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Offline SimpleMan

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"But you must admit..." --- error and evil seeking approval
« on: October 31, 2021, 10:09:14 PM »
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  • I've noticed a common thread lately, and it breaks out something like this --- anyone else notice how the forces of error and evil are desperately "thirsty" to cajole the forces of tradition, both in the spiritual and secular realms, just to burn a few grains of incense at their altars, "come on, you must admit...", as though our approval of what they propose, is the only thing that stands between them and total victory for their causes?

    Examples:

    "Can you say for us, that you regard the 2020 elections as legitimate, and that they were not stolen?"

    "But you must admit, the Novus Ordo is just as good as the Traditional Latin Mass"

    And I also pick up on a kind of desperation from Anglicans, even though they don't come right out and say it, "would you be able to admit that our Eucharist, Orders, and sacraments are valid?".

    We as traditional Catholics aren't "thirsty" for anyone to agree with us.  It's nice if they do, but we don't "need" them.  Our Faith doesn't need anyone to come along and "ratify" it.  This says a lot.


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    Re: "But you must admit..." --- error and evil seeking approval
    « Reply #1 on: October 31, 2021, 10:30:47 PM »
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  • Good point.  I can see the younger generations asking these questions, because they need "validation".  


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    Re: "But you must admit..." --- error and evil seeking approval
    « Reply #2 on: November 01, 2021, 04:07:42 AM »
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  • I've noticed a common thread lately, and it breaks out something like this --- anyone else notice how the forces of error and evil are desperately "thirsty" to cajole the forces of tradition, both in the spiritual and secular realms, just to burn a few grains of incense at their altars, "come on, you must admit...", as though our approval of what they propose, is the only thing that stands between them and total victory for their causes?

    Examples:

    "Can you say for us, that you regard the 2020 elections as legitimate, and that they were not stolen?"

    "But you must admit, the Novus Ordo is just as good as the Traditional Latin Mass"

    And I also pick up on a kind of desperation from Anglicans, even though they don't come right out and say it, "would you be able to admit that our Eucharist, Orders, and sacraments are valid?".

    We as traditional Catholics aren't "thirsty" for anyone to agree with us.  It's nice if they do, but we don't "need" them.  Our Faith doesn't need anyone to come along and "ratify" it.  This says a lot.
    Excellent points. It's because if they really think about our position the cognitive dissonance sets in, they know at some level their position is not internally coherent. All you have to do is simply state the obvious and obliterate their position. 
    Asking why they need your approval is a great move too: gently prodding people outside the unity of the Church to seek God's approval rather than yours is a good way to set them up for success.
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    Re: "But you must admit..." --- error and evil seeking approval
    « Reply #3 on: November 01, 2021, 08:58:30 AM »
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  • Good point.  I can see the younger generations asking these questions, because they need "validation". 
    "Validation" --- that's the concept (and word) I was looking for.

    We, as traditional Catholics, don't look to one person in this world to "validate" us.

    It's pretty pathetic, to think of having to wheedle other people into telling someone that they're "okay".  Weakness of the will, if you ask me.  No offense to the ladies here, but it seems kind of feminine.