In otherwords, you are subject to the lies of Francis, subject to his bringing death to souls, subject to his distruction of the Church.No.

As I have repeatedly said, I remain the popes' good subject, but God's first. This is very basic Catholicity, an elementary Catholic principle, there is nothing complicated about this at all.

After having repeated this so many times, and after having it ignored as many times as it has been repeated, I can only conclude these words and their meaning are hidden from sedevacantists.

Mainly you are subject to a man who heads a new religion, which is not Catholic ... or do you believe his religion is Catholic?

I don't believe the man is Catholic, but as his subject I have nothing to say about it, I am in no position to do anything about it therefore that does not concern me. He will face His Judge same as we all will, that much we can be certain of.

What does concern me directly is that I have the dogma to worry about, always that dogma I concern myself with, which tells me it is absolutely necessary for me to be subject to the pope or I will never get to heaven. It's a very clear and stern direction that I must take serious or I won't get to heaven. THAT is the explicit direction that the Church gave to me and there is no mistaking it.    

He is the supreme authority, not me. Being the supreme authority, if he ever says anything Catholic which I need to concern myself with, I'll address it at that time and obey if I can, which means if his command is not sinful, as his good subject, I will obey - as long as it's not sinful because I am God's good subject first. In case you were actually able to see these words I just wrote, no doubt you will not have any understanding of them at all, so what I wrote, I wrote for the benefit of others who are possibly confused but not blinded.

Can you name even one thing he has commanded us to do that was not displeasing to God. Name just one and provide the source.

It also leads another sedevacantist on this thread to the belief that the church is the "harlot" as described in Sacred Scripture. Sedevacantism can lead one to extremes of thought.

Interesting Meg that you believe Vatican II is the Church, is the Catholic church; you see to me that is insulting God, who can NOT deceive nor be deceived.  It is you and those who continue to defend the new religion to extreme thoughts.  
Stubborn says, the Church is God, well the Bible says God, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever, it is in the book of Hebrew.  Look it up!

Stubborn think about YOUR words, you just admitted Francis is not Catholic, but you are subject to a non-Catholic man, who pretends to be a Pope.   Wake Up and smell the coffee!

Yes, be subject to the Pope, but the True Catholic ones, not a pretender.  

Can you name even one thing he has commanded us to do that was not displeasing to God. Name just one and provide the source. 

No pope has ever commanded us!   Francis teaches us to break the First Commanded, which is Divine Law.  

I don't as a rule quote from Wikipedia, but I'm too lazy to find another source, so I'll quote from wiki's definition of "Anarchism." Apparently, the term 'anarchy' come from the Greek term, "anarchos," meaning "one without rulers." That pretty much describes sedevacantists.

From wiki:

"Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates self-governed societies based on voluntary institutions. Those are often described as stateless societies, although several authors have defined them more specifically as institutions based on non-hierarchical free associations. Anarchism holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful."

Sounds like sedevacantism, though sedevacantism isn't necessarily political. Just substitute "the Church (well, conciliar church) for "state," and the correlation works well, though not entirely perhaps. 

Stubborn think about YOUR words, you just admitted Francis is not Catholic, but you are subject to a non-Catholic man, who pretends to be a Pope.   Wake Up and smell the coffee!

I see you could not see what I wrote again but FYI, I admitted that him not being a Catholic was my opinion, which holds no water whatsoever. And yes, I am his subject because I know of no way around the dogma. If you were not blinded, you would have been able to see and read - possibly even understand why I am his subject.

Yes, be subject to the Pope, but the True Catholic ones, not a pretender.  
No pope has ever commanded us!   Francis teaches us to break the First Commanded, which is Divine Law.

He did? Well I guess that I will just take your word for that and thanks! I would have not known had you not told me. For heaven's sake, don't listen to him. Ok?

Can you name even one thing he has commanded us to do that was not displeasing to God?  Name just one and provide the source. 

Exactly.  No law exists which commands us to sin.

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As far as Fr Wathen goes, you can visit his website and listen to sermons for free.  There may be a few on sedevacantism. 

www.fatherwathen.com

Exactly.  No law exists which commands us to sin.

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As far as Fr Wathen goes, you can visit his website and listen to sermons for free.  There may be a few on sedevacantism.

www.fatherwathen.com

I downloaded all the sermons that could be downloaded when his site was still up and have listened to most of them, he has some really, really awesome sermons but only one or two talking about sedevacantism. Here is one I found:  "In defense of the Papal Throne"

My guess is that he gave this sermon in the mid 80s.