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  • Dr. Chojnowski takes a jab at the Remnant http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2017/09/would-you-be-invited-to-mike-and-chriss.html


    We have gotten word from the Remnant, that,  "For the first time in history," "a number of bishops as well as representatives of every major traditionalist priestly fraternity in the world...will come together for a weekend conference to discuss united and principled defense of Holy Mother Church."
    The conference, scheduled for the last week of October, in the usual venue of the past Fraternity of Saint Peter conferences in past years, has as its keynote speaker --- the one, apparently, leading the discussion is Novus Ordo bishop Athanasius Schneider, some of whose actions and words

    From the callmejorgebergolio.blogspot.com
    Bishop Athanasius Schneider will save the Church with interreligious dialogue!

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     “Anything that can bring about a mutual knowledge and respect between religions is a good thing.”

     
     Schneider with his modernist co-religionists

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    "Let us be grateful to God that Pope Francis has not spoken in the manner that was expected by the media. Up to now, he expresses in all his official homilies the beautiful Catholic doctrine."
    Bp. Schneider, 30 May 2014

     Athanasius Schneider wrote in his 2013 article,
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     A quote from an interview he granted to a French newspaper, Présent, January 10, 2015,
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    "It is the Vatican II Council that gave a wider understanding of the Mystery of the Church according to the Teaching of the Fathers of the Church […]. Thus, the Church has been seen as “a people made one with the unity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit” (Lumen Gentium 4) "

     In a Latin Mass Magazine interview,
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    "Ecumenism is necessary in order to be in contact with our separated brethren and in order to love them. From the depth of the challenge offered to us by the new paganism, we may and we must collaborate with non-Catholics who seriously wish to defend the revealed Divine Truth and the Natural Law that God created."

     This is the keynote speaker. What "principles" will he put forward as the basis for combat for the faith? Which faith? After struggling and fighting for decades for Catholic Tradition, do we need a conference led by a right-wing Modernist to rally the troops? When will the Remnant think-tank get out of their cozy Latin Mass venue within the Modernist church structure ---- which of course can be "forbidden" at any time --- and get into the real trenches where those not worried about money or New Church acceptability have been fighting all along.

     In the next article, I want to discuss the basis for the "principled" "resistance" that the Catholic Identity Conference is offering. Is it Ecclesia Dei Adflicta?  If that is the case, then your principles are grounded in the excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre and a completely modernist understanding of Tradition. Aren't we dealing here with the same "Latin Mass" men who accepted the modernist transformation of the struggle for the Catholic Faith --- expressed by the traditional Roman Mass --- into an advocacy for respect for the "sensibilities" of  the tiny percentage of "Catholics" who feel attached to "former liturgical practices." If these groups and individuals had actually fought for the Faith without acceptance of heresy "within" the Church then we might not be facing the apostasy foretold by Our Lady at La Salette and in the Third Secret. Face it, we are living the Third Secret. Now what?

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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
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  • I thought Schneider was a shocking choice.


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  • "Cardinals, bishops, priests, Catholic families, Catholic young people have to say to themselves: I refuse to conform to the neo-pagan spirit of this world, even when this spirit is spread by some bishops and cardinals; I will not accept their fallacious and perverse use of holy Divine mercy and of “new Pentecost;” I refuse to throw grains of incense before the statue of the idol of the gender ideology, before the idol of second marriages, of concubinage, even if my bishop would do so, I will not do so; with the grace of God I will choose to suffer rather than betray the whole truth of Christ on human sexuality and on marriage."  --  Bishop Athanasius Schneider.

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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
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  • It seems there is a trend of Catholics not being invited...
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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
    « Reply #6 on: September 15, 2017, 03:24:11 AM »
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  • Dr. Chojnowski takes a jab at the Remnant http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2017/09/would-you-be-invited-to-mike-and-chriss.html


    We have gotten word from the Remnant, that,  "For the first time in history," "a number of bishops as well as representatives of every major traditionalist priestly fraternity in the world...will come together for a weekend conference to discuss united and principled defense of Holy Mother Church."
    The conference, scheduled for the last week of October, in the usual venue of the past Fraternity of Saint Peter conferences in past years, has as its keynote speaker --- the one, apparently, leading the discussion is Novus Ordo bishop Athanasius Schneider, some of whose actions and words

    From the callmejorgebergolio.blogspot.com
    Bishop Athanasius Schneider will save the Church with interreligious dialogue!

     
    Schneider with his modernist co-religionists

     Athanasius Schneider wrote in his 2013 article,
     A quote from an interview he granted to a French newspaper, Présent, January 10, 2015,
     In a Latin Mass Magazine interview,
     This is the keynote speaker. What "principles" will he put forward as the basis for combat for the faith? Which faith? After struggling and fighting for decades for Catholic Tradition, do we need a conference led by a right-wing Modernist to rally the troops? When will the Remnant think-tank get out of their cozy Latin Mass venue within the Modernist church structure ---- which of course can be "forbidden" at any time --- and get into the real trenches where those not worried about money or New Church acceptability have been fighting all along.

     In the next article, I want to discuss the basis for the "principled" "resistance" that the Catholic Identity Conference is offering. Is it Ecclesia Dei Adflicta?  If that is the case, then your principles are grounded in the excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre and a completely modernist understanding of Tradition. Aren't we dealing here with the same "Latin Mass" men who accepted the modernist transformation of the struggle for the Catholic Faith --- expressed by the traditional Roman Mass --- into an advocacy for respect for the "sensibilities" of  the tiny percentage of "Catholics" who feel attached to "former liturgical practices." If these groups and individuals had actually fought for the Faith without acceptance of heresy "within" the Church then we might not be facing the apostasy foretold by Our Lady at La Salette and in the Third Secret. Face it, we are living the Third Secret. Now what?
    I was uninvited from their website by "Moanin' Mike", does that count?
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
    « Reply #7 on: September 15, 2017, 06:26:53 PM »
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  • Dr. Chojnowski takes a jab at the Remnant http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2017/09/would-you-be-invited-to-mike-and-chriss.html


    We have gotten word from the Remnant, that,  "For the first time in history," "a number of bishops as well as representatives of every major traditionalist priestly fraternity in the world...will come together for a weekend conference to discuss united and principled defense of Holy Mother Church."
    The conference, scheduled for the last week of October, in the usual venue of the past Fraternity of Saint Peter conferences in past years, has as its keynote speaker --- the one, apparently, leading the discussion is Novus Ordo bishop Athanasius Schneider, some of whose actions and words

    From the callmejorgebergolio.blogspot.com
    Bishop Athanasius Schneider will save the Church with interreligious dialogue!

     
    Schneider with his modernist co-religionists

     Athanasius Schneider wrote in his 2013 article,
     A quote from an interview he granted to a French newspaper, Présent, January 10, 2015,
     In a Latin Mass Magazine interview,
     This is the keynote speaker. What "principles" will he put forward as the basis for combat for the faith? Which faith? After struggling and fighting for decades for Catholic Tradition, do we need a conference led by a right-wing Modernist to rally the troops? When will the Remnant think-tank get out of their cozy Latin Mass venue within the Modernist church structure ---- which of course can be "forbidden" at any time --- and get into the real trenches where those not worried about money or New Church acceptability have been fighting all along.

     In the next article, I want to discuss the basis for the "principled" "resistance" that the Catholic Identity Conference is offering. Is it Ecclesia Dei Adflicta?  If that is the case, then your principles are grounded in the excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre and a completely modernist understanding of Tradition. Aren't we dealing here with the same "Latin Mass" men who accepted the modernist transformation of the struggle for the Catholic Faith --- expressed by the traditional Roman Mass --- into an advocacy for respect for the "sensibilities" of  the tiny percentage of "Catholics" who feel attached to "former liturgical practices." If these groups and individuals had actually fought for the Faith without acceptance of heresy "within" the Church then we might not be facing the apostasy foretold by Our Lady at La Salette and in the Third Secret. Face it, we are living the Third Secret. Now what?
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    From the above link,
    Schneider with his modernist co-religionists:
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    Maurice Pinay said...

    Let us also remember that Bp. Williamson invited a Hasidic rabbi to teach SSPX seminarians at Ridgefield, CT while Abp. Lefebvre was still living.

    December 11, 2014 at 1:00 AM
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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
    « Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 07:44:56 PM »
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    Let us also remember that Bp. Williamson invited a Hasidic rabbi to teach SSPX seminarians at Ridgefield, CT while Abp. Lefebvre was still living.
    December 11, 2014 at 1:00 AM


    Relevance? Comparing apples to oranges here... I don't remember the subject matter that this particular rabbi lectured on, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't anything related to the likes of this ruse that Mr Matt is putting on. Just my two- cents.

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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
    « Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 09:18:42 PM »
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  • Dr. Chojnowski takes a jab at the Remnant http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2017/09/would-you-be-invited-to-mike-and-chriss.html


    We have gotten word from the Remnant, that,  "For the first time in history," "a number of bishops as well as representatives of every major traditionalist priestly fraternity in the world...will come together for a weekend conference to discuss united and principled defense of Holy Mother Church."
    The conference, scheduled for the last week of October, in the usual venue of the past Fraternity of Saint Peter conferences in past years, has as its keynote speaker --- the one, apparently, leading the discussion is Novus Ordo bishop Athanasius Schneider, some of whose actions and words


    From the callmejorgebergolio.blogspot.com
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    There is no blog there, at callmejorgebergolio.blogspot.com ........... 
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    You left out a "g" -- http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/ 
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    When you don't provide the link computers can be extremely literal in reading addresses, kind of like the USPS.
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    Going to the source blog site a very alarming topic appears having been posted on Sept. 11th this year:
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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
    « Reply #10 on: September 15, 2017, 09:27:07 PM »
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    Monday, September 11, 2017
    The SSPX’s “Child Protection Policy” endorsed masturbation, sodomy, obscenity, pornography, etc...


    🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 WARNING 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

    CONTAINS

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    The FSSPX school in Burghclere, England.



    Thanks to George Lydda who made this important matter to known to the general public with a facebook post (see below) and to the anonymous reader of Call Me Jorge... who brought it to our attention.

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    The following screenshots are taken from the document, “St. Michael’s School Child Protection Policy, Procedure and Guidance” from Appendix IX (pp. 30-2) posted on Great Britain’s SSPX website which appears to have now been removed.  (click here to download the document)  Here's the link to the cached document from the Great Britain SSPX website.  This document is almost identical to documents appearing on other schools’ websites in Great Britain such as: St. John the Baptist CE Primary School; Barton Primary School; Redlands Primary School; Swanmore College; Grayshott C of E Primary School; etc... who have all also adopted the Brook Sexual Behaviors Traffic Light Tool.  The appendix reads at the top of each page, “All green, amber and red behaviours require some form of attention and response. It is the level of intervention that will vary.”[/size]
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    Are Mike and Chris going to have reps from the British SSPX to explain this problem they're having?
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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
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    Continues..........
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    For Ages 0 to 5

    For Ages 5 to 9

    For Ages 9 to 13

    For Ages 13 to 17 

    Absolutely disgusting!

    So who’s responsible for St. Michael’s School and the policy document that’s been posted, removed, reposted and removed once again?  That would be Fr. John Brucciani, St. Michael’s headmaster, and Fr. Robert Brucciani, the District Superior of Great Britain.






    According to the SSPX website, Fr. Robert Brucciani’s responsibilities as District Superior include, “the wise pastoral care of the priests, brothers and sisters of his District, together with their priories, schools and chapels, according to the statutes and spirit of the Society.”  Why not give the District Superior a call and the headmaster at St. Michael’s and let both of them know how you feel about this on again—off again policy at St. Michael’s?  Ask why Fr. Patrick Summers removed the offending material only then to be removed from his job as headmaster and why did the administration under the new headmaster, Fr. John Brucciani, put the morally offending document back up?  Point out to them that if they need to have a document such as this to fulfill British law for having a school, perhaps they shouldn’t have a school.  Ask them why they ever thought it a good idea to adopt the policy of the pro-abortionpro-homosexualsexually confusedpro-contraception,  Brook in the first place!  
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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
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  • Relevance? Comparing apples to oranges here... I don't remember the subject matter that this particular rabbi lectured on, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't anything related to the likes of this ruse that Mr Matt is putting on. Just my two- cents.
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    I was just following a link -- when I saw that quote from Pinay (username of one or more clerics and/or laymen of uncertain identity in Europe) it seemed a bit off topic and yet perhaps related, something that most readers here would likely miss, so I thought it may be useful to put a spotlight on it for a minute. These topics are not always so squeaky clean as we may prefer them to be.
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    The "Brook Sexual Behaviors Traffic Light Tool," above, seems to be much more pertinent.
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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
    « Reply #13 on: September 15, 2017, 09:52:28 PM »
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  • The "Brook Sexual Behaviors Traffic Light Tool," above, seems to be much more pertinent.
    Yes, and what a hellish mess it is... 
    Lord have mercy! 

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    Re: Would You be Invited to Mike and Chris's "Big Tent Traditionalism"?
    « Reply #14 on: September 16, 2017, 07:45:14 PM »
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    The last part is really frightening:
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    Excerpt from Brook’s Position Statement on Relationships and Sex Education:
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