Author Topic: Why there are so many white racists in the Traditional movement (Read 7173 times)

s2srea · « **on:** July 08, 2012, 09:07:46 PM »

I wanted to discuss this issue. There is nothing wrong with taking pride in one's race. But there is definitely an issue in the Traditional movement, and is exemplified here on this forum, with people who marginalize others of non-"white" ethnic origins who are themselves "white" (I'll need PereJoseph here to clarify how stupid of a word that is, "white race"- I have not the patience nor the clarity to do so adequately).

Anyways, I think one of these reasons, is because being a traditional Catholic, means being outside the mainstream. Because the mainstream is far off to the 'left', though being either left or 'right' is not Catholic, the traditional Catholic is able to point out its errors on race. It has its errors in deed, and people of Euopean decent have indeed been marginalized. But the extreme Jansenist attitude which comes about as a counteraction is heavily influenced with Protestant ideals which are far removed from the Catholic faith.

These people have successfully idealized people like Hitler. While he was right on many questions, the Jєωιѕн Question, the Communists, etc., he was far from sanctity and being a good Catholic example.

It seems as if these young men, and I say this because they're mostly "young" and "men", though there are exceptions, have already made the step outside the 'mainstream' into traditional Catholicism, which is good, however, instead of continuing to pursue Catholic ideals, which have always been moderate and balanced, as is the nature of our Faith, they are easily influenced by those who indeed attempt to use the nature of Traddie Land to further their agendas.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2012, 09:21:50 PM »

Are there other kinds of racists?

Sigismund · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2012, 10:30:04 PM »

Sure there are. The Nation of Islam is made up of black racists. While I don't buy the all Jєωs are evil position of many here, some Jєωs, especially very Orthodox ones, harbor racist attitudes.

Marcelino · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2012, 11:29:44 PM »

Look at The Spanish cινιℓ ωαr of the 1930s. The "right" consisted of a coalition of the military, fascists, monarchists and roman catholics. One of their big issues was what makes a man a spaniard: where he was born (soil) or from whom he was born (blood). The "right" fought for blood and the "left" fought for soil.

The true right and true left haven't changed their tune on those issues one iota and, as far as the principle is concerned, never will. As far as I can tell, it's just the way God made us. The right submits to that and the left makes war on it.

The "middle" is for yellow lines, not cars

Santo Subito · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2012, 11:37:20 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

Sure there are. The Nation of Islam is made up of black racists. While I don't buy the all Jєωs are evil position of many here, some Jєωs, especially very Orthodox ones, harbor racist attitudes.

I think he was being sarcastic. :wink:

Raoul76 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2012, 12:16:29 AM »

Antichrist will appear to be a righteous hero, I am almost certain he will appear to be as "right" as VII was left, pretending to sweep the world of evil while really being the culmination of it.

As I have said elsewhere, I believe you are seeing the first burblings of the future Antichrist and his cronies here. Remember, Christ's greatest enemies in His own time, the ones who crucified Him, were not liberals, but extreme right-wing PHARISEES. Antichrist and his army will also be Pharisees. Mark my words. Though hopefully, we will be dead!

ggreg · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2012, 06:43:48 PM »

There are less now than there were in the late 1980s and early 1990s in London.

I don't think it is so much that Traditionalist tend to be racists, (quite the reverse). More that racists tend to be attracted to Traditional Catholicism because of the structure and discipline and the stand it takes against the errors of liberal socialism.

s2srea · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2012, 07:03:17 PM »

Quote from: ggreg

There are less now than there were in the late 1980s and early 1990s in London.

I don't think it is so much that Traditionalist tend to be racists, (quite the reverse). More that racists tend to be attracted to Traditional Catholicism because of the structure and discipline and the stand it takes against the errors of liberal socialism.

This was my point exactly. Thanks.

alaric · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2012, 07:25:55 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Antichrist will appear to be a righteous hero, I am almost certain he will appear to be as "right" as VII was left, pretending to sweep the world of evil while really being the culmination of it.

As I have said elsewhere, I believe you are seeing the first burblings of the future Antichrist and his cronies here. Remember, Christ's greatest enemies in His own time, the ones who crucified Him, were not liberals, but extreme right-wing PHARISEES. Antichrist and his army will also be Pharisees. Mark my words. Though hopefully, we will be dead!

Christ's greatest enemies then as in now are JєωS.......nothing's changed.

You can sugarcoat it all you want and call them "pharisees" but it is the Jєω who has been attacking and persecuting the cross of Christ since Calvary.

And Jєωs are on the right and left of the political and religious spectrum, it doesn't matter, they infiltrate and effectively take over both sides and will continue their assault on the Church until the end of days.

As far as the "racists" charge in the OP, "racism" is just another commie Jєωιѕн construct. Usually the biggest whiners about other people being "racists" really harbor some deep-seated dislike people of other races themselves for one reason or another. Or have just consumed a little too much "kewl-aid" from the leftist twits out there.

s2srea · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:08:40 PM »

Quote from: alaric

As far as the "racists" charge in the OP, "racism" is just another commie Jєωιѕн construct. Usually the biggest whiners about other people being "racists" really harbor some deep-seated dislike people of other races themselves for one reason or another. Or have just consumed a little too much "kewl-aid" from the leftist twits out there.

Great job on addressing absolutely nothing :wink:

SaintBasil · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:40:43 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

Sure there are. The Nation of Islam is made up of black racists. While I don't buy the all Jєωs are evil position of many here, some Jєωs, especially very Orthodox ones, harbor racist attitudes.

To some reading your post, they might believe that YOU are a Crypto.
All Jєωs classify Non Jєωs as GOYIM or cattle.
They alone call themselves God's Chosen. Is that not enough to convince you?

Maybe you Need to see some тαℓмυd, its verifiable in any hyperlinked Jєω/Hebrew encyclopedia.

тαℓмυd:

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jєω murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jєω steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Baba Kamma 113a. Jєωs may use lies ("subterfuges") to circuмvent a Gentile.

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Insults Against Blessed Mary

Sanhedrin 106a . "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters."

SaintBasil · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:46:33 PM »

Quote from: ggreg

There are less now than there were in the late 1980s and early 1990s in London.

I don't think it is so much that Traditionalist tend to be racists, (quite the reverse). More that racists tend to be attracted to Traditional Catholicism because of the structure and discipline and the stand it takes against the errors of liberal socialism.

I think this is alot of nonsense.

Many of use here are simply Racially aware. That does not make one a racist.

Many wish to see their race in perpetuity, not be bred into extinction by those that attack our Faith and Race while insisting on strict racial laws for their own, like Jєω ONlY Marriage laws in Israel.

Many have great Pride in their European (White) Catholic backgrounds, our accomplishments, our great Western Civilization which we gave to the world, Our Great gifts to the world (Germans in particular-Like inventing the Car, Diesel, Combustion engine, TV, Computer, X Rays, Thermometer, Clock, electromagnetic waves, Submarine, just to name a few.

If you wish to see racism, go stay in Occupied Palestine. Or become a homeowner in a black ghetto.
Or talk to the 900,000 victims in American annually of Interracial crimes.
Thats real racism.

NOT all cultures are created equal, view life in India among corpses unburied and in the water..
http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions.html

Marcelino · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2012, 12:53:07 AM »

The problem with the term "racist" is that it has been rendered meaningless in our culture, by our cultural elites.

Racism is synonymous with Bigotry and Bigotry is stubbornly clinging to an idea despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Now, we are supposed to believe that "science" has proved that race doesn't matter. Even in clothing, black models are routinely put in clothes that look good on whites (particularly, whites with blonde hair and blue eyes), while whites are put in clothes that look good on blacks. Just a basic knowledge of fashion should prove to you that race matters. It's not just skin color, but eyes, hair, body shape, face shape, size of eyes, nose and mouth. This knowledge is as old as the hills and it gets carted out at some higher priced clothing stores, when sales are down or perhaps as a means of political pacification. But in general, the rules are ignored. Why? I guess because that is supposed to "prove" race doesn't matter. Well, I'm sorry, but blacks look silly in greyed blues and summery blondes look awful in black

And that's just one example. There are droves of others, but these clothing catalogs drive me nuts. The models are supposed to help you shop, not confuse you!

guitarplucker · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2012, 01:32:54 AM »

Quote from: s2srea

Quote from: ggreg
There are less now than there were in the late 1980s and early 1990s in London.

I don't think it is so much that Traditionalist tend to be racists, (quite the reverse). More that racists tend to be attracted to Traditional Catholicism because of the structure and discipline and the stand it takes against the errors of liberal socialism.

This was my point exactly. Thanks.

This is ggreg from a thread on Fisheaters recently (http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3451224.0.html):

Quote

If the Sudanese they have there are anything like the ones we have in London then the sooner they are on a plane and back in Sudan the better.

Let's face reality here. Most Africans cannot just jump on an aeroplane and integrate into a western democracy or first world country.

They nearly all end up living in social housing and claiming benefits and earning extra money on-top by gypsy cabbing at best or petty crime at worst.

I have absolutely nothing against Polish people, Chinese people or Brazilians who come to this country, work, marry have normal families and a normal life and integrate themselves, more or less, into the national character. But Sudanese, Afghans and Bumdoostaniks are just TOO far removed from civilisation to be a net contributor to society. They end up living in ghettos and earning money by some sort of fraud.

I'd kick them out.

People need to wise up and learn how to fit in to the world. If they want to hold onto their crap culture which has made Africa a basket case then they should stay in Africa. Their primitive minds are not compatible with life in first world countries.

Most people would call that a racist comment. I wouldn't. I'd just call it the truth.

I've read s2rsea post stuff about blacks that most people would call racist.

Watch out with ggreg. He's a slippery guy. He often appears to be one thing, then you turn around and he's something else. I don't know if he's intentionally devious, or if his years as a salesmen rubbed off on him in the wrong way. He has a way of "pitching" things.

But roscoe is correct that racism is a fraudulent term. That's not to say racial tension and animosity isn't a fact of life, hence this thread.

SaintBasil · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:06:10 AM »

The Liberal-Marxist definition of a Racist:

1. An Ideology in which Whites Object to being 3rd World citizen- slaves in the countries their ancestors founded.

2. Any attempt by members of the white race to Object to and Stop a 3rd world invasion and takeover of their nation.

3. Any words that Fail to Praise and acknowledge Non whites as Culturally Superior and ethnically unique.

4. A belief system in which Whites Fail to Hate their Own race and fail to promote other races over their own.

5. The Failure of the White Race to Submit to Extinction and Extermination by Non white immigration and race mixing.

6. Any attempt by Whites to Stop Blacks from committing 1 million (Interracial) racially motivated Hate crimes on them. 90% of al l Interracial hate crimes.

7. The Failure to Embrace Affirmative action policies that give under or unqualified Non whites preferential treatment over whites for employment and education.

8. A mandate proclaiming that evil whites should be alllowed to preserve their race and culture & teach their children of white accomplishments.

9. Or ANY COHESIVE GROUP OF WHITES WHO GATHER TOGETHER, WHO PREFERENCE BEING AROUND OTHER WHITES..

Goals of Marxism:
a. Destroy the Nation
b. Destroy the Family
c. Destroy Christian Religion
d. Destroy Private Property-For goyim

2 Excellent Blogs that discuss race candidly:

http://truthisahatecrime.blogspot.com/

http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/2012/04/28/the-liberal-definition-of-racism/