Author Topic: "Monsignor" Patrick J Perez (Read 44874 times)

Thorn · « **Reply #65 on:** January 14, 2012, 08:50:01 PM »

Thanks for the links RonCal. What MHFM wrote is basically what Perez said from the pulpit about Fr. Fama. The strange thing is that religious come & go at OLHC all the time with nothing said, so why the long explanation from the pulpit for Fr. Fama when he left? Just a rhetorical question - not much makes sense there.

RonCal26 · « **Reply #66 on:** January 14, 2012, 10:49:04 PM »

Father Perez can disparage a traditional priest for receiving episcopal ordination and say that such an action was not justifiable yet he is not mindful that he himself is a suspended priest under the Conciliar Church.

I read a letter sent by Institute of Christ the King to a diocesan priest for the Diocese of Orange which stated that Fr. Perez was suspended from exercising his ministry. Although he was suspended for unjust reasons nevertheless Canon Law forbids him from acting as a priest.

I remembered Padre Pio being censured by the Vatican from hearing confessions and offering public Masses. And Padre Pio never bypassed the sentence by exercising his ministry as an independent priest! So clearly, Fr. Perez's ministry violates John Paul II's Canon Law, but one may wonder if his suspension was removed since he was appointed monsignor.

Thorn · « **Reply #67 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:23:43 PM »

I never read or heard that he was suspended by ICK. I did read from ICK to a layman that Perez simply left them. The Diocese has put out warnings about Perez - perhaps it's the Diocese that says he's suspended? I know they made it clear that he is not authorized to offer Mass. You should have read the ridiculous letter one of the other priests at OLHC wrote to the priest whose bulletin he had seen that carried the announcement! As if the priest had anything to do with it! It was in ALL the Diocese's church bulletins.

As I said - Perez's past is a bit cloudy.

RonCal26 · « **Reply #68 on:** January 15, 2012, 12:34:33 AM »

In regards to Fr. Perez's past... he was ordained in 1993 by Cardinal Alfons Maria Stickler, the retired Vatican archivist and former member of Vatican II's Consilium, the ecclesiastical body that created the New Mass and the New Sacraments.

Cardinal Stickler was a traditional Catholic, he supported the SSPX and recognized the New Sacraments to be defective. In fact, when he confirmed my friend in the pre-1971 Rite, Cardinal Stickler blessed the chrism oil using the traditional Roman rite and not the New Rite discreetly implying his disdain for the Paul VI's reforms.

Though Cardinal Stickler had the True Faith, the pious prelate was consecrated in the New Rite of Episcopal Consecration by Pope John Paul II. As a result, many traditional Catholics with strict views on validity, don't recognize Fr. Perez as a real priest.

Dr. Thomas Droleskey, once a loyal supporter of Fr. Perez, became a sedevacantist recently and no longer regards the latter a true priest.

Thorn · « **Reply #69 on:** January 15, 2012, 04:20:23 PM »

I started lurking on this forum when I read about SGG through Dr. Droleskey. I saw so many problems with Perez (another longstanding problem that I haven't touched on here, finally caused me to walk.) I felt so alone as most of the people there put up with him, or worse, - never even saw a problem. Misery loves company you know! As I've stated I wasn't the only one to leave in disgust, but I wasn't really friends with them - I just knew them or knew of them.

Anyway, after reading about SGG, CMRI, SSPV & experiencing OLHC, I'm beginning to agree more & more with those with a 'strict view on validity'. I also disagree with the poster here (Can't remember who) who writes about 'sentimental fiftyism'. My parents & all those I grew up with in the 50's were far from sentimental. They were down to earth, salt of the earth kind of people who were no-nonsense Catholics. They'd feel right at home with St. Peter I do believe, so I don't know what he's talking about. The ONE true church has been fractured into a thousand warring groups, so now we see Catholics fighting Catholics instead of the outside enemy - all the while going to church praying for UNITY! And no, I don't have the answer.

To get back to Perez - I was mainly referring to the different seminaries he was in & also the churches he pastored in Europe & why he left them all, or was he asked to leave? He seems to be mum on all that. I know about his ordination by Cardinal Stickler, but how & when did he meet the author of Absinthe??