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Offline Ursus

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"Offensive" Landmark Cross for Vets to come down in CA
« on: December 12, 2013, 09:23:47 PM »
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  • A landmark cross part of a San Diego veteran's memorial to be removed. "Victory for religious freedom." Pressured by the ACLU and Jewish War Veterans.

    This is how Gods chosen people help Christians I suppose.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/13/us-usa-california-cross-idUSBRE9BC02Q20131213

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    "Offensive" Landmark Cross for Vets to come down in CA
    « Reply #1 on: December 12, 2013, 10:37:01 PM »
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    This is the new fad.  

    A few years ago, the County of Los Angeles spent something like 10 million dollars to remove the CROSS from the County Seal.  They had to recall and replace all the seals in use on county vehicles, paperwork, monuments, offices, signs, and the like.  

    They went to all this expense because the sight of that cross on top of the mission church in the seal was just too 'offensive' to non-Catholics, and then Roger Cardinal Mahony had narry a word to say about it.  

    There have been a number of crosses on public display that have stood for decades without any problem, but now this atheist/Jewish/agnostic/anti-God sentiment sweeping over the land finds OFFENSE at the sight of the cross.  

    I was standing inside the office of a doctor in Pasadena, CA, by the name of Robert M. Martin (now deceased?), when he looked north across the 210 Freeway out the window at a new Protestant building with a prominent cross high above it, on the west side of Lake Avenue.  I heard him voice his disapproval of that cross, that he didn't like to see it there.  His office has long since closed, but that Protestant building is still there, over the freeway and the cross yet endures.  Apparently the anti-cross sentiment, however, likewise endures.

    At many cemeteries across the country, there are numerous crosses on gravesites, and those are all under attack by these anti-Christian hate mongers.

    There was a prominent cross in the hills above Beverly Hills that was taken down recently because of never-ending complaints.  Supporters attempted to save it but eventually tired of the fight.  But the devil never sleeps.  

    In many Catholic parish churches the traditional crucifix is removed and replaced with a resurrectifix, I like to call it, which shows Our Lord standing there in front of a cross with His arms out like He's about to do a swan-dive.  Sometimes there are no wounds seen on His hands or feet, but NEVER seen in His side, for it's covered with a robe.  

    Another popular style is to show one or more of His hands removed from the cross-beam, as if the nails couldn't do the job.  Pope Francis has a cross crosier that has both hands of Our Lord raised above the crossbeam, as if He's the victim of a stick-up, a hi-jack, a burglary, or an arrest.  





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    The case hinged on whether it is legal for a religious symbol to be prominently displayed on public land and whether the cross violated the U.S. Constitution's requirement on separation of church and state.



    Under the Social Kingship of Christ the King, there would be no such argument.  

    The Cross of Our Lord would be on public display from sea to shining sea.



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    « Reply #2 on: December 12, 2013, 10:46:26 PM »
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    The cement dried.  




    There is no requirement in the U.S. Constitution for "separation of church and state."

    That's a fantasy.  The Constitution makes no mention of it.  


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    "Offensive" Landmark Cross for Vets to come down in CA
    « Reply #3 on: December 13, 2013, 07:19:47 AM »
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  • The US is a secular state:

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    As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

    Stop "kidding yourself."  The only true Christian state is a Catholic monarchy, which will only occur when the King of Heaven, Jesus Christ, comes again in glory.


     

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