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Offline tdrev123

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"Magicians" Prove a Spiritual World Exists
« on: November 09, 2015, 01:25:52 PM »
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  • What's your take on the DimBros New Video?



    Offline Stubborn

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    « Reply #1 on: November 09, 2015, 02:26:31 PM »
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  • I personally believe that there is much more than slight of hand or illusions involved in a lot of magic tricks - far as I'm concerned, I'm certain that these magicians invoke the devil and that demonic activity is used.

    I worked with a guy who was a really good amateur magician with card tricks and coins, it was really something to see him do some of those tricks - -he even showed me how he actually did them, it's pretty funny once you see how he actually does it, mostly with really fast hands while your attention is distracted for just an instant, but some of those things these magicians do can only come from hell.    
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


    Offline ClarkSmith

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    « Reply #2 on: November 09, 2015, 03:29:59 PM »
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  •  Magic is the art of deceiving people.     Magicians get pleasure from deceiving their audience. It does not surprise many of them are heavy into the occult. Magic is an old pagan practice. In the Middle Ages, magicians would perform to small audiences while their partner robbed the distracted crowd.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #3 on: November 09, 2015, 05:36:40 PM »
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    I know a magician who is very skilled with playing-card tricks.  I have seen him do things with cards, up close and personal, that appear to be logically and physically impossible.  Having no way of knowing what makes his tricks work, I figured that he must have spent a lot of time practicing to get his craft perfected, in fact he confirmed this is what he has done.  But I thought that it must be all based on a special talent he has to make it possible for him to simulate miracles, basically.  

    If it were some kind of spiritual force at work, and if my acquaintance is able to somehow invoke the assistance of demons, it would make sense if he could get help with a problem or puzzle with which he is not familiar, relying on the demon's help to solve the puzzle.  After all, if regular people can solve a puzzle quickly, certainly a demon could as well.  

    On this basis, I offered him a cast metal puzzle, called "Coaster" made by a Japanese company, Hanayama.  (Look it up.)  I had expected that he would be able to work it, which means take it apart and put it back together.  He got it apart okay, which anyone can do quite easily, but he gave up trying to put it back together.  

    His apparent inability to reassemble the 3 rings was a surprise to me, for I had expected him to do it, perhaps with some effort for a few minutes.  But he resigned without comment instead.

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    Offline trad123

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    « Reply #4 on: November 09, 2015, 08:08:22 PM »
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  • I found this site for some explanations:

    http://www.secrets-explained.com/


    YouTube was also useful


    1:43, levitating card

    another video:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/sSb5rCkxYC8[/youtube]


    and some other objects:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/H6vOaCBsWJM[/youtube]




    The show at 2:47 with the head

    another video:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/C8GlDsps6QA[/youtube]



    3:02, biting the coin

    another video:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/q21ivFtBQXs[/youtube]


    36:20 levitation of David Blaine

    This seems much more plausible:

    http://www.secrets-explained.com/david-blaine/levitation


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    This is a mixture of several techniques. The method he used to convince the spectators that he was levitating is called Balducci levitation. However, what you see on the video is not just Balducci levitation. He goes far too high and you can clearly see both his feet go off the ground. Instead, Blaine used some clever video editing. First, he performed the Balducci levitation for the spectators and filmed their reactons. He then recorded the levitation scene you can see in the video separately, without the audience and with the help of wires. Both recordings were edited together so you think that the spectators saw the same thing you did.

    Pay attention to the spectators. You can't really see them during the levitation. All you see is some clothing which could easily be duplicated afterwards. By the time you see them again, Blaine has already landed and their reactions are shown.



    36:22 eliminated cards from deck

    another video:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/uonnpPYLIYE[/youtube]
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 09, 2015, 09:34:14 PM »
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  • I watched probably two minutes of the dimond video before I turned it off.  Whether it is real or fake, I do not know.  But, I do know that I don't like it.  And, I do not need to feast my eyes on it.
    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15

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    « Reply #6 on: November 09, 2015, 11:05:46 PM »
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  • The Dimond Bros stole the idea to make this video from a very popular series on Youtube called Demon Magicians.

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    « Reply #7 on: November 10, 2015, 08:08:36 AM »
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  • Wasn't Houdini involved with seances and the occult?
    May God bless you and keep you