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Offline Thorn

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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2012, 12:33:14 PM »
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  • Pepsuber - You have a problem with his new title which he did get from the pope through a Bishop that he met in India, but have no problem with him using a 19-20 year old straw subdeacon??!!!  Can you explain?

    s2srea - If your sister knew what I knew you wouldn't need to hit her over the head!  I don't know if some things are still on the 'net, but try Googling him for some eye-opening stuff for a trad priest to be interested in.  No, nothing sinful really, at least for a layman, but rather A LOT of worldly interests for a trad priest.  Not to speak of the utter waste of time & money.  
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    « Reply #46 on: January 01, 2012, 12:54:22 PM »
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  • WARNING - Do not click on the website 'Fr. Patrick J Perez' as there's a warning that it has dangerous downloads (or something like that)  I can't find all the things I found before when I Googled.  They're either too far back or have been removed.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14


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    « Reply #47 on: January 02, 2012, 11:26:49 AM »
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    Pepsuber - You have a problem with his new title which he did get from the pope through a Bishop that he met in India, but have no problem with him using a 19-20 year old straw subdeacon??!!!  Can you explain?

    In each case it's the lack of information that's the key. I don't want to condemn Fr. Perez over the straw subdeacon because I don't know the circuмstances. On the other hand, the new title raises a host of questions. I've never heard of a bishop requesting the title for a priest not of his own diocese, let alone a priest not of his own ritual church. It's not knowing the circuмstances in this case that makes it disturbing.

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    « Reply #48 on: January 03, 2012, 09:30:16 PM »
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    Pepsuber - You have a problem with his new title which he did get from the pope through a Bishop that he met in India, but have no problem with him using a 19-20 year old straw subdeacon??!!!  Can you explain?

    In each case it's the lack of information that's the key. I don't want to condemn Fr. Perez over the straw subdeacon because I don't know the circuмstances. On the other hand, the new title raises a host of questions. I've never heard of a bishop requesting the title for a priest not of his own diocese, let alone a priest not of his own ritual church. It's not knowing the circuмstances in this case that makes it disturbing.


       Perhaps we could ask "Monsignor" Wach of the ICK to settle the question for us? :facepalm:
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    « Reply #49 on: January 04, 2012, 10:46:14 PM »
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  • Thorn, would the type of interests referred to include this from the educate-yourself website?

    Subject: Re: New Photos of Black Beams in SoCal.
    From: "pp918" redacted
    Date: Sat, May 19, 2007
    To: Editor

    Dear Ken,

    Here they are. I have reduced the size of the files for easier emailing, but should you or anyone else want the larger pixel images to blow them up better or play around with them (as in enhance them as was done to some of the other photos on your site, to make the beams more distinct... I don't have the programs for doing all that myself), I can email them one at a time or send them on a cd.

    As for my parishioners being informed about all this, yes they are up to speed on chemtrails, the irs, the fed, all that and more. We are a traditional Catholic parish, one that has kept the old Latin Mass the way it was before and so are used to having to fight the system on virtually everything, so the people here are kind of different and into all that stuff, you might say. In any case, they're no strangers to chemtrails for the most part. There may be some of the little old ladies we don't want to bother with the gory details, you realize, but in general, they've got the picture.

    Once again, thank you for all your hard work to inform the public.

    God bless!
    Fr.Patrick J. Perez



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    « Reply #50 on: January 06, 2012, 11:37:10 PM »
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  • Yes, Talavera, that's one!  Can you imagine how those 'little old ladies' would feel if they only knew how condescending he speaks of them?  And it's those 'little old ladies' that put some big bucks into that church.  

    That website is quite New Age & into some mighty strange stuff.
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    « Reply #51 on: January 07, 2012, 08:23:28 PM »
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  • You're right about that. They would have a fit if they knew. Wonder how Msgr. Perez justifies leading his congregation in those directions. :heretic: That site borders on paranoia in places.

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    « Reply #52 on: January 07, 2012, 08:40:33 PM »
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  • He really doesn't lead his congregation into that stuff.  He has his inner circle that he talks to & socializes with & the rest he basically ignores, except for his puerile sermons on History splattered with one-liners that he giggles at.
    That site is worse than just paranoid.  It's into witchcraft, the occult, & some far-out stuff.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14


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    « Reply #53 on: January 09, 2012, 02:28:55 PM »
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  • Sorry, but I see that some websites that he's posted on are hard to find now, so let me give you a few.  They all have reviews that he's written.

    1. Red Cloud Cigar Martini Bar & Billiards in Fullerton.  This is now closed & I can't bring up his glowing review of the place.  His was one of 7 reviews & written 12/30/04.  His title for it is, 'What a rare & great place!'  In part he writes '... comfortable & the people working there were friendly & helpful.  I enjoyed the evening. It is a great place to meet cigar-smoking ........'  By Fr. Patrick Perez from Garden Grove.  I didn't print this out till 2010 so this was all that was posted then.  Sorry I didn't print it out when I first found it in its entirety.

    2. BlanketWorx.com    Click on Testimonials on the right & go to the bottom of p. 17. He wrote this 9/4/08.   Gushy, gushy.

    3. Ringingcedarsofrussia.org    Go to Store & scroll past the books to click on Spoons on the right.  Then click on Comments.  He wrote this 9/21/07.  They are $11.50 for 2. He also ordered a bag of shelled cedar nuts & a cedar wood pendant.(!!!)  Since the nuts are no longer in stock you can't see the review but he says, 'These are the best I have ever tasted.  Whatever about their "cosmic energy". I have never had any sweeter or tastier than these (Is that what "cosmic energy" does to them?'  The nuts are $24.95 for 17.6 oz.

    4.  Google 'Absinthe the Sip of Seduction'.  They used to show a few pages of the book & one of those pages had the Acknowledgments & there, in alphabetical order, is Fr. Patrick J. Perez.  I don't think they show that page any more but some libraries carry the book. I understand that he did the translation for the Absinthe Museum.  

    All these things are his own words that he proudly put on the 'net for all to see.  He also did a review for a Trinidad cigar company but I can't find it now.  I'm quite sure that there are many, many more reviews 'out there', but this should give you a taste of the man in his own words.  I guess the moral of this is if you go to that church you better put in big bucks cuz this man has expensive tastes.

     

    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    « Reply #54 on: January 09, 2012, 05:45:05 PM »
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  • Something strange is happening.   Right after I posted, I Googled Absinthe & the book came up & I clicked on 'See inside this book'  & it showed Perez's name as the translator for the Foreword by Marie-Claude Delahaye.  I thought this must be the 2nd ed. as his name wasn't there in the first one (only in the Acknowledgments).  An hour or so later I thought I'd post to tell you this, checked again, & now his name is gone!!!!!!  I've tried several times & no luck.   What's on the 'net now is the Revised Ed.  If you can't find his name you can get the book in the library.

    Anyway, a shame that a trad priest has to moonlight by translating for a book on hallucinogenic drinks.  
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    « Reply #55 on: January 12, 2012, 02:21:48 AM »
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  • Y'know, "Msgr" Perez has a lot of time on his hands. Don't think it is beneath him to follow this thread (he probably has been informed about it) and make 'edits' to various things that are brought up, deleting old reviews, emailing old friends to remove his name from acknowledgments in books about odd, hallucinogenic interests, etc.

    If you're going to note something here, be sure to screen capture *at least* before you post it.


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    « Reply #56 on: January 12, 2012, 08:22:07 AM »
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  • Indeed he does have lots of time on his hands!!  He whines & complains from the pulpit if he has to go a distance to say Mass & actually stopped going that distance.  Too much time away from the beloved computer I guess.  I've only given a few things to show the caliber of the man.  I have also noted that there have been over 2700 views of this thread & only a few people have dared post.  Someone's watching!  btw I've been warned by someone I met only once a couple of years ago after I left his church to be careful, that I'm dealing with a hornet's nest.  This person was not smiling & wouldn't explain.  You're quite right about screen capturing things, I see.  
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    « Reply #57 on: January 12, 2012, 08:47:49 AM »
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  • Please be aware that when some people who spoke out against Fr. Paul Sretenovic (Fr. Perez's assistant priests) on some Internet blog, Fr. Sretenovic was informed by his parishioners which led him to write counter those bloggers with his argument.

    I think writing things about Fr. Perez could escalate to a public condemnation from the pulpit in my opinion.  I mean if he could do it to his former assistant priest (who was consecrated a bishop in secret by Thuc-line bishops) then likewise Fr. Perez could do it again to the one who started this thread.  And mind you, he also spoke out against his assistant priest on The Remnant Newspaper.

    I'm a Roman Catholic who upholds the sedevacantist position.

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    « Reply #58 on: January 12, 2012, 09:15:44 AM »
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  • I'm fully aware of that.  (not the condemnation in the Remnant, however.  What issue was that?)  He's already threatened that.  That's why he's been dubbed the 'pope'.  He's got the bully pulpit & everyone knows it & dares not speak.  I'm sick to death of cowardly Catholics.

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    « Reply #59 on: January 12, 2012, 10:03:16 AM »
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  • I didn't know Fr. Perez was categorized as, in my own paraphrased understanding, a slanderer by the Remnant Newspaper or some traditional Catholic periodical?

    I find his political stances as a traditional Catholic to be contradicting..

    He follows the pre-1955 rubrics which for me a schismatic behavior because the Roman Pontiff has the authority to modify rubrics in the Church since rubrics are malleable according to Bishop Louis Morrow, a missionary prelate with a theology doctorate and contemporary of Pope Pius XII.  And the twist is, he follows the mandate of Pope John XXIII in allowing laymen to act as straw-deacon in a Solemn High Mass.  That's using a pre-1955 Liturgy with a tweak of a 1960 reform?  When I was in the Seminary, all our liturgical books were 1955.  It would be unheard of to use the 1965 rubrics and say, let's say the Epistle and Gospel in English because Rome said it's okay while using the 1955 Liturgy!  

    His congregation (a majority of them) are SSPX supporters yet many of them don't realize that the SSPX doesn't recognize the 1971 New Rite of Confirmation as valid. I mention this because some of his parishioners disparaged me for condemning the New Rite of Confirmation and for me saying they have to be conditionally confirmed.  One of them condemned it as sedevacantist agenda.  

    I was like, "When I went to the SSPX as a kid, I had to read Archbishop Lefebvre's book, 'An Open Letter to Confused Catholics' where he says the New Rite of Confirmation is invalid and many Novus Ordo priests may not be real priests because of a defect of intention by the Vatican II bishops".  Mind you, the people that disparaged me from Fr. Perez's chapel are SSPX supporters.  They support an organization that they don't even know about or let alone what it believes.  

    Their logical reasoning is almost like me saying, "I support Planned Parenthood but I don't know they carry out abortions.  You can't tell me they do abortions because that's so extreme to accept".

    He disparages this Catholic priest for being consecrated a traditional bishop by a Thuc-line prelate in the East Coast.  He says it wasn't necessary, in the Remnant Newspaper, since the SSPX episcopal consecrations were justifiable.  Does Fr. Perez realize that Archbishop Lefebvre didn't want his flock to be left without true sacraments?  I remembered his public sermon before the 1988 episcopal ordinations, Msgr. Lefebvre said, "Shall the faithful rely on doubtful sacraments" as result of doubtful intentions from Novus Ordo bishops.

    In regards to the former priest that worked with him (who is now a traditional bishop), that bishop didn't go to Old Catholics.  He turned to a Roman Catholic bishop upon the advice of Dr. Rama Coomaraswamy, a SSPX seminary professor and sedevacantist teacher to Fr. Anthony Cekada and Bishop Daniel Dolan.  And so I rest my case... if it's okay for Fr. Cekada's seminary professor then likewise it's okay for me.




    I'm a Roman Catholic who upholds the sedevacantist position.