Author Topic: Women priest??? Coming to a town near you? (Read 6201 times)

MyrnaM · « **on:** July 04, 2011, 01:15:49 PM »

Will this be enough to wake anyone up!

http://tinyurl.com/3d89txj

TKGS · « **Reply #1 on:** July 04, 2011, 02:24:50 PM »

Sadly, the answer to your question is, "No."

There are numerous people on this very forum who would tell us that, while its not a good idea, we haven't the authority to question the conciliar church on the matter. There will even be people who call themselves traditional Catholics who will, because it's the only one available, assist at a traditional "Mass" in the designated diocesan parish by a priestess (and there will be priestesses saying the traditional Mass). They will declare that the service was just as wonderful as it would have been if it had been a priest saying Mass...if not better.

There is absolutely no reason to believe that most people who have already blinded themselves to the reality of the Crisis in the Church will not be blinded by yet another travesty.

I used to think there were various things that would bring people to their senses, only to see lines drawn and crossed and have the very same people tell me that I'm the one who is being unreasonable and schismatic and refusing to accept Benedict as the true pope.

No, I'm afraid it won't matter. What's more, while I highly doubt that the SSPX will start accepting women into their ranks, I really don't know what they will say about the acceptance of priestesses in the conciliar church. One thing is for certain: When the conciliar church begins ordaining women, there will be women bishops very soon after and the Vatican will simply not be able to resist appointing women as cardinals (the first will probably be in charge of the Congregation for the Clergy) and I am absolutely confident that the first conclave that includes women cardinals will elect one of them as pope; probably on the first ballot. They will simply not be able to resist that act to "prove" they are not sexist just as so many Americans elected self-evident a communist to the presidency so as to "prove" they were not racists.

And, in case you're asking, the very same people who defend the women priests will demand that we accept a woman pope, or would that be a "popess"?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #2 on:** July 04, 2011, 02:33:20 PM »

Quote from: TKGS

Sadly, the answer to your question is, "No."

There are numerous people on this very forum who would tell us that, while its not a good idea, we haven't the authority to question the conciliar church on the matter. There will even be people who call themselves traditional Catholics who will, because it's the only one available, assist at a traditional "Mass" in the designated diocesan parish by a priestess (and there will be priestesses saying the traditional Mass). They will declare that the service was just as wonderful as it would have been if it had been a priest saying Mass...if not better.

There is absolutely no reason to believe that most people who have already blinded themselves to the reality of the Crisis in the Church will not be blinded by yet another travesty.

I used to think there were various things that would bring people to their senses, only to see lines drawn and crossed and have the very same people tell me that I'm the one who is being unreasonable and schismatic and refusing to accept Benedict as the true pope.

No, I'm afraid it won't matter. What's more, while I highly doubt that the SSPX will start accepting women into their ranks, I really don't know what they will say about the acceptance of priestesses in the conciliar church. One thing is for certain: When the conciliar church begins ordaining women, there will be women bishops very soon after and the Vatican will simply not be able to resist appointing women as cardinals (the first will probably be in charge of the Congregation for the Clergy) and I am absolutely confident that the first conclave that includes women cardinals will elect one of them as pope; probably on the first ballot. They will simply not be able to resist that act to "prove" they are not sexist just as so many Americans elected self-evident a communist to the presidency so as to "prove" they were not racists.

And, in case you're asking, the very same people who defend the women priests will demand that we accept a woman pope, or would that be a "popess"?

I believe that Benedict XVI once said something about his "conservatism" strictly being a "provisional" position, but I can't find the source for it. Does anyone remember reading something like that?

Caminus · « **Reply #3 on:** July 04, 2011, 02:40:51 PM »

Quote from: TKGS

Sadly, the answer to your question is, "No."

There are numerous people on this very forum who would tell us that, while its not a good idea, we haven't the authority to question the conciliar church on the matter. There will even be people who call themselves traditional Catholics who will, because it's the only one available, assist at a traditional "Mass" in the designated diocesan parish by a priestess (and there will be priestesses saying the traditional Mass). They will declare that the service was just as wonderful as it would have been if it had been a priest saying Mass...if not better.

There is absolutely no reason to believe that most people who have already blinded themselves to the reality of the Crisis in the Church will not be blinded by yet another travesty.

I used to think there were various things that would bring people to their senses, only to see lines drawn and crossed and have the very same people tell me that I'm the one who is being unreasonable and schismatic and refusing to accept Benedict as the true pope.

No, I'm afraid it won't matter. What's more, while I highly doubt that the SSPX will start accepting women into their ranks, I really don't know what they will say about the acceptance of priestesses in the conciliar church. One thing is for certain: When the conciliar church begins ordaining women, there will be women bishops very soon after and the Vatican will simply not be able to resist appointing women as cardinals (the first will probably be in charge of the Congregation for the Clergy) and I am absolutely confident that the first conclave that includes women cardinals will elect one of them as pope; probably on the first ballot. They will simply not be able to resist that act to "prove" they are not sexist just as so many Americans elected self-evident a communist to the presidency so as to "prove" they were not racists.

And, in case you're asking, the very same people who defend the women priests will demand that we accept a woman pope, or would that be a "popess"?

This is interesting. You are using alleged future events surely coming to pass to help justify your current opinion on the Pope? TKGS, this opinion may be satisfactory for you right now, but you haven't answered the serious difficulties it implies and I see from the above that you have shifted into a frame of mind that seeks anything that may even remotely support it in your mind -- extending even to remote hypothetical events. The above heretical opinion of a Cardinal (one among many probably) is contradictory to even what JPII stated. Rome will not be allowing women priests in the future so you can stop worrying about it and especially about what the SSPX will say on this imaginary event.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2011, 04:41:35 PM »

Women priests won't be allowed any time soon, if ever. A woman "pope" would definitely be an anti-pope (or would that be an anti-popess?).