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"Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
« on: April 12, 2020, 06:30:39 PM »
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  • Yes, it's become my "pet" subject for the past year or two, but I'm repeatedly reminded that this subject bears repeated remindings:

    "Racism" is a moral concept invented in the 20th Century by Marxist Jєωs.

    Catholics are not obligated to accept moral concepts invented by Christ's enemies. In fact, we are obligated to REJECT them.

    "Mit Brennender Sorge," Poche's interminable nd inevitable spamming of it notwithstanding, is not a recognition of the "reality" of the non-existent Jєωιѕн Marxist "sin" of racism. On the contrary, it affirms race - along with the people and the state - as a "fundamental value of the human community," with a "necessary and honorable... function in worldly things." That affirmation alone, according to the Jєωιѕн-Marxist weltanschauung behind the concept of "Racism," renders the Encyclical and its author "Racist." After all, "race is just a social construct," right, goyim? 

    The encyclical warns against exalting these "fundamental values" to "idolatrous levels." The only group I can think of that's genuinely guilty of exalting race to idolatrous levels, would be the very ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan that so despises us unwashed goyim chattel that they would rather call the Blood of the Messiah upon themselves as an eternal curse, than to accept that God's grace of salvation has been opened by that selfsame Messiah to all - of every race - and not just to them.

    But loving one's own race above others? Recognizing that talents and weaknesses are not evenly distributed among the races? Not wanting to live among members of an alien race? None of those qualifies as "exaltation to idolatrous levels." It's mere human nature. 

    Cast off any claim that Jєωιѕн Marxists have on your intellects, friends. "Racism" has all the objective moral reality of "sexism," "homophobia," and "transphobia." Accuse no one of it, and accept all accusations of it lobbed against you with a shrug and a smile.


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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #1 on: April 12, 2020, 10:40:04 PM »
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  • Sins against charity are still sins sins.   


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    « Reply #2 on: April 13, 2020, 12:34:38 AM »
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  • Sins against charity are still sins sins.  
    Well, we're all aware of who the self-appointed chief of the Chawity Police is around here.

    Nevertheless, racial prejudices and preferences are not sins against charity. They are universal and innate aspects of human psychology. As they tend toward self-preservation, they are both natural and good.





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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #3 on: April 13, 2020, 12:39:37 AM »
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  • Great post. 

    If we allow terms like 'racist,' 'sexist,' or 'homophobic' to carry moral weight, we consider the morality of our enemy as valid. Slowly, we adopt their sympathies and eventually agree with their ideologies. 
    "If the Revolution is disorder, the Counter-Revolution is the restoration of order. And by order we mean the peace of Christ in the Reign of Christ, that is, Christian civilization, austere and hierarchical, fundamentally sacral, antiegalitarian, and antiliberal." - Dr. Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #4 on: April 13, 2020, 01:35:27 AM »
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  • Well, we're all aware of who the self-appointed chief of the Chawity Police is around here.

    Nevertheless, racial prejudices and preferences are not sins against charity. They are universal and innate aspects of human psychology. As they tend toward self-preservation, they are both natural and good.
    From the First Epistle of John 2:11 
      11] But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth; because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.


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    « Reply #5 on: April 13, 2020, 10:23:56 AM »
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  • From the First Epistle of John 2:11
      11] But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth; because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.

    The Scriptural prooftext equivalent to "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

    Racial prejudices and preferences are not species of hatred, contrary to all of the ADL-produced propaganda, and Rockefeller-funded MLK hagiographies on which you were reared, and to which you've given the uncritical assent of your intellect.

    Behold, the perfectly enlightened American Baby Boomer. It took 20 centuries of apparent Catholic moral failure to arrive at this perfected specimen of charity and righteousness. To think it only took a little nudge from Jєωιѕн Marxists to get us there. 

    With revulsion and nausea, my mind is cast back to my childhood memories of my college-educated brainwashed aunts and uncles, frequently and sanctimoniously castigating my saintly and pious grandparents - Catholics to whom none I have met could hold a candle - for "walking in the darkness" of "racism" because some comment was uttered or an observation of objective reality was made that didn't jibe with the racially indifferent utopianism preached by their rat-faced commie professors.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 13, 2020, 11:36:58 AM »
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    poche says: From the First Epistle of John 2:11
      11] But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth; because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.


    Jesus Christ is the same God in the New as in the Old. To deny it anathematizes oneself from the Church.

    From the 2nd Book of Esdras chapter 4 (Old Testament):

    [1] And it came to pass, that when Sanaballat heard that we were building the wall he was angry: and being moved exceedingly he scoffed at the Jєωs. [2] And said before his brethren, and the multitude of the Samaritans: What are the silly Jєωs doing? Will the Gentiles let them alone? will they sacrifice and make an end in a day? are they able to raise stones out of the heaps of the rubbish, which are burnt? [3] Tobias also the Ammonite who was by him said: Let them build: if a fox go up, he will leap over their stone wall. [4] Hear thou our God, for we are despised: turn their reproach upon their own head, and give them to be despised in a land of captivity. [5] Cover not their iniquity, and let not their sin be blotted out from before thy face, because they have mocked thy builders.

    [6] So we built the wall, and joined it all together unto the half thereof: and the heart of the people was excited to work. [7] And it came to pass, when Sanaballat, and Tobias, and the Arabians, and the Ammonites, and the Azotians heard that the walls of Jerusalem were made up, and the breaches began to be closed, that they were exceedingly angry. [8] And they all assembled themselves together, to come, and to fight against Jerusalem, and to prepare ambushes. [9] And we prayed to our God, and set watchmen upon the wall day and night against them. [10] And Juda said: The strength of the bearer of burdens is decayed, and the rubbish is very much, and we shall not be able to build the wall.

    [11] And our enemies said: Let them not know, nor understand, till we come in the midst of them, and kill them, and cause the work to cease. [12] And it came to pass, that when the Jєωs that dwelt by them came and told us ten times, out of all the places from whence they came to us, [13] I set the people in the place behind the wall round about in order, with their swords, and spears, and bows. [14] And I looked and rose up: and I said to the chief men and the magistrates, and to the rest of the common people: be not afraid of them. Remember the Lord who is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, and your wives, and your houses. [15] And it came to pass, when our enemies heard that the thing had been told us, that God defeated their counsel. And we returned all of us to the walls, every man to his work.

    [16] And it came to pass from that day forward, that half of their young men did the work, and half were ready for to fight, with spears, and shields, and bows, and coats of mail, and the rulers were behind them in all the house of Juda. [17] Of them that built on the wall and that carried burdens, and that laded: with one of his hands he did the work, and with the other he held a sword. [18] For every one of the builders was girded with a sword about his reins. And they built, and sounded with a trumpet by me. [19] And I said to the nobles, and to the magistrates, and to the rest of the common people: The work is great and wide, and we are separated on the wall one far from another: [20] In what place soever you shall hear the sound of the trumpet, run all thither unto us: our God will fight for us.

    [21] And let us do the work: and let one half of us hold our spears from the rising of the morning, till the stars appear. [22] At that time also I said to the people: Let every one with his servant stay in the midst of Jerusalem, and let us take our turns in the night, and by day, to work. [23] Now I and my brethren, and my servants, and the watchmen that followed me, did not put off our clothes: only every man stripped himself when he was to be washed.

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #7 on: April 15, 2020, 12:58:43 PM »
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  • From the First Epistle of John 2:11
      11] But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth; because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.
    Preferring one's own =/= hating everyone else.

    lol

    If you are married, you are not to hate your Catholic sisters who aren't your wife, but I feel sorry for your wife if you take that to mean you shouldn't prefer her.

    lol 


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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #8 on: April 15, 2020, 01:16:36 PM »
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  • There's many distinct traits and characteristics that differentiate people besides race, there's of course nationality (which can be further divided into Regions, States, Provinces and such), religion, and one rarely mentioned in the USA, social class. A blue collar working class man in South America or Europe would feel totally out of place in a cultured upper class environment and would not want to mix with them. Social class is the biggest divider in monoethnic societies throughout the world.  

    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    « Reply #9 on: April 15, 2020, 01:37:24 PM »
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  • There's many distinct traits and characteristics that differentiate people besides race, there's of course nationality (which can be further divided into Regions, States, Provinces and such), religion, and one rarely mentioned in the USA, social class. A blue collar working class man in South America or Europe would feel totally out of place in a cultured upper class environment and would not want to mix with them. Social class is the biggest divider in monoethnic societies throughout the world.  
    My country and all we had was taken from my entire family by communist and we were scattered to different countries, Spain, USA, South America. Everyone in our family going back 100's of years are baptized Catholics. My oldest child is near 20 years old and during all of her years I could not send her away to any of my relatives during the Summer vacations  because not a one relative is living the Catholic faith. If I were to send my children their they would learn to be just like any girl on the street. My relatives are like me in every detail, no one could come closer, however, because of their secularized "religion", I have to keep at a polite distance. Religion (salvation) should be the #1 divider for Catholics.  
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #10 on: April 25, 2020, 02:19:32 PM »
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  • Yes, it's become my "pet" subject for the past year or two, but I'm repeatedly reminded that this subject bears repeated remindings:

    "Racism" is a moral concept invented in the 20th Century by Marxist Jєωs.

    Catholics are not obligated to accept moral concepts invented by Christ's enemies. In fact, we are obligated to REJECT them.

    Quite right BTNYC!


    A few snips from Who Shall Ascend?

    "....Racism" is the idea that if anyone denies that there is perfect equality among the races, for example, if he says that Black people, taken as a group, are not equal in every aspect to other racial groups, that is racism, and that man is a racist. And any action taken or omitted on the basis of this supposed inequality is discrimination. According to this view, justice condemns all forms of discrimination, because all men are equal, and all men have equal rights. Any form of discrimination, which is treating people differently because they are of a different race, is both an act of injustice, and an act of uncharitableness.

    We now live in the "brave new world," where our very thoughts are subject to legislation by those who mew about being ready to die for the right of every man to his opinion. Racism is the sin and crime of even imagining that all races of people are not equal, and treating members of a particular race as if they are different, or not acting toward them as if they are not equal and even identical. Before commenting on the morality or immorality of racism, we should make the following remarks:

    1. We advert to the fact, first of all, that whenever we speak of "discrimination," we have discontinued speaking as Christians and begun to speak as Liberals, Marxists, socialists, Communists, Jєωs, and the like...."

    He goes on...

    "On the contrary:
    1. All men are not equal, nor are they identical. As St. Paul says: "One is the glory of the sun, another the glory of the moon, and another the glory of the stars. For star differeth from star in glory." (I Cor. 15:41).

    2.The races are not equal, and the doctrine that they are equal is as insidious as it is wrong. And the effort to teach all men that they are equal is as wicked as all that is done to implement the error is inhumane. The only way that men could be considered equal and identical is that they be considered as nothing else but possessions and resources of the State, and as economic units, as things to be managed and used, as mouths which the State must feed, as beings who have no rights..."

    Click the link for the rest, well worth reading, the whole book is well worth reading.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #11 on: April 26, 2020, 12:10:15 AM »
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  • Yes, it's become my "pet" subject for the past year or two, but I'm repeatedly reminded that this subject bears repeated remindings:

    "Racism" is a moral concept invented in the 20th Century by Marxist Jєωs.

    Catholics are not obligated to accept moral concepts invented by Christ's enemies. In fact, we are obligated to REJECT them.

    "Mit Brennender Sorge," Poche's interminable nd inevitable spamming of it notwithstanding, is not a recognition of the "reality" of the non-existent Jєωιѕн Marxist "sin" of racism. On the contrary, it affirms race - along with the people and the state - as a "fundamental value of the human community," with a "necessary and honorable... function in worldly things." That affirmation alone, according to the Jєωιѕн-Marxist weltanschauung behind the concept of "Racism," renders the Encyclical and its author "Racist." After all, "race is just a social construct," right, goyim?

    The encyclical warns against exalting these "fundamental values" to "idolatrous levels." The only group I can think of that's genuinely guilty of exalting race to idolatrous levels, would be the very ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan that so despises us unwashed goyim chattel that they would rather call the Blood of the Messiah upon themselves as an eternal curse, than to accept that God's grace of salvation has been opened by that selfsame Messiah to all - of every race - and not just to them.

    But loving one's own race above others? Recognizing that talents and weaknesses are not evenly distributed among the races? Not wanting to live among members of an alien race? None of those qualifies as "exaltation to idolatrous levels." It's mere human nature.

    Cast off any claim that Jєωιѕн Marxists have on your intellects, friends. "Racism" has all the objective moral reality of "sexism," "homophobia," and "transphobia." Accuse no one of it, and accept all accusations of it lobbed against you with a shrug and a smile.
    Is that how it was perceived by the National Socialist government? 
     The release of Mit brennender Sorge precipitated an intensification of the nαzι persecution of the Catholic Church in Germany.[63] Hitler was infuriated.[2] Twelve printing presses were seized, and hundreds of people sent either to prison or the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs.[2] In his diary, Goebbels wrote that there were heightened verbal attacks on the clergy from Hitler, and wrote that Hitler had approved the start of trumped up "immorality trials" against clergy and anti-Church propaganda campaign. Goebbels' orchestrated attack included a staged "morality trial" of 37 Franciscans.[64] On the "Church Question", wrote Goebbels, "after the war it has to be generally solved... There is, namely, an insoluble opposition between the Christian and a heroic-German world view".[64]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge

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    « Reply #12 on: April 26, 2020, 12:30:56 AM »
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  • Is that how it was perceived by the National Socialist government?
     The release of Mit brennender Sorge precipitated an intensification of the nαzι persecution of the Catholic Church in Germany.[63] Hitler was infuriated.[2] Twelve printing presses were seized, and hundreds of people sent either to prison or the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs.[2] In his diary, Goebbels wrote that there were heightened verbal attacks on the clergy from Hitler, and wrote that Hitler had approved the start of trumped up "immorality trials" against clergy and anti-Church propaganda campaign. Goebbels' orchestrated attack included a staged "morality trial" of 37 Franciscans.[64] On the "Church Question", wrote Goebbels, "after the war it has to be generally solved... There is, namely, an insoluble opposition between the Christian and a heroic-German world view".[64]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge

    I needn't respond to the forum's resident modernist shill, of course. If anything, the mere fact of his being opposed to me does credit to my position.

    Now be a good fellow and update everyone on your latest dalliance with fried chicken, black-eyed peas, chitterlings, and collard greens, all bathed in butter and roux.

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    « Reply #13 on: April 26, 2020, 12:32:51 AM »
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  • Quite right BTNYC!


    A few snips from Who Shall Ascend?

    "....Racism" is the idea that if anyone denies that there is perfect equality among the races, for example, if he says that Black people, taken as a group, are not equal in every aspect to other racial groups, that is racism, and that man is a racist. And any action taken or omitted on the basis of this supposed inequality is discrimination. According to this view, justice condemns all forms of discrimination, because all men are equal, and all men have equal rights. Any form of discrimination, which is treating people differently because they are of a different race, is both an act of injustice, and an act of uncharitableness.

    We now live in the "brave new world," where our very thoughts are subject to legislation by those who mew about being ready to die for the right of every man to his opinion. Racism is the sin and crime of even imagining that all races of people are not equal, and treating members of a particular race as if they are different, or not acting toward them as if they are not equal and even identical. Before commenting on the morality or immorality of racism, we should make the following remarks:

    1. We advert to the fact, first of all, that whenever we speak of "discrimination," we have discontinued speaking as Christians and begun to speak as Liberals, Marxists, socialists, Communists, Jєωs, and the like...."

    He goes on...

    "On the contrary:
    1. All men are not equal, nor are they identical. As St. Paul says: "One is the glory of the sun, another the glory of the moon, and another the glory of the stars. For star differeth from star in glory." (I Cor. 15:41).

    2.The races are not equal, and the doctrine that they are equal is as insidious as it is wrong. And the effort to teach all men that they are equal is as wicked as all that is done to implement the error is inhumane. The only way that men could be considered equal and identical is that they be considered as nothing else but possessions and resources of the State, and as economic units, as things to be managed and used, as mouths which the State must feed, as beings who have no rights..."

    Click the link for the rest, well worth reading, the whole book is well worth reading.

    Excellent contribution! Thanks, Stubborn.

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    Re: "Racism" is a Non-Existent Category for Catholics
    « Reply #14 on: April 26, 2020, 06:12:25 AM »
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  • Jєωιѕн Marxist atheism came to America wrapped in the rainbow flag and fronted by "diversity" and political correctness.