Author Topic: Consecration LiveStream (Read 3455 times)

DigitalLogos · « **Reply #40 on:** March 28, 2022, 08:51:15 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on March 28, 2022, 08:24:59 PM

Of course it is. That's not some kind of revelation. Consequently, since Bergoglio's intention was to solicit the exact opposite, freedom and peace for the practice of all religions and a syncretistic harmony among all mankind, the SSPX was behooven and obliged to call this thing out for what it was instead of playing along and misleading the faithful that this was in keeping with Our Blessed Mother's request. Maybe Father Couture has a response to that?

Interestingly enough, Louie V points out that the SSPX's alternative consecration prayer shows their hand a bit

:

https://akacatholic.com/does-the-sspx-really-believe-that-bergoglio-is-pope/

Tradman · « **Reply #41 on:** March 28, 2022, 09:39:28 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on March 28, 2022, 08:29:00 PM

Please tell me you're kidding. Bergoglio expressed in his formula the exact opposite of what Our Lady requested. Please read Father Girouard's analysis. There wasn't a single mention of reparation for the sins and blasphemies of mankind against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

No, I'm not kidding. If Bergoglio is somehow the legit pope (and we are all aware he is a modernist par excellence, utterly inept to lead the Catholic Church, a promoter of idolatry and heresy and everything else that we're all too painfully aware) the Consecration is valid. While he embellished where he did, and eliminated what he did, he actually included the bare bones requests of Our Lady in the Consecration. Matthew 18:18 comes to mind. "Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven." Of course, what was accomplished on the 25th of March was entirely God's doing and had little to do with Francis except he somehow managed to rally bishops of the world, something no other pope even attempted, spoke the specifics previous pope omitted, and did it in what appeared to be a reverent way. I honestly didn't think Francis could escape the temptation to overtly add verses to his idols. But he did. I didn't think the words "consecrate Russia to Mary's Immaculate Heart" would ever come out of his mouth. But they did. The only thing that could keep this from being effective is if Francis is not the pope.

Geremia · « **Reply #42 on:** March 29, 2022, 11:06:07 AM »

Quote from: Tradman on March 28, 2022, 09:39:28 PM

If Bergoglio is somehow the legit pope […] the Consecration is valid.

Even if he were merely a secular leader, would his consecration ipso facto have no good fruits?
Cannot kings themselves consecrate their nations?
For example, from The Story of Our Lady of Good Success and Novena:

Quote from: ch.1, fn7

President Garcia Moreno solemnly consecrated Ecuador to the Sacred Heart of Jesus on March 25, 1874, the feast of the Annunciation and of the Incarnation of the Word. It was the first country in the world to do this. A year afterwards, on August 6, 1875, Garcia Moreno was brutally αssαssιnαtҽd by Masonry in the Plaza of Quito, which is at the foot of the presidential palace and diagonally across from the convent of the Immaculate Conception.

2Vermont · « **Reply #43 on:** March 29, 2022, 11:20:08 AM »

Quote from: DigitalLogos on March 28, 2022, 08:51:15 PM

Interestingly enough, Louie V points out that the SSPX's alternative consecration prayer shows their hand a bit :

https://akacatholic.com/does-the-sspx-really-believe-that-bergoglio-is-pope/

Louie has been spot on as of late.

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