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Offline Charlemagne

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Novus Ordo laity compose their own songs now
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2014, 11:39:50 AM »
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  • Why shouldn't they compose their own songs? Their "liturgical committees" fabricate their NOMs.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    Novus Ordo laity compose their own songs now
    « Reply #16 on: November 27, 2014, 10:39:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
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    There was a time when Pange Lingua was new. I like to tell the young people that St Thomas Aquinus could out rap the "best" of the rappers of today


    There are times when I wonder if poche is actually Catholic.  Too much sucking up to the V2 modernists have contaminated his own mind.


    How does praising St Thomas Aquinus in a way that the younger generation can understand constitute modernism? The idea is to have the younger generation who are fed on rap and regaeton take a look at what is really important, the holiness and the greatness of the saints. To take a look at the wisdom that comes from the pen of St Thomas Aquinus.  


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    Novus Ordo laity compose their own songs now
    « Reply #17 on: November 28, 2014, 10:01:58 AM »
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    … "O Holy Night!" was composed on a guitar.


    This is by no means the first time I have heard or read this claim, but unfortunately it has no basis in fact. The text of this song is an English translation dating from the 1850s of a French original from a dozen or so years earlier. The composer of the song, titled simply "Cantique de Noël," was Adolphe Adam (better known to music and ballet lovers as the composer of Giselle). The words, written by a now largely forgotten poet (forgotten even by the French) called Placide Cappeau, are as follows.

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    Minuit, Chrétiens, c'est l'heure solennelle,
    Où l'Homme Dieu descendit jusqu'à nous
    Pour effacer la tache originelle
    Et de Son Père arrêter le courroux.
    Le monde entier tressaille d'espérance
    En cette nuit qui lui donne un Sauveur.
         Peuple à genoux, attends ta délivrance.
         Noël, Noël, voici le Rédempteur,
         Noël, Noël, voici le Rédempteur!

    De notre foi que la lumière ardente
    Nous guide tous au berceau de l'Enfant,
    Comme autrefois une étoile brillante
    Y conduisit les chefs de l'Orient.
    Le Roi des rois naît dans une humble crèche:
    Puissants du jour, fiers de votre grandeur,
          A votre orgueil, c'est de là que Dieu prêche.
          Courbez vos fronts devant le Rédempteur.
          Courbez vos fronts devant le Rédempteur.

    Le Rédempteur a brisé toute entrave:
    La terre est libre, et le ciel est ouvert.
    Il voit un frère où n'était qu'un esclave,
    L'amour unit ceux qu'enchaînait le fer.
    Qui lui dira notre reconnaissance,
    C'est pour nous tous qu'il naît, qu'il souffre et meurt.
          Peuple debout! Chante ta délivrance,
          Noël, Noël, chantons le Rédempteur,
          Noël, Noël, chantons le Rédempteur!


    In neither French nor English has this ever been a congregational hymn, since the song was composed for a professionally trained voice—indeed, a voice with a very secure upper extension. Yet since the congregational singing at NO services is typically and predictably atrocious, adding this song to the repertory might easily drive music lovers, screaming, away from Bugninidom and into the arms of Tradition.

    The Lord does work in strange ways, after all.

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    There are times when I wonder if poche is actually Catholic. Too much sucking up to the V2 modernists has contaminated his own mind.


    Mind? What mind? I thought everyone knew that Poche is an automated commenting bot developed by a technonerd at the Democratic National Committee.

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    Novus Ordo laity compose their own songs now
    « Reply #18 on: November 28, 2014, 11:35:26 AM »
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    There was a time when Pange Lingua was new. I like to tell the young people that St Thomas Aquinus could out rap the "best" of the rappers of today


    There are times when I wonder if poche is actually Catholic.  Too much sucking up to the V2 modernists have contaminated his own mind.


    How does praising St Thomas Aquinus in a way that the younger generation can understand constitute modernism? The idea is to have the younger generation who are fed on rap and regaeton take a look at what is really important, the holiness and the greatness of the saints. To take a look at the wisdom that comes from the pen of St Thomas Aquinus.  


    You can talk about the Angelic Doctor without mindlessly equating him to modern music.
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...