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Title: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Incredulous on August 29, 2018, 11:57:42 AM
               Vote on how this ѕуηαgσgυє manufactured "Papal Crisis" will turn-out ?

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Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Ladislaus on August 29, 2018, 12:30:01 PM
This thread is great just for its use of the term shoa-biz.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: forlorn on August 29, 2018, 01:12:01 PM
The media are actually defending him at the moment. I've read more than a few headlines recently about how this recent scandal about Francis was orchestrated by right-wing conservative Cardinals plotting to oust him. 
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Maria Regina on August 29, 2018, 01:18:25 PM
Please tell us more about this option:


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No, the "worm ridden pope" will die in the seat, as foretold by Our Lady of LaSalette

I have not heard about this prophecy.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Maria Regina on August 29, 2018, 01:20:16 PM

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Look how Francis is hiding his papal cross when talking with Jєωs. Is he ashamed of Christ?
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: forlorn on August 29, 2018, 02:01:08 PM
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I have not heard about this prophecy.
The supposed apparition-witnesses of La Salette made a number of predictions that they claimed Our Lady told them that never came true. They were very specific with years and those years have long since come and gone.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: TKGS on August 29, 2018, 02:27:14 PM
I'm always amazed at how few members bother to vote in these polls.  Over 3,000 members on the forum and only a couple of handfuls of them ever vote even though no one is obliged to explain their vote or even identify that they've even voted.

I'd like to see a poll that garners at least a third of the forum membership.  I think that would truly be a representative sample.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Nick on August 29, 2018, 02:35:04 PM
This thread is great just for its use of the term shoa-biz.
I voted for option Chutzpah.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Maria Regina on August 29, 2018, 02:36:39 PM
The supposed apparition-witnesses of La Salette made a number of predictions that they claimed Our Lady told them that never came true. They were very specific with years and those years have long since come and gone.
From the pope's response to reporters concerning Vigano's recent statements, it is apparent that Francis does not plan to retire any time soon. However, the pope has been having difficulty walking and now stumbles over his own two feet, requiring aid at times, so perhaps he will reluctantly retire for medical reasons.

Interestingly, some of the pope's leftist friends have been encouraging him to retire, but Francis remains obstinate. Perhaps these modernists want his seat. If that were the case, then Francis' successor might have already have been chosen and groomed by the cardinals.

Didn't Francis say about two years ago that he would either die shortly or retire from office?
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Cera on August 29, 2018, 02:56:47 PM
I vote for option
"Let us pray."
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Struthio on August 29, 2018, 04:26:45 PM
And in case Bergoglio resigns: Will they find someone who wants to be his successor?
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Maria Regina on August 29, 2018, 04:35:59 PM
And in case Bergoglio resigns: Will they find someone who wants to be his successor?
The question should be: If a successor is picked, will he be any different from Francis since all the electable Cardinals are modernists?
Only a powerful miracle from God that struck many cardinals dead followed by overwhelming grace would prevent this.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Nadir on August 29, 2018, 04:36:21 PM
I'm always amazed at how few members bother to vote in these polls.  Over 3,000 members on the forum and only a couple of handfuls of them ever vote even though no one is obliged to explain their vote or even identify that they've even voted.

I'd like to see a poll that garners at least a third of the forum membership.  I think that would truly be a representative sample.
This poll was posted Today at 11:57:42 AM . so I am amazed that already 22 people have voted.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Maria Regina on August 29, 2018, 04:48:05 PM

Indeed, 22 people comprise most of the active members of this forum here in the States. By tomorrow morning, CI should have heard from the rest of those in Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, the Middle East, and in Europe.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: 2Vermont on August 29, 2018, 05:43:25 PM
From the pope's response to reporters concerning Vigano's recent statements, it is apparent that Francis does not plan to retire any time soon. However, the pope has been having difficulty walking and now stumbles over his own two feet, requiring aid at times, so perhaps he will reluctantly retire for medical reasons.

Interestingly, some of the pope's leftist friends have been encouraging him to retire, but Francis remains obstinate. Perhaps these modernists want his seat. If that were the case, then Francis' successor might have already have been chosen and groomed by the cardinals.

Didn't Francis say about two years ago that he would either die shortly or retire from office?
If he retires, perhaps he will *say* it is "for medical reasons".
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: josefamenendez on August 29, 2018, 05:54:09 PM
Maybe then Benedict/Ratzinger will come out with the details on the "Dossier"  that apparently convinced him ( or coerced) to resign. If he was threatened , then Ratzinger is still Pope; and that would prove that Francis is an illegitimate anti-pope. Wouldn't all of his(Bergoglio's) appointments and canonizations prove invalid at that point?
I'm not saying that Benedict was great or anything, but better than a conclave stacked with Bergoglio sodomites..... We don't need no stinkin' conclave until all the rats are gone. 
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: josefamenendez on August 29, 2018, 06:02:16 PM
And it is true- there's no business like shoah business, like no business I know
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: MMagdala on August 30, 2018, 01:48:47 AM
I'm always amazed at how few members bother to vote in these polls.  Over 3,000 members on the forum and only a couple of handfuls of them ever vote even though no one is obliged to explain their vote or even identify that they've even voted.

I'd like to see a poll that garners at least a third of the forum membership.  I think that would truly be a representative sample.
I voted the second option, which is the largest percentage so far.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Neil Obstat on August 30, 2018, 06:28:24 AM

Look how Francis is hiding his papal cross when talking with Jєωs. Is he ashamed of Christ?

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This papal action is out of an up-to-date concern for his masters' feelings -- priority one, do not be called αnтι-ѕємιтє.
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(Definition of αnтι-ѕємιтє: anyone who does anything that the Jєωs don't like or that offends them.)
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And here we were supposing he had a non-descript pectoral cross designed JUST TO AVOID facing such a concealment situation, since a cross without a Corpus or an INRI isn't even a crucifix, and therefore he wouldn't have to be ashamed of it or shouldn't have to fear it would offend anyone, but no, he's afraid still, even with his half-baked imposter cross at the end of his chain. So even when he knows he wants to avoid uncomfortable situations in the future and therefore takes evasive action long in advance, still it's not enough, he faces the intolerable setup anyway, and he STILL has to hide his pectoral cross. How sorry a state is this, anyway?
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Neil Obstat on August 30, 2018, 06:48:12 AM

Maybe then Benedict/Ratzinger will come out with the details on the "Dossier" that apparently convinced him (or coerced) to resign. If he was threatened, then Ratzinger is still Pope; and that would prove that Francis is an illegitimate anti-pope. Wouldn't all of his (Bergoglio's) appointments and canonizations prove invalid at that point?

I'm not saying that Benedict was great or anything, but better than a conclave stacked with Bergoglio sodomites..... We don't need no stinkin' conclave until all the rats are gone.

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Just think, then the sedes can be half right, Fr. Paul Kramer can be 100% right, and they can all live happily ever after. The End.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Incredulous on August 30, 2018, 08:03:24 AM
Please tell us more about this option:


I have not heard about this prophecy.

In 2006, Father Hesse launched a good discussion on the LaSalette prophecy by Our Lady of the "Two Worm Ridden Popes".  

The talk starts a 1:47
Father Hesse LaSalette prophecy on two worm ridden popes (https://youtu.be/iTVTgmCvZ6g)

It fits with the unique Benedict/Francis situation we have now.

I agree with Forlorn, to the extent, that Our Lady of LaSalette's message has been intentionally garbled or suppressed.

For example, Roy Shoeman, a.k.a., the "miraculous marrano" has admonished trad Catholics for interpreting a worldwide crisis for the Church from Our Lady's message.  He insists it was just a local apparition intended for this French village.

Note: Father Hesse's Church knowledge is widely respected.
Even the SSPX feared to challenge him directly, lacking the Canon Law knowledge and theological fire power inherent in their Orders.
Instead, Menzingen relies on home-grown theologians like Fr. Robinson or Fr. Laisney... or 3rd party chumps like Siscoe & Salza to speak for them.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: josefamenendez on August 30, 2018, 09:27:20 AM
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Just think, then the sedes can be half right, Fr. Paul Kramer can be 100% right, and they can all live happily ever after. The End.
If ( and that is truly if) Benedict was Pope all along, how is that a half- Sede position? Would they concede to a position like this? Curious
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: TKGS on August 30, 2018, 09:48:02 AM
Indeed, 22 people comprise most of the active members of this forum here in the States. By tomorrow morning, CI should have heard from the rest of those in Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, the Middle East, and in Europe.
Wow!  There are 5 members in Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, the Middle East, and Europe!
Ya'll got me there!
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: MyrnaM on August 30, 2018, 10:31:18 AM
I don't really know but I voted number two.

Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: songbird on August 30, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
It's all Jєωιѕн show biz, just follow the money trail!
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Geremia on August 30, 2018, 03:59:09 PM
shoah business
lol like holohox?
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: josefamenendez on August 30, 2018, 06:13:16 PM
Hollyhocks or h0Ɩ0h0αx? :laugh2:
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Neil Obstat on August 30, 2018, 07:32:27 PM
If (and that is truly if) Benedict was Pope all along, how is that a half-Sede position? Would they concede to a position like this? Curious
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Good Question! Perhaps some would, but I expect most would not. Half of two equals one.  
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Neil Obstat on August 30, 2018, 07:38:28 PM
Wow!  There are 5 [7] members in Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, the Middle East, and Europe!
Ya'll got me there!
29 - 22 = 7

And don't forget Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, Guam, Pitcairn, Easter, Galapagos, Azores, Madagascar and Tihiti.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Nadir on August 30, 2018, 09:30:18 PM
Indeed, 22 people comprise most of the active members of this forum here in the States. By tomorrow morning, CI should have heard from the rest of those in Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, the Middle East, and in Europe.
Maria Regina, this Aussie had already voted before you posted this!
Don't you know that we are ahead of the U.S. timewise? :cheers:     
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Nadir on August 30, 2018, 09:33:35 PM
Wow!  There are 5 members in Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, the Middle East, and Europe!
Ya'll got me there!
TKGS, I think you got your numbers wrong! 
Matthew, bring back those little national flags please!
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Nadir on August 30, 2018, 09:38:39 PM
29 - 22 = 7

And don't forget Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, Guam, Pitcairn, Easter, Galapagos, Azores, Madagascar and Tihiti.
There's a member in Madagascar, Neil? I got all excited about that.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Struthio on August 30, 2018, 11:18:50 PM
And in case Bergoglio resigns: Will they find someone who wants to be his successor?

The question should be: If a successor is picked, will he be any different from Francis since all the electable Cardinals are modernists?
Only a powerful miracle from God that struck many cardinals dead followed by overwhelming grace would prevent this.

I don't think so. That bunch of fαɢs, for the time being headed by Bergoglio, already has got the jitters.

And then there are the Prophetia Sancti Malachiae Archiepiscopi, de Summis Pontificibus, as well as the prophecy of the cruel end of the Whore of Babylon.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Struthio on August 30, 2018, 11:22:39 PM
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Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: TKGS on August 31, 2018, 08:50:33 AM
TKGS, I think you got your numbers wrong!
Matthew, bring back those little national flags please!
Nah.  I was just going off the previous post.
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I'm willing to bet that we won't get 100 votes before voting closes on September 10th.  We'll probably be lucky to get 50.

I wonder how many members in Vatican City will vote.
Title: Re: Will Pope Francis resign ?
Post by: Maria Regina on August 31, 2018, 01:04:04 PM
Maria Regina, this Aussie had already voted before you posted this!
Don't you know that we are ahead of the U.S. timewise? :cheers:    
Of course. I saw you on the list of active members, so I knew that you had probably already voted, but that was in the morning (a day ahead of us), wasn't it?

I figured that most of those from the Western Pacific areas (Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Philippines, etc.) were at work and unable to post until they got home.