Author Topic: "Monsignor" Patrick J Perez (Read 43888 times)

s2srea · « **on:** November 08, 2011, 12:30:36 PM »

Does anyone know about this??

From FE

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Pray for Monsignor Patrick J. Perez who was given the honor of Monsignor this past Sunday at Our Lady Help of Christians in Garden Grove, CA, by His Excellency Bishop Joseph Mar Thomas of the Eparchy of Bathery in India. He has been a true soldier of Christ since 1993, when he was ordained by Cardinal Stickler. He labored within the Institute of Christ the King until such time that they abandoned him. Without an assignment, he set up shop with Father Frderick Schell (who died in 2002), in Orange County, CA. He has labored in the wasteland of Mahoneyville and his buddy Bishop Brown, both haters of Catholic tradition, and have provided an oasis of Faith in this diocese, while the Bishop was busy shutting down Mases in other locals. Now the parish has four priests and over a thousand families. We ask the prayers for Monsignor that he may continue to be steadfast in his love of Christ and maintaining the traditions. Thank you.

Is +Mar Thomas the one who gives jurisdiction to Fr. Gruner? Whats the point of receiving a "Monsignor"ship in Traddie land??

Thorn · « **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2011, 09:58:57 PM »

To make yourself look more important than you are?

ServantOfTheAlmighty · « **Reply #2 on:** November 10, 2011, 12:14:42 AM »

Was Fr. Perez validly ordained?

Rosemary · « **Reply #3 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:13:18 PM »

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Was Fr. Perez validly ordained?

Fr. Perez was ordained by the late Alfons Maria Cardinal Stickler, who was a valid priest, but was "consecrated bishop" in the new (invalid rite) of anti-pope Paul VI.

If a priest has the fullness of the priesthood, than Fr. Perez is valid. If it takes a bishop to validly ordain, than Fr. Perez is not valid.

There is a posit that a priest has the fullness of the priesthood, but that an interdict has been placed on him. This means that a priest has the power, but not the permission to ordain other priests, and that the title of bishop is merely an office. I would really like more information regarding this. This topic seems to be shrouded in mystery.

Rosemary · « **Reply #4 on:** November 11, 2011, 11:29:09 AM »

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Quote from: ServantOfTheAlmighty
Was Fr. Perez validly ordained?

Fr. Perez was ordained by the late Alfons Maria Cardinal Stickler, who was a valid priest, but was "consecrated bishop" in the new (invalid rite) of anti-pope Paul VI.

I forgot to add that Fr. Perez was ordained in the valid Latin Rite (not the new Paul VI rite) by "Cardinal" Stickler.