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Author Topic: Will Catholics Ever Return to Mass?  (Read 3364 times)

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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Will Catholics Ever Return to Mass?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2021, 03:50:56 PM »
I wonder about those Catholics in Japan who were without priests/sacraments for 100's of years.  ?
Look at what 100s of years without priests/sacraments did to Japan, they've been worshiping Buddha ever since - no? I don't know, I am asking because it seems like everyone thinks they've kept the faith after 100s of years without priests/sacraments.

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Re: Will Catholics Ever Return to Mass?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2021, 03:59:32 PM »


Re: Will Catholics Ever Return to Mass?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2021, 04:41:40 PM »
I believe (could be wrong) couples may marry without a priest if none can be had for over two months, to prevent concupisence, or if extenuating conditions exist, exactly like financial, legal, care of children, basic needs like food, clothing, shelter.  In the case I heard about, the couple had purchased a house after being engaged for three years.  They had both not signed a lease for the next calendar year, in the belief that they had a priest.  At the last week, their county was locked down, making it impossible for the priest to come, they both had to be out of their rentals, and to complicate even more, the man has full custody of his special needs son with a woman to whom he was never married from his pre-conversion days.  These were older people, in their late 40s, who had nowhere to go, iow, the man and son, at least, would be homeless.  Rather than risking moving in together they did their own marriage.  

Re: Will Catholics Ever Return to Mass?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2021, 05:13:42 PM »
Look at what 100s of years without priests/sacraments did to Japan, they've been worshiping Buddha ever since - no? I don't know, I am asking because it seems like everyone thinks they've kept the faith after 100s of years without priests/sacraments.
Close to 60% doesn't even believe in God. They will go to Shinto shrines on major holidays like New Year's, but do not functionally belong to a religion like people do in the West.

Re: Will Catholics Ever Return to Mass?
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2021, 05:32:56 PM »
Marriage is essential for some. St. Paul teaches better to marry then to burn. Some will burn without marriage because of concupiscence.
The Japanese had marriage without priests during those years. They had valid matrimony and valid baptism. And they had the rosary.
There are many faithful Catholics in Japan. Japan never became a Catholic Country. Catholics were always a small minority. There is tradition there and even a Japanese priest in the SSPX.