two, but I'm repeatedly reminded that this subject bears repeated remindings:
"Racism" is a moral concept invented in the 20th Century by Marxist Jews.
Catholics are not obligated to accept moral concepts invented by Christ's enemies. In fact, we are obligated to REJECT them.
Quite right BTNYC!
A few snips from Who Shall Ascend? (https://www.cathinfo.com/the-library/who-shall-ascend-fr-wathen/)
"....Racism" is the idea that if anyone denies that there is perfect equality among the races, for example, if he says that Black people, taken as a group, are not equal in every aspect to other racial groups, that is racism, and that man is a racist. And any action taken or omitted on the basis of this supposed inequality is discrimination. According to this view, justice condemns all forms of discrimination, because all men are equal, and all men have equal rights. Any form of discrimination, which is treating people differently because they are of a different race, is both an act of injustice, and an act of uncharitableness.
We now live in the "brave new world," where our very thoughts are subject to legislation by those who mew about being ready to die for the right of every man to his opinion. Racism is the sin and crime of even imagining that all races of people are not equal, and treating members of a particular race as if they are different, or not acting toward them as if they are not equal and even identical. Before commenting on the morality or immorality of racism, we should make the following remarks:
1. We advert to the fact, first of all, that whenever we speak of "discrimination," we have discontinued speaking as Christians and begun to speak as Liberals, Marxists, socialists, Communists, Jews, and the like...."
He goes on...
"On the contrary:
1. All men are not equal, nor are they identical. As St. Paul says: "One is the glory of the sun, another the glory of the moon, and another the glory of the stars. For star differeth from star in glory." (I Cor. 15:41).
2.The races are not equal, and the doctrine that they are equal is as insidious as it is wrong. And the effort to teach all men that they are equal is as wicked as all that is done to implement the error is inhumane. The only way that men could be considered equal and identical is that they be considered as nothing else but possessions and resources of the State, and as economic units, as things to be managed and used, as mouths which the State must feed, as beings who have no rights..."
Click the link for the rest, well worth reading, the whole book is well worth reading.
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Yes, it's become my "pet" subject for the past year or two, but I'm repeatedly reminded that this subject bears repeated remindings:
"Racism" is a moral concept invented in the 20th Century by Marxist Jews.
Catholics are not obligated to accept moral concepts invented by Christ's enemies. In fact, we are obligated to REJECT them.
"Mit Brennender Sorge," Poche's interminable nd inevitable spamming of it notwithstanding, is not a recognition of the "reality" of the non-existent Jєωιѕн Marxist "sin" of racism. On the contrary, it affirms race - along with the people and the state - as a "fundamental value of the human community," with a "necessary and honorable... function in worldly things." That affirmation alone, according to the Jєωιѕн-Marxist weltanschauung behind the concept of "Racism," renders the Encyclical and its author "Racist." After all, "race is just a social construct," right, goyim?
The encyclical warns against exalting these "fundamental values" to "idolatrous levels." The only group I can think of that's genuinely guilty of exalting race to idolatrous levels, would be the very ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan that so despises us unwashed goyim chattel that they would rather call the Blood of the Messiah upon themselves as an eternal curse, than to accept that God's grace of salvation has been opened by that selfsame Messiah to all - of every race - and not just to them.
But loving one's own race above others? Recognizing that talents and weaknesses are not evenly distributed among the races? Not wanting to live among members of an alien race? None of those qualifies as "exaltation to idolatrous levels." It's mere human nature.
Cast off any claim that Jєωιѕн Marxists have on your intellects, friends. "Racism" has all the objective moral reality of "sexism," "homophobia," and "transphobia." Accuse no one of it, and accept all accusations of it lobbed against you with a shrug and a smile.
Is that how it was perceived by the National Socialist government?
The release of Mit brennender Sorge precipitated an intensification of the nαzι persecution of the Catholic Church in Germany (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nαzι_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany).[63] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Ian_Kershaw_pp._381-63) Hitler was infuriated.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Anton_Gill_p.58-2) Twelve printing presses were seized, and hundreds of people sent either to prison or the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Anton_Gill_p.58-2) In his diary, Goebbels wrote that there were heightened verbal attacks on the clergy from Hitler, and wrote that Hitler had approved the start of trumped up "immorality trials" against clergy and anti-Church propaganda campaign. Goebbels' orchestrated attack included a staged "morality trial" of 37 Franciscans.[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Kershaw381-64) On the "Church Question", wrote Goebbels, "after the war it has to be generally solved... There is, namely, an insoluble opposition between the Christian and a heroic-German world view".[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Kershaw381-64)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge)
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Is that how it was perceived by the National Socialist government?
The release of Mit brennender Sorge precipitated an intensification of the nαzι persecution of the Catholic Church in Germany (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nαzι_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany).[63] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Ian_Kershaw_pp._381-63) Hitler was infuriated.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Anton_Gill_p.58-2) Twelve printing presses were seized, and hundreds of people sent either to prison or the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Anton_Gill_p.58-2) In his diary, Goebbels wrote that there were heightened verbal attacks on the clergy from Hitler, and wrote that Hitler had approved the start of trumped up "immorality trials" against clergy and anti-Church propaganda campaign. Goebbels' orchestrated attack included a staged "morality trial" of 37 Franciscans.[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Kershaw381-64) On the "Church Question", wrote Goebbels, "after the war it has to be generally solved... There is, namely, an insoluble opposition between the Christian and a heroic-German world view".[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge#cite_note-Kershaw381-64)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge)
I needn't respond to the forum's resident modernist shill, of course. If anything, the mere fact of his being opposed to me does credit to my position.
Now be a good fellow and update everyone on your latest dalliance with fried chicken, black-eyed peas, chitterlings, and collard greens, all bathed in butter and roux.
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Quite right BTNYC!
A few snips from Who Shall Ascend? (https://www.cathinfo.com/the-library/who-shall-ascend-fr-wathen/)
"....Racism" is the idea that if anyone denies that there is perfect equality among the races, for example, if he says that Black people, taken as a group, are not equal in every aspect to other racial groups, that is racism, and that man is a racist. And any action taken or omitted on the basis of this supposed inequality is discrimination. According to this view, justice condemns all forms of discrimination, because all men are equal, and all men have equal rights. Any form of discrimination, which is treating people differently because they are of a different race, is both an act of injustice, and an act of uncharitableness.
We now live in the "brave new world," where our very thoughts are subject to legislation by those who mew about being ready to die for the right of every man to his opinion. Racism is the sin and crime of even imagining that all races of people are not equal, and treating members of a particular race as if they are different, or not acting toward them as if they are not equal and even identical. Before commenting on the morality or immorality of racism, we should make the following remarks:
1. We advert to the fact, first of all, that whenever we speak of "discrimination," we have discontinued speaking as Christians and begun to speak as Liberals, Marxists, socialists, Communists, Jews, and the like...."
He goes on...
"On the contrary:
1. All men are not equal, nor are they identical. As St. Paul says: "One is the glory of the sun, another the glory of the moon, and another the glory of the stars. For star differeth from star in glory." (I Cor. 15:41).
2.The races are not equal, and the doctrine that they are equal is as insidious as it is wrong. And the effort to teach all men that they are equal is as wicked as all that is done to implement the error is inhumane. The only way that men could be considered equal and identical is that they be considered as nothing else but possessions and resources of the State, and as economic units, as things to be managed and used, as mouths which the State must feed, as beings who have no rights..."
Click the link for the rest, well worth reading, the whole book is well worth reading.
Excellent contribution! Thanks, Stubborn.
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Jєωιѕн Marxist atheism came to America wrapped in the rainbow flag and fronted by "diversity" and political correctness.
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I needn't respond to the forum's resident modernist shill, of course. If anything, the mere fact of his being opposed to me does credit to my position.
Now be a good fellow and update everyone on your latest dalliance with fried chicken, black-eyed peas, chitterlings, and collard greens, all bathed in butter and roux.
This made me :laugh1: :laugh2:
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Sins against charity are still sins sins.
Sooo, is Jesus committing a "sin" against charity here?
This was a woman from a different tribe/race/ethnicity begging Jesus for help.. Jesus not only ignored her, but actually referred to her as a dog.
Now, if I didn't know any better and according to your judaized version of Christianity, I'd say Christ was very uncharitable here at one point and with his elitist reference to his own ethnicity, possibly a "racist". ::)
Matthew 15:21-28 New International Version (NIV)
The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon.22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.
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Sooo, is Jesus committing a "sin" against charity here?
This was a woman from a different tribe/race/ethnicity begging Jesus for help.. Jesus not only ignored her, but actually referred to her as a dog.
Now, if I didn't know any better and according to your judaized version of Christianity, I'd say Christ was very uncharitable here at one point and with his elitist reference to his own ethnicity, possibly a "racist". ::)
Matthew 15:21-28 New International Version (NIV)
The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon.22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.
How uncharitable! Our Lord used the "d-word!" And never apologized for it! Didn't He know that "people have died over that word?!"
Why it's almost as if He was able to distinguish individuals from groups! Perhaps He could even recognize that exceptions prove rules, too!
In other words, Our Lord might have realized that "Chinese people tend to be short" is a true statement, despite the existence of statistical outliers like Yao Ming!
B-but what about our precious Jєωιѕн Marxist weltanschauung? "Racism" is the ultimate evil! Hitler is the new Satan! Nationalism is the enemy of Patriotism!*
* A literal declaration made by Rothschild stooge Emmanuel Macron, BTW.
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Yes, it's become my "pet" subject for the past year or two, but I'm repeatedly reminded that this subject bears repeated remindings:
"Racism" is a moral concept invented in the 20th Century by Marxist Jews.
Catholics are not obligated to accept moral concepts invented by Christ's enemies. In fact, we are obligated to REJECT them.
"Mit Brennender Sorge," Poche's interminable nd inevitable spamming of it notwithstanding, is not a recognition of the "reality" of the non-existent Jєωιѕн Marxist "sin" of racism. On the contrary, it affirms race - along with the people and the state - as a "fundamental value of the human community," with a "necessary and honorable... function in worldly things." That affirmation alone, according to the Jєωιѕн-Marxist weltanschauung behind the concept of "Racism," renders the Encyclical and its author "Racist." After all, "race is just a social construct," right, goyim?
The encyclical warns against exalting these "fundamental values" to "idolatrous levels." The only group I can think of that's genuinely guilty of exalting race to idolatrous levels, would be the very ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan that so despises us unwashed goyim chattel that they would rather call the Blood of the Messiah upon themselves as an eternal curse, than to accept that God's grace of salvation has been opened by that selfsame Messiah to all - of every race - and not just to them.
But loving one's own race above others? Recognizing that talents and weaknesses are not evenly distributed among the races? Not wanting to live among members of an alien race? None of those qualifies as "exaltation to idolatrous levels." It's mere human nature.
Cast off any claim that Jєωιѕн Marxists have on your intellects, friends. "Racism" has all the objective moral reality of "sexism," "homophobia," and "transphobia." Accuse no one of it, and accept all accusations of it lobbed against you with a shrug and a smile.
Very well said. Thank you
I completely agree. I am of the view that in our world, the utopian vision of those who believe that multiculturalism, miscegenation, and egalitarianism are the way to progress is greatly misguided.
Human nature is what it is and we cannot change that reality. Being Catholics we can certainly temper our natures, but we cannot completely destroy it.
Races are by nature of different abilities, temperaments, and natures.
Seeing this reality is not racist at all. Nor is the desire of a people to live under one nation with their own race/ethnicity. I believe that is better for everyone in the long run.
While I do not believe, as the Church also teaches, that mixed race marriages are inherently evil, I do believe that they are generally a very bad idea and that one should marry from his/her own people and culture. Unique individual situations may exist where it may be possible, but such a rare occurance cannot be generalized.
Lastly, I do believe that certain races are inherently prone to certain virtues and vices as males and females are prone to certain virtues and vices as well. I do not think this as racist or sexist.
Simply reality.
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Very well said. Thank you
I completely agree. I am of the view that in our world, the utopian vision of those who believe that multiculturalism, miscegenation, and egalitarianism are the way to progress is greatly misguided.
Human nature is what it is and we cannot change that reality. Being Catholics we can certainly temper our natures, but we cannot completely destroy it.
Races are by nature of different abilities, temperaments, and natures.
Seeing this reality is not racist at all. Nor is the desire of a people to live under one nation with their own race/ethnicity. I believe that is better for everyone in the long run.
While I do not believe, as the Church also teaches, that mixed race marriages are inherently evil, I do believe that they are generally a very bad idea and that one should marry from his/her own people and culture. Unique individual situations may exist where it may be possible, but such a rare occurance cannot be generalized.
Lastly, I do believe that certain races are inherently prone to certain virtues and vices as males and females are prone to certain virtues and vices as well. I do not think this as racist or sexist.
Simply reality.
A very rational view of the matter. Thanks very much and welcome to the forum!
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A very rational view of the matter. Thanks very much and welcome to the forum!
Thank you!
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I needn't respond to the forum's resident modernist shill, of course. If anything, the mere fact of his being opposed to me does credit to my position.
Now be a good fellow and update everyone on your latest dalliance with fried chicken, black-eyed peas, chitterlings, and collard greens, all bathed in butter and roux.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :cowboy: :cowboy: :cowboy:
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I needn't respond to the forum's resident modernist shill, of course. If anything, the mere fact of his being opposed to me does credit to my position.
Now be a good fellow and update everyone on your latest dalliance with fried chicken, black-eyed peas, chitterlings, and collard greens, all bathed in butter and roux.
You are unable to respond because you know that I am right. For one group of people to treat another group of people in a manner similar to the way in which Hitler treated the Jєωιѕн people, the handicapped, and the other ethnic minorities and by extension the way that other nations have mistreated their ethnic minorities is inherently unfair which is a sin against the virtue of justice, one of the cardinal virtues. This mistreatment is contrary to what is taught by the Catholic Church. If you want to be a proponent of this evil philosophy as a Protestant or a Jew or some other religion then that is what we might expect of those people. However we as Catholics are called by God to be a witness of the Truth. Racial hatred and the promotion of anything that excuses or incites others to follow is a sin against Truth and also against the theological virtue of charity.
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You are unable to respond because you know that I am right. For one group of people to treat another group of people in a manner similar to the way in which Hitler treated the Jєωιѕн people, the handicapped, and the other ethnic minorities and by extension the way that other nations have mistreated their ethnic minorities is inherently unfair which is a sin against the virtue of justice, one of the cardinal virtues. This mistreatment is contrary to what is taught by the Catholic Church. If you want to be a proponent of this evil philosophy as a Protestant or a Jew or some other religion then that is what we might expect of those people. However we as Catholics are called by God to be a witness of the Truth. Racial hatred and the promotion of anything that excuses or incites others to follow is a sin against Truth and also against the theological virtue of charity.
Demonstrate where I have advocated mistreatment or hatred, you innuendo-spewing liar.
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You are unable to respond because you know that I am right. For one group of people to treat another group of people in a manner similar to the way in which Hitler treated the Jєωιѕн people, the handicapped, and the other ethnic minorities and by extension the way that other nations have mistreated their ethnic minorities is inherently unfair which is a sin against the virtue of justice, one of the cardinal virtues. This mistreatment is contrary to what is taught by the Catholic Church. If you want to be a proponent of this evil philosophy as a Protestant or a Jew or some other religion then that is what we might expect of those people. However we as Catholics are called by God to be a witness of the Truth. Racial hatred and the promotion of anything that excuses or incites others to follow is a sin against Truth and also against the theological virtue of charity.
"Witness of the truth" my ass. Had no idea that blatant lies and calumnies are being a "witness of the Truth".
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Demonstrate where I have advocated mistreatment or hatred, you innuendo-spewing liar.
In giving the interpretation that you did with respect to that chapter of Mit Brennender Sorge you opened the door to the advocacy of mistreatment and hatred. That was a part of the policy of the nαzι regime.
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"Witness of the truth" my ass. Had no idea that blatant lies and calumnies are being a "witness of the Truth".
How have I calumniated any one?
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In giving the interpretation that you did with respect to that chapter of Mit Brennender Sorge you opened the door to the advocacy of mistreatment and hatred. That was a part of the policy of the nαzι regime.
I gave no "interpretation," you liar. I quoted it.
You're familiar enough with this passage, having spammed it thousands of times:
8. Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.
You're imputing to the encyclical - and by extension to Pope Pius XI - your own Marxist-Jєωιѕн idealization racial indifferentism. It's not there, however. It condemns idolatrous exaltation of race (such as how the Jews exalt their own race above even the Son of God and His Church), while simultaneously recognizing race as a "fundamental value of the human community... necessary and honorable (in its) function in worldly things."
There are posters here with basic reading comprehension, Poche. You chose to spam that passage ad nauseum. Don't start lying and calumniating just because it plainly says something you don't want it to say.
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How have I calumniated any one?
How about accusing those who don't accept the Jєωιѕн-Marxist racial narrative of advocating "hatred and mistreatment" of others?
The false innocence and feigned simplicity he exhibits is disgusting, and brings to mind another papal encyclical, which he never seems to quote (despite having Mit Brenneder Sorge seemingly set up as a keyboard macro):
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...With all this in mind, one understands how it is that the Modernists express astonishment when they are reprimanded or punished. What is imputed to them as a fault they regard as a sacred duty. Being in intimate contact with consciences they know better than anybody else, and certainly better than the ecclesiastical authority, what needs exist - nay, they embody them, so to speak, in themselves. ….And so they go their way, reprimands and condemnations notwithstanding, masking an incredible audacity under a mock semblance of humility. While they make a show of bowing their heads, their hands and minds are more intent than ever on carrying out their purposes. And this policy they follow willingly and wittingly, both because it is part of their system that authority is to be stimulated but not dethroned, and because it is necessary for them to remain within the ranks of the Church in order that they may gradually transform the collective conscience - thus unconsciously avowing that the common conscience is not with them, and that they have no right to claim to be its interpreters.
Pope St. Pius X (Pascendi Dominici Gregis)
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I gave no "interpretation," you liar. I quoted it.
You're familiar enough with this passage, having spammed it thousands of times:
8. Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.
You're imputing to the encyclical - and by extension to Pope Pius XI - your own Marxist-Jєωιѕн idealization racial indifferentism. It's not there, however. It condemns idolatrous exaltation of race (such as how the Jews exalt their own race above even the Son of God and His Church), while simultaneously recognizing race as a "fundamental value of the human community... necessary and honorable (in its) function in worldly things."
There are posters here with basic reading comprehension, Poche. You chose to spam that passage ad nauseum. Don't start lying and calumniating just because it plainly says something you don't want it to say.
It also condemned the nαzι regime and its racial ideology of racial purity. This was not lost on the leaders of that regime as they arrested thousands of priests and nuns.
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Hello. It has been a long time I have not posted here. The French boy is back.
We already had a discussion on this matter, and one moderator threatened me with ban, because I said that the Blacks were descendants of Ham and that they committed more crimes, not only in the USA but in other parts of the world.
As an individual, nobody is doomed to vice and damnation because of one's race; but as peoples, in terms of dignity and virtue, races are not equal, since the various descendants of Noah have not the same merits.
The idea that all nations are equally virtuous and are to be welcomed in the Western world is part of what you call in your country "the Counter-Culture of the 60's", with feminism, sɛҳuąƖ promiscuity, cosmopolitism,etc.
During WW2, 80% of rapists in your army were Black people while they represented about 10% of the army. They wandered in the French countryside to rape white women...
The devil promotes those diabolical ideas of cosmopolitism in order to corrupt human race. Venerable Anne Catherine Emmerich received several revelations about the curse of Ham; she said that:
-Black color is a consequence of Ham's sin (the Jews already taught that, and even Mahomedons have this tradition);
-The descendants of Cain were also black because of their ancestor's curse;
-The Flood occurred because many pure descendants of Sem mingled with the corrupted race of Cain, and God could not allow the whole corruption of Sem's posterity since the Incarnation would happen among Sem's descendants;
-The main executioners of Our Lord were black slaves of the Roman.
etc.
King Louis XVI forbade intermarriage between White and Blacks or mulattos, when he abolished slavery. The reason why he abolished slavery is that he was opposed to the presence of Blacks in our country.
The Devil promotes cosmopolitism, "multiculturalism" and mass immigration ideology, because he wants to corrupt humanity as a whole. The Jews have lost their racial purity and are taking revenge against Christians. Racial purity was essential to Judaism since the religion could not be practiced without it: the priests should descend from the tribe of Levy and the high priest should descend from Sadok. The twelve tribes were SEPERATED because they had not the same dignity, not the same virtue. God has done the same with mankind in the past, but internationalism and cosmopolitism are leading us astray.
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I think that it would DEFINATELY be a sin to say “I hate all [insert color] people because they are sub human and should be property and have less rights”.
However race preferences are normal I’d say but we must all remember that the Catholic Faith is universal, that culture doesn’t equal race, and that God loves all people regardless of race.
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I think that it would DEFINITELY be a sin to say “I hate all [insert color] people because they are sub human and should be property and have less rights”.
However race preferences are normal I’d say but we must all remember that the Catholic Faith is universal, that culture doesn’t equal race, and that God loves all people regardless of race.
Yes, this is what it is all about, the faith.
The ʝʊdɛօ-masonic rulers perpetrated desegregation / false eccuмenism under evil pretenses, by design it destroys the faith while being promoted as a strength. The lie,"Strength in diversity" is supposed to mean something materially good, yet everyone knows that strength lies in unity - unity of belief, which means diversity kills unity, which means inherent in diversity is the aim to kill strength dead.
Add in all who fit into this label of "diversity", not just people of different colors, but also pin heads and other freaks, queers and other perverts, satanists and on and on - and immediately and by default, any and all unity hence strength, is all but destroyed.
It is by divine design that "birds of a feather flock together", that sparrows don't flock together with seagulls, that trout don't swim together with salmon, just as the peoples of different countries speak different languages, have different colors and looks, different foods, different customs and so on. This is how it was meant to be because this is how God intended it to be as a benefit to us, to be utilized during our journey towards eternity.
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Hello. It has been a long time I have not posted here. The French boy is back.
We already had a discussion on this matter, and one moderator threatened me with ban, because I said that the Blacks were descendants of Ham and that they committed more crimes, not only in the USA but in other parts of the world.
As an individual, nobody is doomed to vice and damnation because of one's race; but as peoples, in terms of dignity and virtue, races are not equal, since the various descendants of Noah have not the same merits.
The idea that all nations are equally virtuous and are to be welcomed in the Western world is part of what you call in your country "the Counter-Culture of the 60's", with feminism, sɛҳuąƖ promiscuity, cosmopolitism,etc.
During WW2, 80% of rapists in your army were Black people while they represented about 10% of the army. They wandered in the French countryside to rape white women...
The devil promotes those diabolical ideas of cosmopolitism in order to corrupt human race. Venerable Anne Catherine Emmerich received several revelations about the curse of Ham; she said that:
-Black color is a consequence of Ham's sin (the Jews already taught that, and even Mahomedons have this tradition);
-The descendants of Cain were also black because of their ancestor's curse;
-The Flood occurred because many pure descendants of Sem mingled with the corrupted race of Cain, and God could not allow the whole corruption of Sem's posterity since the Incarnation would happen among Sem's descendants;
-The main executioners of Our Lord were black slaves of the Roman.
etc.
King Louis XVI forbade intermarriage between White and Blacks or mulattos, when he abolished slavery. The reason why he abolished slavery is that he was opposed to the presence of Blacks in our country.
The Devil promotes cosmopolitism, "multiculturalism" and mass immigration ideology, because he wants to corrupt humanity as a whole. The Jews have lost their racial purity and are taking revenge against Christians. Racial purity was essential to Judaism since the religion could not be practiced without it: the priests should descend from the tribe of Levy and the high priest should descend from Sadok. The twelve tribes were SEPERATED because they had not the same dignity, not the same virtue. God has done the same with mankind in the past, but internationalism and cosmopolitism are leading us astray.
Indeed. I agree 100%.
I am from the levant and even St. Ephraim The Syrian held to the validity of the curse of Ham and wrote prolifically on it.
In my culture marriage to blacks is strictly forbidden because of many reasons. In fact intermarriage in general is frowned upon in my country.
It is best for people to live with their own, marry with their own, and produce children with their own.
The races are not equal and that is reality. I would never let my son or daughter intermarry.
That is not to say however that we are not love one another as our Lord commanded, but that does not mean multiculturalism, race mixing, and other degenerate practices.