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Offline Stubborn

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"I do Yoga only for the exercise."
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2016, 04:47:27 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    I thought that the yoga poses were inspired by and honor devils so that when you do those stretches and those poses you are worshipping devils.

    That's what we were taught after yoga started becoming popular, which of course was not until after V2. Before that, trying to contort one's body into unnatural positions was said to be imitating a snake - that's what Hindu's do -  and the meditation that is always associated with yoga is inviting the devil into your soul. That's what we were taught and that's what I believe.



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    What would you say to those Novus Ordos who say such a thing? Those who say they don't meditate or any of that but just "do it for the exercise/stretching"?

    I would say like Last Tradhican, if you're going to exercise, then exercise for your health, don't try to mimic or imitate movements of the snake, which is a symbol of the devil, under the auspices of exercise. I also think that those who are really into it will find they end up meditating whether they planned on it or not, that's just the way it works.

     
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    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


    Offline josefamenendez

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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #16 on: November 30, 2016, 08:07:14 PM »
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  • Yes. The point of kundalini yoga is to release the "snake" that is thought to dwell in the base of your spine. The positions and contortions are to do just that.
    I always wanted to do yoga for the "exercise" and stretching but I refrained because I never forgot this.
     This is a hard argument to make to people that have experienced physical benefits from yoga.


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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #17 on: December 01, 2016, 09:17:25 AM »
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  • Quote from: Mithrandylan
    Here's a chart of yoga poses:



    Anyone who contends that it's a sin for the body to be in any of the positions on that chart needs to get a Baltimore Catechism and look up "sin".  

    I can't tell you how many times each day I inadvertently look like one of those pictures.  And I'm about as flexible as a four-hundred year old tree.


    How can you "inadvertently" get in a child, or sunbird, or cow, or the popular sukhasana?

    Only a couple of those poses, like the plank, standing forward bend, seated angle pose, high lunge, low warrior, and perhaps the inclined plane, are "normal" in the sense that you would perhaps do them for stretching purposes without knowing anything about Yoga; I agree that Yoga can't claim ownership over any of these natural positions.

    But all the rest look indecent and positions which I don't think anyone would get in if it weren't for Yoga's influence.

    What's more, i don't think it's at all decent or proper to get in those positions in public in front of a mixed class.

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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #18 on: December 02, 2016, 04:14:06 PM »
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    Problem: Yoga is a development of a diabolical spirituality.
    Solution: Let's call it stretching to enhance flexibility and move on to something that matters.

    You're welcome.


    Quote from: St Ignatius
    Yoga and martial arts are very similar in many ways. The primary similarity is the emptying of the mind. This is done by using oriental methods from pagan religions, mostly Hindu. This is always diabolical.


    Key point for men! Martial arts too!

    Especially in the more serious combat arts, you will find people who seek power, not just physical power, but also demonic power. Many practitioners overtly summon the assistance of demons (though they sometimes deny the forces are demons). The "empty the mind" techniques, usually encountered at higher levels, are an invitation for demons to occupy that "empty" space, the same danger as with "harmless" meditation techniques. An "empty" (receptive) state in proximity to demons attached to others, your training partners and/or teachers, is a recipe for disaster.

    This is not a theoretical concern, but a real danger. I think it is essential for all men to learn how to fight, both armed and unarmed. How does one learn effective combat arts without succuмbing to the demonic dangers?

    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #19 on: December 06, 2016, 05:02:20 PM »
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  • Catholics should avoid yoga.  If they want to stretch and exercise, buy a manual with instructions.  There are many gyms that one can join and when signed up they can exercise or stretch in any manner they want without touching yoga.  

    Also, if someone joins a gym they will have to fight to keep their eyes off the immodest women's attire.  It's really bad in a gym because many of the women are very fit and they want to flaunt it.  As for myself, if I leave my prescription glasses in my car, a woman could be almost completely nude just 20 feet from me and I probably wouldn't notice.  Others here may have better eyesight so they will have to devise some other plan to refrain from seeing what is there in every gym in the U.S.


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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #20 on: December 07, 2016, 02:27:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: Disputaciones
    Quote from: Mithrandylan
    Here's a chart of yoga poses:



    Anyone who contends that it's a sin for the body to be in any of the positions on that chart needs to get a Baltimore Catechism and look up "sin".  

    I can't tell you how many times each day I inadvertently look like one of those pictures.  And I'm about as flexible as a four-hundred year old tree.


    How can you "inadvertently" get in a child, or sunbird, or cow, or the popular sukhasana?

    Only a couple of those poses, like the plank, standing forward bend, seated angle pose, high lunge, low warrior, and perhaps the inclined plane, are "normal" in the sense that you would perhaps do them for stretching purposes without knowing anything about Yoga; I agree that Yoga can't claim ownership over any of these natural positions.

    But all the rest look indecent and positions which I don't think anyone would get in if it weren't for Yoga's influence.

    What's more, i don't think it's at all decent or proper to get in those positions in public in front of a mixed class.


    Six of those, half a dozen of the other.

    What I've been saying from the very beginning is that if you take yoga poses and remove all of the eastern style meditation and philosophy, you're left with nothing more than a body whose muscles are contorted or flexed to produce a particular position.

    You have removed the formal element of sin, which is the intellect's apprehension of something against God, and the will acting toward it.  You're not sinning anymore than a person who inadvertently falls from a tall height commits the sin of ѕυιcιdє.

    I agree that some of those poses wouldn't be particularly decent in a public and mixed setting.  I was under the impression from your OP that the people you met were doing it in the privacy of their own home.  If they're going to actual yoga classes, then it seems difficult to justify on a variety of grounds.  Besides the public indecency, they're exposing themselves needlessly to the very part of yoga that makes yoga problematic: the philosophical/quasi-religious aspect.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #21 on: December 07, 2016, 05:08:16 PM »
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  • The devil is deceitful and a liar.  He will lead you slowly to himself.  He will teach you to justify anything to his ends.

    Ask your Doctor for excercise sheets;  he'll be more than happy to give them to you and possibly some personal advice too!

    Don't rist getting burnt.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #22 on: December 07, 2016, 10:29:05 PM »
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    You're not sinning anymore than a person who inadvertently falls from a tall height commits the sin of ѕυιcιdє.


    No but if you put yourself in a dangerous situation of going too close to a high precipice, your enemy is beside you with the thought of pushing you, then the physical consequence will be the same whether you fall or jump.

    Why put your soul at risk, when there are sound ways of exercising your body?
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


    Offline Stubborn

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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #23 on: December 08, 2016, 05:10:49 AM »
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  • Quote from: Nadir

    Why put your soul at risk, when there are sound ways of exercising your body?


    Exactly. Just knowing yoga is a Hindu practice is enough to run from it, not tamper with it because it's "just stretching" or it's "just" another form of exercise - I don't know but I think Hindus take it much more serious than that.



     
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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #24 on: December 18, 2016, 11:46:39 AM »
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  • Hear it straight from a witch's mouth posted today on Spirit Daily.  Yoga is bad.


    http://spiritdaily.org/blog/uncategorized/occult-watch-an-ex-witch-exposes-yoga
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #25 on: December 18, 2016, 06:44:14 PM »
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  • Chances are this "person" is not in Yoga, alone.  They go for the others they wish to be with.  If this person "bows" out, he or she would have to explain themselves.  Who would want to be in that "position".

    Try the position of kneeling with hand holding a rosary and "meditating" on the mysteries.  It is known to lower the blood pressure with in minutes. relaxes the muscles, and Power from a True God!

    You can't find that in yoga!  He or she just wasted their time on earth.  


    Offline Steve Hanniwald

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    "I do Yoga only for the exercise."
    « Reply #26 on: December 20, 2016, 02:11:04 PM »
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  • All yoga is preparation for meditation. Yoga is practiced in all forms of Hinduism. The most advanced forms of yoga involve siddhis, which give the practitioner God-like powers. Siddhis include tumo (the power to generate heat within the body), chulen (the power to live without eating food), the power to run long distances without stopping for rest, the power to become large/small or invisible, the power to read minds... the list is actually quite long.

    The most advanced yoga involves lucid dreams and tulpa or thought form creation. The creation of other living beings (egregores, djinns, etc.) in real life may be included in these dream yoga efforts. Tulkus are individuals who are born through an immaculate conception (the Dalai Lama, the Panchen Lama, etc.). Tulkus are "willed" into existence by a mass population, when the time is ripe for them to come back to this world. Tulkus are essential tulpas that are born into a woman. Tulpas are born into manifest reality without relying on the body of a woman; it is far more direct. Tulpas may include any material object, and not just living beings. The ancient Bon religion (9,000+ years) and the Australian aborigine Dreamtime religion (60,000+ years) believe the same things.

    Dream yoga involves the awakening of the third eye. Once awakened, this allows the practitioner to remain "awake" or mentally aware no matter what activity is going on... sleep, work, and even death. This is supposedly the same "eternal life" that Christ talked about. The mind remains alert and aware without the body.

    Having experienced this state with the help of hallucinogens, I can tell you that the dull-colored smoke of Hell is right around the corner during these experiences. One must fight not to enter Hell.

    These experiences ultimately led me to traditional Catholicism. I am no longer a pagan. I am a follower of Christ. I am here to provide warning.