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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Xavier Nishant on X
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2024, 10:38:42 PM »
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    • If you're going to evangelize, then go to the protestant/orthodox/atheist sites and get to work spreading Catholicism.  You don't need to waste your time here, preaching to choir.  We already know everything you post; cathinfo is not a place to evangelize.  You don't need to post here about disputed doctrinal matters (i.e. V2, new mass) which have been debated for the last 60 years.  You're not going to add anything new on those topics (and you're certainly not an expert, by any means, either).

    If you post things which we already know, you're being an annoyance.  You're spamming this site and it's unnecessary.  If evangelization is your goal, then spend your time where it's needed (i.e. not here).
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    Offline NishantXavier

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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #31 on: November 12, 2024, 10:49:03 PM »
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    • You're not the forum owner. I do post on X and other places. I also post here. I have as much right as you to post what I believe. You can post what you believe. I will post what I believe. Indult traditionalism is at least as much a legitimate view of the crisis as the Spism/svism you apparently believe. 
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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #32 on: November 13, 2024, 07:17:22 AM »
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    • Mark/Xavier, I thought you wanted to teach a billion non-Catholics?  How are you going to do this if you’re posting so much on this site?  I thought you wanted to evangelize?
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    Offline 2Vermont

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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #33 on: November 13, 2024, 07:46:02 AM »
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    • Although I'm not sure what the purpose was for starting this thread, trying to convince CI members that Vatican II (and all its related errors) is Catholic (and that SVism is heresy) is not Catholic missionary work. I knew it was just a matter of time before this became an issue for "MarkM". He should probably stick to other topics.
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    Offline NishantXavier

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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #34 on: November 13, 2024, 07:52:40 AM »
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    • Pax: Xavier reached 1 MN+ views on X as mentioned earlier. 10 MN within 10 years is a realistic possibility.

    We have a DM group on X where multiple Catholics work on the same goal. With 100 people reaching 10 MN each, we can reach 1 BN souls! So yes, we're definitely going to keep doing that. Come join us if you want to.

    If not, it's fine. As for me, I use multiple platforms, not just one. Below are the analytics.

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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #35 on: November 13, 2024, 07:55:45 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on November 13, 2024, 07:46:02 AM
    Although I'm not sure what the purpose was at the start of this thread, trying to convince CI members that Vatican II (and all its related errors) is Catholic (and that SVism is heresy) is not Catholic missionary work. I knew it was just a matter of time before this became an issue for "MarkM". He should probably stick to other topics.

    He is actually a Novus Ordo missionary. He has a lot of work to do to convince people here that the Novus Ordo religion is the truth.
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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #36 on: November 13, 2024, 07:56:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on November 13, 2024, 07:55:45 AM
    He is actually a Novus Ordo missionary. He has a lot of work to do to convince people here that the Novus Ordo religion is the truth.
    Well yes, that is what I meant by trying to convince others that Vatican II is Catholic.
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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #37 on: November 13, 2024, 08:01:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on November 13, 2024, 07:56:40 AM
    Well yes, that is what I meant by trying to convince others that Vatican II is Catholic.
    The man must have some deeper issue. I mean, he has been banned twice at least, if I recall correctly, and keeps coming back.

    If people somewhere tell me I am not welcome, I don't come back. You have to have some self-respect.
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    Offline NishantXavier

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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #38 on: November 13, 2024, 08:01:46 AM »
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    • I'm an Indult traditionalist. I hold to Fr. Ripperger's teaching that the TLM is objectively superior to the NOM.

    It can be shown also that, in the early years especially, Archbishop +Lefebvre also made statements aligning with this view. 

    Fr. Ripperger wrote an article about it called the Merit of a Mass. Can be found online. May post it here later.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #39 on: November 13, 2024, 08:56:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: MarkM on November 13, 2024, 08:01:46 AM
    I'm an Indult traditionalist. 

    OK, I'll accept that you're a traditionlist with a lower-case t, where you prefer and think the "older" stuff is "superior".

    But Traditionalists with a capital T are those who feel that Vatican II represents a rupture with Tradition (vs. trying to apply some hermeneutic of continuity) ... where there's a radical incompatibility between the Conciliar Church and the (Traditional) Catholic Church that cannot be reduced to accidentals.

    You are clearly not a Traditional Catholic in the latter sense.  Lots of people PREFER the old, and the term to describe them has been around for decades, "smells and bells" traditionlists.  You're one of those.

    But in terms of doctrine, your Pope Bergoglio told you to stop prosletyzing, so not sure why you're here attacking our beliefs ... since they too lead to God and to salvation.  Nor, for that matter, do I understand why you're trying to convert those billion people ... since, again, Bergoglio condemns your efforts.  He has openly scolded people for prosletysm.
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #40 on: November 13, 2024, 09:15:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on November 13, 2024, 08:01:33 AM
    The man must have some deeper issue. I mean, he has been banned twice at least, if I recall correctly, and keeps coming back.

    If people somewhere tell me I am not welcome, I don't come back. You have to have some self-respect.

    With posts like below, it is rubbing Matthew's nose in the deceit:


    Quote from: MarkM on November 13, 2024, 08:10:50 AM

    Just a passing word for now: the below is the schedule Xavier shared on X for the next 2 years. 1st book completed:



    I counsel you, Quo, to do some reading and look up CCC 161 (necessity of Christ for Salvation) and CCC 846-848. It reiterates the same definition of EENS as found in the Holy Office Letter and Baltimore Catechism: "Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church is necessary for salvation ... Whoever therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, refuses to enter or remain within Her, cannot be saved". As even Ladislaus has admitted, this is the same formulation as in Suprema Haec which V2 cites.

    The mental patient's deceit is so blatantly "in your face" one can only wonder at Matthew's hesitancy. Until now I have never seen Matthew tolerate a challenge to his ownership authority here. Why does he now tolerate this challenge of a new serial fake identity in someone he has repeatedly banned?



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    Offline Godefroy

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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #41 on: November 13, 2024, 09:37:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on November 13, 2024, 09:15:35 AM
    With posts like below, it is rubbing Matthew's nose in the deceit:


    The mental patient's deceit is so blatantly "in your face" one can only wonder at Matthew's hesitancy. Until now I have never seen Matthew tolerate a challenge to his ownership authority here. Why does he now tolerate this challenge of a new serial fake identity in someone he has repeatedly banned?




    He doesn't seem in a hurry to convert the jews. Are they saved by their superior DNA?
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    Offline NishantXavier

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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #42 on: November 13, 2024, 10:06:17 AM »
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    OK, I'll accept that you're a traditionlist with a lower-case t, where you prefer and think the "older" stuff is "superior".
    Ok then, fine. I'm a traditionalist "with a lower t" according to you. The main issue is not capital T or small t, but which position best harmonizes with the evidence from Scripture, Tradition, the Magisterium, and theological reason.

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    Until now I have never seen Matthew
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    tolerate a challenge to his ownership authority here.
    I have not challenged Matthew's authority in any way. Why are you trying to do that? Matthew's position on the President Trump issue aligned more with e.g. my views, Cera's views, Josh's views etc, yet you never saw any of us lobbying to try to get posters of a different opinion banned. You should do the same and respect the slightly differing viewpoints of your fellow Catholics.

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    He doesn't seem in a hurry to convert the Jєωs.
    The 4 largest global demographics are (1) Christians (about 33%, 2.5 BN) (2) Muslims (25%, 2 BN) (3) Hindus (12.5%, 1 BN), and (4) Atheists/Agnostics (about 10%). Jєωs are around 10th with 0.25% or 25 MN, about 1/100th that of Christians. So the focus is more on the others first. As for converting the Jєωs, the Apostles who did it with great success (thanks to whom Christianity and the Catholic Church is now far larger than Judaism whereas it was the opposite when they started) showed us how to do it - primarily using the Messianic prophecies in the Old Testament. My favorite is using Isa 53 as below: https://www.conservapedia.com/Prophesies_Fulfilled_by_Christ#Prophesies_of_the_Sacrificial_Death_of_the_Messiah There is an Isaiah 53 video on youtube that has been viewed some 5 million times and led to thousands of conversions. Some of course will try to deny Isa 53 refers to Our Lord Jesus Christ and claim it refers to "Israel" instead, but that error can be easily refuted.

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    "Because of the importance of this prophesy, and its usefulness in sharing the Gospel with Atheists, or with Jєωs, or with any non-Christians, further testimonies can be docuмented about it. There should be no doubt to any sincere inquirer to Christianity that these prophesies refer to Jesus Christ.[6][7]
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    (i) 1st Century Rabbi Shimon Ben Yochai:

    “The meaning of the words ‘bruised for our iniquities’ [Isaiah 53:5] is, that since the Messiah bears our iniquities, which produce the effect of his being bruised, it follows that whoso will not admit that the Messiah thus suffers for our iniquities, must endure and suffer them for them himself.“[8]

    (ii) Rabbi Moshe Aschich:

    “[our] Rabbis with one voice, accept and affirm the opinion that the Prophet [Isaiah in 53] is speaking of king Messiah." [9]

    (iii) Twelfth-century Jєωιѕн scholar Ramban:

    “Yet he carried our sicknesses, being himself sick and distressed for the transgressions which should have caused sickness and distress in us, and bearing the pains which we ought to have experienced. But we, when we saw him weakened and prostrate, thought that he was stricken, smitten of God. The chastisement of our peace was upon him – for God will correct him; and by his stripes we were healed.“

    (iv) Tractate Sanhedrin in the Babylonian тαℓмυd (98b)

    The тαℓмυd writes about the name of the Messiah: “His name is ‘the leper scholar,’ as it is written, “Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows yet we did esteem him a leper, smitten of God, and afflicted”.

    (v) The Book of the Zohar

    The Zohar recognizes the principle of substitution that the suffering of the Messiah would come to take the suffering that others deserved for their sins. On the verse “Surely He has borne our griefs”, the Book of the Zohar says, “There is in the Garden of Eden a palace named the Palace of the Sons of Sickness. This palace the Messiah enters, and He summons every pain and every chastisement of Israel: All of these come and rest upon Him. And were it not that he had thus lightened them off Israel and taken them upon himself, there had been no man able to bear Israel’s chastisements for the transgression of the law.”

    (vi) 17th century Jєωιѕн historian Raphael Levi

    Levi admitted that long ago the rabbis used to read Isaiah 53 in ѕуηαgσgυєs, but after the chapter caused “arguments and great confusion” the rabbis decided that the simplest thing would be to just take that prophecy out of the Haftarah readings in ѕуηαgσgυєs. That’s why today when we read Isaiah 52, we stop in the middle of the chapter and the week after we jump straight to Isaiah 54 ..."

    (vii) Prayers for Yom Kippur

    "The prayers for Yom Kippur, the ones we all know also relates Isaiah 53 to the Messiah. The prayer added for Yom Kippur by Rabbi Eliezer around the time of the seventh century: “Our righteous Messiah has turned away from us we have acted foolishly and there is no one to justify us. Our iniquities and the yoke of our transgressions he bears and he is pierced for our transgressions. He carries our sins on his shoulder, to find forgiveness for our iniquities. By his wounds we are healed.”


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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #43 on: November 13, 2024, 10:17:45 AM »
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    • I got to admit, although the LATEST incarnation of Xavier, "MarkM", has more or less "behaved himself" this time around, the fact remains that MarkM has basically LIED that he and Xavier aren't the same person.
    That does bother me.

    I tend to agree with Mark79 on this issue, that MarkM/Xavier is not fully sane of mind.

    You know, Xavier, years ago I was compelled to take.a solemn oath that I wasn't another member. There was a mania on CathInfo at the time, that my sister was 2 members and I was 2 other members. There might have been others as well. It was a crazy time period. Since the whole authority and foundation of the forum was at stake, I decided it was a serious enough reason to resort to swearing on a higher Authority.

    Are you willing to swear on the Precious Blood that the soul behind "MarkM" and the soul "Nishant Xavier", specifically the person by that name known on CathInfo and X, are different people? You have to include the phrase that if you are lying on this matter, you ask God to blot your name out from the Book of Life.

    Maybe Ladislaus and/or MarkM could come up with the specific wording for the oath -- so you can't mental reservation weasel-word your way out of it.
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    Re: Xavier Nishant on X
    « Reply #44 on: November 13, 2024, 10:19:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on November 13, 2024, 08:01:33 AM
    The man must have some deeper issue. I mean, he has been banned twice at least, if I recall correctly, and keeps coming back.

    If people somewhere tell me I am not welcome, I don't come back. You have to have some self-respect.
    He's not the only one.  Hewkonian has had at least a couple of comebacks.  His most recent I believe is PapalTiara.
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