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Offline AgentOfDust

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Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
« on: May 01, 2024, 12:09:12 PM »
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    • https://www.yahoo.com/news/step-back-time-americas-catholic-040718410.html

    I find it interesting the the top comment is centered around a straw man regarding Latin not being the language spoken by Jesus. It's almost as if these people are willfully not engaging with what's happening. The lukewarm are upset that they may no longer be the center of attention during worship, that modernity and relativism may no longer hold sway in the church and worst of all, that they may actually have some moral duties and obligations to God.
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    Offline MiracleOfTheSun

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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #1 on: May 01, 2024, 02:52:10 PM »
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    • "In 1970, more than half of America’s Catholics said they went to Mass at least once a week. By 2022, that had fallen to 17%, according to CARA, a research center affiliated with Georgetown University. Among millennials, the number is just 9%."

    And the vast majority of those who even remain don't believe in the Real Presence.  Must be the Great Apostasy?
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #2 on: May 01, 2024, 03:31:48 PM »
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    • What is left in novus Ordo are older women 70’s wanting to run the show.  They are lecturerers and there are many of them are handing out communion.  Many dream of becoming priestesses. 

    I know these women. Their home life is in ruins because they neglect their first ministry which is their own family.  Many are liberal women who vote pro choice and pro sodomite.  Most are a bunch of bossy jezabels who follow a false gospel.  The men and clergy are just there allowing these big show offs to run the church.






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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #3 on: May 01, 2024, 03:46:01 PM »
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    • I read most of that article. What a fascinating description. I don't think I've ever had anything good to say about anything in Yahoo News before, but that was extremely interesting.

    Interesting how it portrays all the new Novus Ordo clergy as being "conservative". I didn't know that.

    I wonder how accurate the general picture portrayed there is.
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #4 on: May 01, 2024, 05:48:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on May 01, 2024, 03:46:01 PM
    Interesting how it portrays all the new Novus Ordo clergy as being "conservative". I didn't know that.
    :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #5 on: May 01, 2024, 06:22:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on May 01, 2024, 03:31:48 PM
    "What is left in novus Ordo are older women 70’s wanting to run the show.  They are lecturerers and there are many of them are handing out communion.  Many dream of becoming priestesses. 

    I know these women. Their home life is in ruins because they neglect their first ministry which is their own family.  Many are liberal women who vote pro choice ..."
     I don't know what is happening in NO churches really...I don't investigate.  But my sister-in -law, now 72 years old, was so involved in the circus masses that I asked her, 6 years ago, if she was hoping to become a PRIESTESS. She was kindda angry with me, ...she was hoping the NO Church would allow women priests soon. So Viva knows more. But on the flip side, her daughter was deep in withcraft, feeling spirits in room corners blah blah. That niece is in her final year at university: wait for it...psychiatric nursing!!₩. Her older sister is attempting  to take her life now and then you see. All this probably caused my brother to die of a heart attack. May he R.I.P. +
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #6 on: May 02, 2024, 12:26:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on May 01, 2024, 03:46:01 PM
    Interesting how it portrays all the new Novus Ordo clergy as being "conservative". I didn't know that.

    Apart from the fact that the perception of center has slid so far to the left that the term is entirely relative, there was a bit of a conservative backlash against the extreme liberal pseudo-Catholics from the early days of the Conciliar Revolution, similar to a "dead cat bounce".  Once you hit a brick wall that hard, you can't help but bounce back a little in the opposite direction.
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #7 on: May 02, 2024, 09:32:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on May 01, 2024, 03:46:01 PM
    I read most of that article. What a fascinating description. I don't think I've ever had anything good to say about anything in Yahoo News before, but that was extremely interesting.

    Interesting how it portrays all the new Novus Ordo clergy as being "conservative". I didn't know that.

    I wonder how accurate the general picture portrayed there is.
    I have met and interacted with some recently-ordained diocesan clergy. This is true. Most of them, if not for their bishop, would have a weekly Tridentine Mass.
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #8 on: May 02, 2024, 10:34:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Minnesota on May 02, 2024, 09:32:30 AM
    I have met and interacted with some recently-ordained diocesan clergy. This is true. Most of them, if not for their bishop, would have a weekly Tridentine Mass.

    It's all going to come full circle one day, may have to translate the 1962 Missal into the vernacular to pacify those who just can't fathom the idea of Mass in a language they don't understand (something similar was done for the Mohawk Indians in the missionary days), but it'll happen.  May take 50 years, but it'll happen.  

    What man wants to be ordained a priest, only to celebrate a highly communal, improvised Mass with women running all about at the altar, and being told what to do by Susan From The Parish Council types?  And as to all of these vocations out of Africa, I read somewhere that 100 percent of African priests are not faithful to their promises of celibacy, and I have zero respect for that.
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #9 on: May 02, 2024, 11:44:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on May 02, 2024, 10:34:16 AM
    It's all going to come full circle one day, may have to translate the 1962 Missal into the vernacular to pacify those who just can't fathom the idea of Mass in a language they don't understand (something similar was done for the Mohawk Indians in the missionary days), but it'll happen.  May take 50 years, but it'll happen. 

    What man wants to be ordained a priest, only to celebrate a highly communal, improvised Mass with women running all about at the altar, and being told what to do by Susan From The Parish Council types?  And as to all of these vocations out of Africa, I read somewhere that 100 percent of African priests are not faithful to their promises of celibacy, and I have zero respect for that.
    Hate to break it to you but even traditional priests have to deal with overbearing church lady types.
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #10 on: May 02, 2024, 01:17:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 02, 2024, 12:26:11 AM
    Apart from the fact that the perception of center has slid so far to the left that the term is entirely relative
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    Interesting point, but the article did mention criteria it was using to define "conservative", and it included things like rejection of contraception and impurity in general, sermons on hell, Latin Mass, Gregorian chant, and other things that I would consider "conservative", although I'm not sure it's very precise to talk about Catholicism in such terms.
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #11 on: May 02, 2024, 04:49:47 PM »
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    • As always, what's the meta narrative. 

    -- clickbait, with "reader" comments mostly AI generated, to incite and track pushback especially re the timing of HR 609.
    -- opinion-management ahead of whatever fresh heresy is on the horizon out of the Vatican.
    -- sympathy-begging for the finances of the USCCB, its NGOs, and dioceses.
    -- ???

    Nothing's an accident or coincidence in the MSM anymore.
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #12 on: May 02, 2024, 06:39:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Soubirous on May 02, 2024, 04:49:47 PM
    As always, what's the meta narrative.

    -- clickbait, with "reader" comments mostly AI generated, to incite and track pushback especially re the timing of HR 609.
    -- opinion-management ahead of whatever fresh heresy is on the horizon out of the Vatican.
    -- sympathy-begging for the finances of the USCCB, its NGOs, and dioceses.
    -- ???

    Nothing's an accident or coincidence in the MSM anymore.

    Yeah there's been a few stories out on this. The AP just ran a story on this too. It sure seems like they're trying to drum up some hysteria around the issue.
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #13 on: May 02, 2024, 09:11:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: AgentOfDust on May 02, 2024, 06:39:53 PM
    Yeah there's been a few stories out on this. The AP just ran a story on this too. It sure seems like they're trying to drum up some hysteria around the issue.

    Yeah, that would be the meta narrative...
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    Re: Yahoo Article On Catholics Returning To Tradition
    « Reply #14 on: May 02, 2024, 09:44:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on May 02, 2024, 10:34:16 AM
    …I read somewhere that 100 percent of African priests are not faithful to their promises of celibacy, and I have zero respect for that.
    Is that pattern recognition?
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