Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Will Luther Be The Next Canonized Saint? Guimaraes  (Read 937 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline AJNC

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1002
  • Reputation: +567/-43
  • Gender: Male
Will Luther Be The Next Canonized Saint? Guimaraes
« on: October 01, 2016, 09:28:18 PM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0

  • http://traditioninaction.org/bev/195bev09_30_2016.htm

    Atila Sinke Guimarães
    WILL LUTHER BE THE NEXT CANONIZED ‘SAINT’?
     -  When I read about the jubilant commemorations that the Conciliar Church will sponsor together with the Lutheran World Federation at the end of October in Sweden, I wondered whether Francis is preparing to surprise the world by canonizing the revolted monk of the 16th century as another manifestations of his “mercy.” Indeed, after he has canonized immorality and Woodstock lifestyle with Wojtyla, has beatified ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity with Montini and enshrined religious indifferentism with Teresa of Calcutta, why could he not canonize heresy – blatant and furious heresy – with Luther?



    Will Luther, Calvin & Zwingli be declared 'saints' by the Conciliar Church?
    Some reader may think that I am “off the wall” with this comment. Unfortunately, I am not. The foundation for my hypothesis relies on some precedents, which we should keep in mind if we want to understand the events in Sweden this coming October / November:

        1970 – When the same Lutheran World Federation met at Evian, Card. Jan Willebrands, then president of the Secretariat for Promoting Christian Unity, spoke of Luther in terms that Catholics usually reserve for St. Thomas Aquinas. The latter justly deserves the title of “common master” or “common doctor,” meaning that he should be respected by all theological schools in the Church. Yet, Card. Willebrands praised Luther in his official speech, applying to Luther the title “common master.” (1)

        1983 – As the 500th anniversary of the birth of the heresiarch approached, John Paul II wrote a letter to Card. Willebrands paying homage to Luther by calling him “doctor,” bringing to mind the praise of Willebrands quoted above. These were Wojtyla’s words: “November 10th is the 500th anniversary of the birth of Doctor Martin Luther of Eisleben. On this occasion numerous Christians remember that theologian who … contributed substantially to the radical change of ecclesiastical and secular reality in the West. Until today our world feels his great impact on History.”

        Further in that letter, JPII responded to the Protestant request for dialogue and praises Luther: “I welcome this intention with satisfaction, seeing it as a fraternal invitation to achieve a more profound and complete vision of historical events and a critical analysis of Luther’s multifarious heritage through a common effort. Indeed, the scientific research of evangelical and Catholic scholars, which has already led to many points of convergence, have made a more complete and nuanced picture of Luther’s personality, as well as a more complex interlacing of the historical, political and ecclesiastical reality in the … 16th century. These results have given visible proof of the profound religiosity of Luther, who was moved by an ardent passion for the question of eternal salvation.” (2)

        1984 – In an ecuмenical speech delivered at Bari, Card. Willebrands summarized what the Conciliar Church had done thus far to satisfy the demands of Martin Luther: “In addition to recovering the central role of Scripture in the Church and the live of the faithful, since Vatican II Catholics are increasingly willing to reassess the common priesthood of the faithful and the co-responsibility of laymen in the whole life of the Church; to recognize the character of the Pilgrim Church on earth; to reevaluate local churches; to accept liturgical reform with the introduction of national languages; to concede to having Communion under the two species and accept the declaration of religious liberty.” (3)

        As the year 2000 approached, John Paul II tried to establish a common martyrology for Catholics, Schismatics and Protestants. (4) With this aim, he made eulogies of Jan Hus, Zwingli and Calvin, giving the impression they would be included along with Luther in that list of saints. (5) The common martyrology did not fly. A strong reaction among traditionalists and muted internal resistance in the Roman Curia boycotted the initiative. This does not mean that Progressivism has changed its plan; on the contrary, its partisans are seeking an opportunity to make these heretics “saints.”

     

     
        2011 – Benedict XVI emphatically pointed to Luther as a model to be followed (here). His support for Protestantism was constant during his entire pontificate. (here, here, here & here)

        Let us not forget that in 1999 Card. Raztinger, today Benedict XVI, was the one who penned the Catholic-Lutheran Augsburg Accord (here and here) on the doctrine of justification, which saved the ecuмenical relationship with the Protestants from a complete shipwreck.

    These are data from the past that speak in favor of a sensational gesture that could come from Francis regarding Luther either this October or sometime later.

    Now, regarding the events planned for the end of October in Sweden, the news communiqué reports:

    “The Lutheran World Federation – LWF – has released details of the two-day Joint Ecuмenical Commemorations from October 31 to November 1 in Lund and Malmö in Sweden that will mark the official start of the 2017 Reformation Jubilee. The commemorations, which Pope Francis will attend, are jointly hosted by the LWF and the Catholic Church.” (6)

    So, 51 years after the closing of Vatican II, the Conciliar Church has infiltrated the Catholic Church so forcefully that the teaching of the Council of Trent and the First Vatican Council, which uniformly reflect the perennial mind of the Church, were changed so radically that today Martin Luther, the heretic per antonomasia, is accepted as a great model to be followed. His act of revolt will be celebrated by a conciliar Pope in a public act before the whole world.

    Does this not incline one to conjecture that Luther can be declared a “saint” of this apostate Church next month or sometime soon?

    Who cannot see all these festivities as a clear proof that this Church hardly has anything Catholic in it?

        Cf. Jan Willebrands, “Lecture delivered at the 5th Assembly of the Lutheran World Federation, July 15, 1970, La Docuмentation Catholique, September, 6, 1970, pp. 765-766, apud Quo Vadis Petre?, Los Angeles: TIA, 1999, pp. 17-20.
        John Paul II, Letter to Cardinal Willlebrands of October 1983, published under the title “La verità storica su Lutero alimenti il dialogo per unità,” L’Osservatore Romano, November 6, 1983, apud ibid. pp. 21-22.
        J. Willebrands, Speech about Luther at the St. Nicolas Institute of Bari, published under the title “Il Card. Willebrands inaugura il corso dell’Instituto S. Nicola,” L’Osservatore Romano, February, 5, 1984, p. 6, apud ibid. pp. 20-21.
        Cf. Tertio millennio adveniente (1994, § 37); Ut unum sint (1995 § 48).
        Cf. Quo Vadis Petre? pp- 10-26
        The Tablet, September 3, 2016, p. 26.



    Offline Neil Obstat

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18177
    • Reputation: +8276/-692
    • Gender: Male
    Will Luther Be The Next Canonized Saint? Guimaraes
    « Reply #1 on: October 01, 2016, 11:50:31 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • I don't have any opposition to what Atila S.G. says here.  He is a staunch defender of the Faith with many scholarly books in print.

    Quote
    Let us not forget that in 1999 Card. Raztinger, today Benedict XVI, was the one who penned the Catholic-Lutheran Augsburg Accord (here and here) on the doctrine of justification, which saved the ecuмenical relationship with the Protestants from a complete shipwreck.

    I have to wonder though, whether the precise wording above was deliberate, but I would expect that it was, knowing Atila and his attention to detail.  If it was, he is saying somewhat subtly that perhaps Benedict XVI is still Pope, and that we have TWO popes.  For if he did not deliberately choose to imply this, he would have said "Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI" or perhaps "erstwhile Benedict XVI" or some such thing.

    In any event, at the end of October is the Lutheran Reformation Day annual non-feast day (Lutherans rebelled against the principle of liturgical feast days so they don't dare call it a "Feast Day").  This year, as it does every year, it coincides in America with All Hallow's Eve (the eve of the Feast of All Hallows, or All Saints' Day) a.k.a. Hallowe'en, October 31st.  Of course, in Germany and especially in 1517, there was no cultural observance of Halloween, which is principally an American phenomenon.

    NONETHELESS, the similarity in tone between Halloween and the annual Protestant/Lutheran observance of the Day that Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the front door of the Wittenberg Chapel, Germany, is not to be easily dismissed.  Lutherans don't usually like to recognize the similarity and attempt to draw distinctions and even sometimes bemoan the distraction that Halloween causes, but that tack doesn't merit much recognition at large from what I've seen.

    .--. .-.-.- ... .-.-.- ..-. --- .-. - .... . -.- .. -. --. -.. --- -- --..-- - .... . .--. --- .-- . .-. .- -. -.. -....- -....- .--- ..- ... - -.- .. -.. -.. .. -. --. .-.-.


    Offline TKGS

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5768
    • Reputation: +4621/-480
    • Gender: Male
    Will Luther Be The Next Canonized Saint? Guimaraes
    « Reply #2 on: October 02, 2016, 02:45:35 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    I don't have any opposition to what Atila S.G. says here.  He is a staunch defender of the Faith with many scholarly books in print.

    Quote
    Let us not forget that in 1999 Card. Raztinger, today Benedict XVI, was the one who penned the Catholic-Lutheran Augsburg Accord (here and here) on the doctrine of justification, which saved the ecuмenical relationship with the Protestants from a complete shipwreck.

    I have to wonder though, whether the precise wording above was deliberate, but I would expect that it was, knowing Atila and his attention to detail.  If it was, he is saying somewhat subtly that perhaps Benedict XVI is still Pope, and that we have TWO popes.  For if he did not deliberately choose to imply this, he would have said "Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI" or perhaps "erstwhile Benedict XVI" or some such thing.


    He's not being subtle at all.  He is using the name that the Vatican itself uses for Ratzinger.  He is still referred as Benedict XVI.  Whether or not Atila Sinke Guimarães is a "resignationist" isn't something I know, but this article doesn't imply it.

    Offline Neil Obstat

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18177
    • Reputation: +8276/-692
    • Gender: Male
    Will Luther Be The Next Canonized Saint? Guimaraes
    « Reply #3 on: October 15, 2016, 12:21:36 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Getting closer to zero hour............

    .--. .-.-.- ... .-.-.- ..-. --- .-. - .... . -.- .. -. --. -.. --- -- --..-- - .... . .--. --- .-- . .-. .- -. -.. -....- -....- .--- ..- ... - -.- .. -.. -.. .. -. --. .-.-.

    Offline Stubborn

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 13823
    • Reputation: +5568/-865
    • Gender: Male
    Will Luther Be The Next Canonized Saint? Guimaraes
    « Reply #4 on: October 15, 2016, 05:07:31 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Snip from: The Facts About Luther pp 169-170 by Rt. Rev. Mons. Patrick F. 0'Hare, LL.D. 1916



    ....The intensity of his bitterness towards the Head of the Church was especially manifested on leaving the Council of Schmalkalden, when he made the sign of the cross over the assembled crowds and cried out: "May the Lord fill you with hatred of the Pope."

    Carried away by his wild aspirations for dominance he was convinced that he was to outlast the Papacy. In his insanity, he forgot, however, that the chair of Peter was like the Ark of the Covenant. No Uzzah ever touched it irreverently and remained unscathed. The keen-sighted Voltaire, another apostate, very aptly expressed this historic truth in the famous saying: *He who eats Pope, dies of it."

    The Cynic of Ferney read in the world's annals a truth to which Luther remained blind. "He remained blind to it," as Anderdon says, "because the evil passions to which he surrendered himself, his jealousy, his arrogance, and obstinate wrong-headedness and lust of dominion, and sensual downward tendencies, had caused the light that was in him to become darkness."

    The keynote of his whole movement of Reformation is sounded in the Latin line he wrote on a piece of plaster at a banquet, "where the Princes entertained him magnificently and regaled him with the finest Rhenish wine," and where, as Seckendorf tells, "he drank like a true German".

    'Testis eram vivus, moriens tua mors ero Papa."
    "Living I was your pest; dying, O Pope, I shall be your death."

    The merry guests, delighted with his humor, sat down, and Luther "continued to vent his wit in sarcasms against his natural enemies, the pope, the emperor, the monks, and also the devil, whom he did not forget, to the delight of the frivolous and bibulous company." As the boisterous and irreverent crowd rose from the table, a report of the death of Paul III reached them. Luther, delighted at the news, cried out, exultingly, 'This is the fourth Pope I have buried: I shall bury many more of them." He that dwelleth in heaven, however, laughed at the prediction. Luther was taken suddenly ill and in spite of all the attention of his assembled guests in a few hours he was called to the judgment seat of God to render an account of his long and bitter opposition to the Church
    and its legitimate representative. "He ate Pope and died of it.''...
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse