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Offline HolyAngels

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Re: Working together in the Traditional Catholic movement
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2022, 09:52:48 AM »
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  • Nah, as long as the -ism doesn't imply a different religion.  There have always been "-isms" to describe various schools of thought within the Church, e.g. Thomism vs. Molinism.  Is Thomism not Catholic?
    Ok, fair enough. That's a good point 
    For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places
    Ephesians 6:12


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    Re: Working together in the Traditional Catholic movement
    « Reply #31 on: September 30, 2022, 10:20:36 AM »
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  • Your link starts right out of the gate with a lie....
    My friend, that is the thesis that is supposed to be proven in the article...
    How could you misunderstand something so simple?



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    Re: Working together in the Traditional Catholic movement
    « Reply #32 on: September 30, 2022, 10:23:01 AM »
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  • I don't know if it is or isn't schismatic, if you read my post, I said: "the Church has always considered the idea to be schismatic, what this means is by it's very nature sedeism is divisive."
    I understand now. The difference between you and me is that when I realize the Church considers something to be heretical or schismatic I consider it as well, while you don't.

    I somehow assume people obey the supposed teaching of the Church but I guess you can't assume that with Old Catholic Lefebvrites.

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    Re: Working together in the Traditional Catholic movement
    « Reply #33 on: September 30, 2022, 11:38:56 AM »
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  • My friend, that is the thesis that is supposed to be proven in the article...
    How could you misunderstand something so simple?
    Because I lived it, I understand it quite clearly.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Working together in the Traditional Catholic movement
    « Reply #34 on: September 30, 2022, 11:40:00 AM »
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  • I understand now. The difference between you and me is that when I realize the Church considers something to be heretical or schismatic I consider it as well, while you don't.
    Right, that's why you're a sede. :facepalm:
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: Working together in the Traditional Catholic movement
    « Reply #35 on: September 30, 2022, 11:52:47 AM »
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  • The Catholic clergy must first "work together". 
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Working together in the Traditional Catholic movement
    « Reply #36 on: October 01, 2022, 03:31:40 PM »
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  • This is a really good point.  If we don’t put aside our differences and our bickering, we’re going to split into one sect for every believer just like the Protestants.  I hear this is a big reason young Catholics of both sexes have trouble finding spouses; they’re too picky about the things that divide us but have little to do with our daily lives (position on the Pope, on who is and isn’t saved, etc.).

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    Re: Working together in the Traditional Catholic movement
    « Reply #37 on: October 01, 2022, 03:35:40 PM »
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  • The rejection of Vatican II and anything to do with the Novus Ordo must be a baseline.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.