I'd like to add something to this statement about criticism of Obama. Lord knows I have no respect for this man but I find it irritating when it comes to this libertarian nonsense about unlimited freedom and how somehow Obama is going to take away the guns, become the next Vladimir Lenin, take America into "1984," etc. all of which is absolutely rediculous I might add. Obama is a liberal and liberals for one support unlimited freedom, which Obama does support I might add, since he supports ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and abortion, supports Hollywood, etc.

Obama is an opportunist. He cares about what is most popular in the polls. He would never endanger his career. In that light he knows that any restriction on guns, liberty, etc. would lead to a backlash.

Finally I'd like to add I find it strange how everyone is going on about "Obama this, Obama that" as if Obama was the one who got us into this mess we have today. Remember that Bush was still holding the reins and the crisis we had started even before Bush. In fact our former President Mr. Bush was converted to a liberal and Trotskyite doctrine, Clinton was a moderate liberal, and we could keep going all the way back.

Obama is very dangerous and freedom is not a bad word.

Particularly the freedom he wants to take away.

The Left is now in a position with partisan support that is very solid.

Obama can push to the limit without serious electoral consequences, and that's just what he's planning to do.

Obama is a Leftist revolutionary, and people are right to be alarmed.

Freedom for women? Already have that.

Big-Government Spending? That has been going on for decades.

Taking away the guns? Not going to happen.

Abortion? Already have that.

Contraception? Already have that.

Blacks emboldened? Already have that.

Wars in the Middle East? Actually more would have happened under Romney.

Open borders and immigration? Again been going on for a while now.

Free trade? That has been going on for decades.

Vile culture? Already have that.

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity? Already have that.

The family has already been destroyed. If you've seen the birthrates no European country will survive into the next century with its original inhabitants, and instead will be replaced by Third World immigrants.

I didn't say things won't get worse I said that the "causes" of the collapse so to speak have been written on the wall for a long time.

And you accuse other people of exaggerating? There are lots of families.  Whether they are allowed to continue to exist as autonomously as they have, on the other hand, is up in the air right now.

I have never accused anyone of exaggerating, but anyway...

According to the statistics each woman of European descent will have to have 8 or 9 children to keep the birthrates up to their original level.

There are a lot of gαy "families" too by the way, at least according to the liberals who provide freedom to sodomites. :wink:

Yeah and Obama is overtly pushing that.

No disagreement there, but ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is not new. Weimar Germany, Rome, and the 1960's revolutions were times when it was supported overtly just like Obama.

Anyway we're getting away from the main point here. Is authoritarianism bad if used for a moral purpose?

What does that have to do with "King Obama" or "Obama the Dictator"

You don't like Obama being criticized for trying to usurp power and run roughshod over Congress?

Because that's what he's planning to do.

I have no problems with Obama being criticized but Presidents have always usurped power over Congress.

I used the term in the title to denote authoritarianism and wonder if a right-wing tyrant would be supported just as much as a Saul Alinsky radical like Obama is loathed?

Traditional Guy,

Your posts expressing your anger reflect a collectivist attitude.  Remember, what "society" or "others at large" are doing doesn't mean that it applies to you or to others.  I mean, if abortion being legal and encouraged doesn't mean that the lovely ladies at the Traditional Chapels are visiting abortion clinics.  And it also means that you have to think for yourself and behave in a manner that is consistent with Traditional Catholicism and have to remain aloof from the culture at large, which we as individuals can't fix.  

Live a Catholic life.  

Bemoan the common culture.

Do not be deluded into thinking that joining up with some political activist group will make a significant difference.

Read the classics (Catholic and Secular, read the great liberal writers too).

A Catholic's soul is saved by adhering to the Catholic faith and if Providence put you into such a morally wretched time as this it's for a reason.  So find that reason.  

Ahem, ahem.

Let's study our Catholic history here.  Before we begin, let's remember that "free" trade, "free" elections, "free" capitalism, "free" speech, a "free" Church in a "free" State, that all those things have been destroyed long before 2013.  "Democracy"?  Destroyed by the 1880s.  "Free enterprise"?  Destroyed by the 1940s.  What F.D.R. destroyed in the 1930s was simply an Oligarchy.  "Democracy" had gone the way of the Doh-Doh Birds generations before that.

To prattle on in 2013 about our endangered "free" capitalism, "free" democracy, "free" constitutional government is like talking about how we are now living in the Assyrian Empire and Ninevah is our capital city.  Today markets are manipulated to heck and back, not "free."  Today elections are manipulated to heck and back, not "free."  Today the bogus make-believe courts are manipulated to heck and back, not "free."  And so forth and so on.

The real history of our "Modern" Age has gone through a similar pattern to that of the Ancient
World:  timeocracy, aristocracy, democracy, oligarchy, dictatorship and tyranny.  By now we're far along into the "tyranny" phase.  VERY far along!  Basically our "Dear Leader" "St. Obamy" either eats babies for breakfast or may as well.  If the "Dear Glorious One" isn't a cannibal, he may as well be.  Yes, and with a bone through his nose!!  But not because we're back in 1850 with endangered "free rights."  Rather, because we're back in the MIDDLE AGES with a vengeance.

In short, we are NOT in the year 1850.  We're more like in the year 450 and "Dear Attila" is getting ready to pile up some mountains of skulls in the town squares.  We're in a day when our St. Genevieve should be praying on the walls of Paris to spare us from "the Huns" and King Arthur should be honing his fighting skills to take on Mordred while our men go on and on about our endangered civilization of 1855.  2013 is not 1855!!

So, meanwhile, back on planet Earth: "Mes chers amis," what planet are we ACTUALLY living on at the present time?  Well, please open one's eyes.  Shouldn't we perhaps "get a life"?  Hello, anybody in there?  

My dear Brothers-in-Christ, let us peer a bit between the brainless Bolshevik Agitprop headlines.  What do we see?  Well, yes, battle lines being drawn for WWIII.  This is so very unsubtle that one should wonder why so few Catholic men seem to be noticing such a supremely crude and gross news item.  Attila is preparing his Armies at the gates and we can't even notice such a lowly detail while we're so busy living in our fantasy land of 1855.  Yes, our media even go on and on blubbering about the poor oppressed Negroes as if Dear Father Abraham Lincoln were about to "free" the poor little black slaves.  Who also don't exist in 2013!

So, again, meanwhile back on planet Earth...  We live in the anti-Catholic tyranny of tyrannies at the End of Days, not in a "free" Republic.  The Russkies & Associates are preparing to storm the walls.  Their nukes are very much bigger than "our" nukes.  Their Spetnatz is very much more well-honed than the homicidal lesbians and pseudo-male idiot prostitutes that compose "our" fighting forces (or more like our "gαy rights welfare bums" back here in the "real" world).  Are "our" military "gαy" welfare bums going to do well up against the Spetnatz & Company?  Will N.A.T.O. even show up?  They will more likely be too busy spending their military welfare checks and agitating for more "gαy rights" to lower themselves to anything so male as military activities.

However we Catholic men should not suffer from any such inhibitions!  We should be preparing for what is now on all our horizons.  The real-life Conversion of Russia approaches and we should now be dealing with it. In brief, what deal are we going to make with the Spetnatz & Company?  THAT deal is going to be the Conversion of Russia!!  The Russian Bear is hungry, he is at this moment going about for whom he shall devour and it is our Roman Catholic military duty to ensure that our own people are NOT on the Great Bear's bloody menu!  Let them devour our Most Glorious Leader and his Most Glorious Tyranny to their heart's content, but GOD FORBID that the Great Bear should harm so much as a hair on the heads of any of OUR people.        

So we have an important and momentous conversation to undertake now with the Russian Bear.  Whom shall he devour and whom shall he not devour?  A most important conversation for the future well-being of our Roman Catholic people!

This is NOT the time for us to imitate Reb Butler on the verge of the War Between the States.  No, this is the time for us to imitate Pope St. Leo the Great and have a CONVERSATION with the Hunnic Attila now at our gates to ensure that HE SHALL SPARE ROME ONCE AGAIN!!!

My good Brothers-in-Christ, that is the world we now live in.  So let us speak no more about our allegedly endangered rights.  (What rights?) Instead let us prepare our military and speaking skills and ensure the safety and well-being of our own Roman people in the dangerous and blood-drenched days of war that now await us.