Author Topic: Worldly Catholics in the SSPX? (Read 7385 times)

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:09:40 AM »

This is the way a true Roman Catholics should appear:

Matthew · « **Reply #16 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:28:00 AM »

Nice pic, Roman Catholic, but what is your point?

Looks like my SSPX chapel, or any of a dozen other SSPX chapels I've been to.

Matthew · « **Reply #17 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:31:49 AM »

Quote from: SJB

I'm not anti-SSPX. The world is not a battle between the SSPX and everybody else.

Didn't you read my main point, which applies to ALL groups, not just the SSPX?

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So we need to put to rest, once and for all, the notion that a perusal of the pews on Sunday can produce for us a ball of criticism that can be lobbed at the organization running the chapel. It's absolutely ridiculous and has no basis in logic, reason, or Catholicism.

I just picked the SSPX for the title of this thread because A) I'm familiar with them, and B) it's my "own" group, so people will be less offended than if I started a thread, "The CMRI is populated with Republicans and neocons!"

LordPhan · « **Reply #18 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:33:21 AM »

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Quote from: Matthew
I've heard SSPX-attending Catholics criticized because some chapels have some worldly members. I'd just like to say one thing:

What in the world are the SSPX priests supposed to do when someone arrives at one of their chapels? Give them a questionnaire? Wouldn't a priest be gravely sinning to shun or refuse sacraments to spiritual beginners or those weak in their faith?

I mean, stop and think it through!

Of course worldly Catholics are shamefully dividing their allegiance between God and the world, objectively speaking, but "while there is breath there is hope", and Our Lord spoke about not crushing the bruised reed.

Our Lord said he came to save sinners. And the Catholic Church is an extension of Jesus Christ Himself. We don't call it "The Mystical Body of Christ" because it's a catchy title. It IS literally a mystical extension of His body. His saving action continues through the Church today. And Jesus didn't summarily reject sinners who were interested in repentance... Guess what? everyone attending Mass obviously has SOME level of good will to become better!

The majority of Catholics have always been worldly. That's been true since the Catholic Church was founded. That's why the Saints stand out. If heroism were commonplace, it wouldn't be heroism!

So we need to put to rest, once and for all, the notion that a perusal of the pews on Sunday can produce for us a ball of criticism that can be lobbed at the organization running the chapel. It's absolutely ridiculous and has no basis in logic, reason, or Catholicism.

Unless the organization PROMOTES worldliness -- which I doubt is the case for any traditional group around today. Trust me, the SSPX is anything but worldly in its advice! It recommends all members to TOSS the TV completely, for example. Not just "restrict viewing" or "just watch Catholic movies" -- no, members are repeatedly advised to NOT OWN a television set. SSPX Third Order (lay) members must be TV-less as one of the requirements for joining.

Pope Pius XII did not recommend such a thing. What about radio?

A lot of extreme liberals advise "Kill your TV" ... certainly doesn't make them more Catholic.

Stupid statement since during Pius XII's time the Church had a censor in hollywood. The Church Militant was in full force boycotting Movie Theatres that showed even one immoral film and boycotting tv stations if they showed a tv show that didn't pass the Catholic censor.

This was ended during V2(not after, during) when they betrayed the Church Militant.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:55:49 AM »

Reply to Matthew

My point is to show what it was like in the pre vatican 2 church. This
devotion was seen in every Catholic Church everywhere. That is
the Church I remember.