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Offline knish

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Why I finally Caved
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2016, 04:54:46 PM »
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    Today marks my first day as a sedevacantist. I have finally caved, after years of fighting my conscience. [....]

    Amongst other things. Anyway, it's been fun, R&R. But, I'm done. I'm done with the double-think, faulty logic and nonsense. I reject this false Church and all associated with it.


    So what will you do differently now?

     

    Probably nothing, in practice. Gonna continue going to the SSPX, as I have no sede chapels nearby. That aside, I'll stop lying to myself and engaging in double-think.
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    « Reply #16 on: June 09, 2016, 07:54:13 AM »
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    • One of my wife's favorite Saints is Gemma BTW.  She is quite an interesting story.
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    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #17 on: June 09, 2016, 08:02:17 AM »
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    One of my wife's favorite Saints is Gemma BTW.  She is quite an interesting story.

    Yes, very interesting indeed. One of my favorite saints as well. Hence, the profile picture. I have a deep fascination for mystics.
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    « Reply #18 on: June 09, 2016, 08:15:25 AM »
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    One of my wife's favorite Saints is Gemma BTW.  She is quite an interesting story.

    Yes, very interesting indeed. One of my favorite saints as well. Hence, the profile picture. I have a deep fascination for mystics.


    Saint Gemma Galgani ora pro nobis and help us to be like unto you.
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    « Reply #19 on: June 15, 2016, 02:22:34 PM »
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    • I have since recanted of my error and am no longer a sedevacantist. I pray I have not lead anyone astray by this post.

    God Bless,
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    « Reply #20 on: June 15, 2016, 02:47:49 PM »
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    • Wow!  All in just a week.

    To paraphrase Saint Thomas More's talk to William Roper (from Robert Bolt's A Man for All Seasons), a week ago you were a passionate Churchman; now you're a passionate Conciliarist.  We must just pray that when your head's finished turning, your face is to the front again.




    (Note:  The actual quote from the play is:  Listen, Roper. Two years ago you were a passionate Churchman; now you're a passionate-Lutheran. We must just pray that when your head's finished turning, your face is to the front again.)
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    « Reply #21 on: June 15, 2016, 05:07:38 PM »
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    I have since recanted of my error and am no longer a sedevacantist. I pray I have not lead anyone astray by this post.

    God Bless,
    Knish


    Do tell.

    How did this change come about?  

    What convinced you to renounce sedevacantism?
     
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    « Reply #22 on: June 16, 2016, 07:54:52 AM »
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    Wow!  All in just a week.

    To paraphrase Saint Thomas More's talk to William Roper (from Robert Bolt's A Man for All Seasons), a week ago you were a passionate Churchman; now you're a passionate Conciliarist.  We must just pray that when your head's finished turning, your face is to the front again.




    (Note:  The actual quote from the play is:  Listen, Roper. Two years ago you were a passionate Churchman; now you're a passionate-Lutheran. We must just pray that when your head's finished turning, your face is to the front again.)


    That movie is full of awesome quotes.  Sometimes if something makes "too" much sense is scares one.  That is too easy.  Wow all these problems within the "Church" is a result of their being an invalid Pope.  That is why all this nonsense gets officially "approved" and why I keep banging my head against the wall saying why did the Pope approve that and why did he promulgate that and why does he allow this, this and this and why does he do that, that and that and why does he pick all these heretics to be cardinals and why does he "canonize" devils?  

    I guess for any reason other than SV.  SV just makes too much sense.  Has to be something else more complicated.  
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    « Reply #23 on: June 16, 2016, 08:07:24 AM »
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    I guess for any reason other than SV.  SV just makes too much sense.  Has to be something else more complicated.  


    I find it interesting that many people who use Occam's razor, the theory that the simplest explanation is the most likely true explanation, to explain many things absolutely reject Occam's razor in regards to the sedevacantist explanation of the crisis.
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    « Reply #24 on: June 16, 2016, 08:15:59 AM »
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    I guess for any reason other than SV.  SV just makes too much sense.  Has to be something else more complicated.  


    I find it interesting that many people who use Occam's razor, the theory that the simplest explanation is the most likely true explanation, to explain many things absolutely reject Occam's razor in regards to the sedevacantist explanation of the crisis.


    Emotion gets in the way for many with SV.  Also the problem of "where will my children get the Sacraments and schooled?"  It is really quite mind-boggling.  Plants are set up everywhere to coral the god-willed in an erroneous understanding of things with the ultimate hope of preventing their salvation.  This is what the powers that be have been trying to do since they had our Lord Crucified.  The obvious Truth cannot, must not be true.  

    The Novus Ordo itself which is Zionist run.  The R & R which bases its whole reason for being upon a non-Catholic principle (the idea that Catholics can "resist" what valid Pope bind and maintain on the Church for five decades straight.  Mind boggling if you look at it objectively).  The Feeneyites who take traditional good-willed Catholics of the straight and narrow and immerse them in their grave error or heresy by insisting on what the Church does not insist on and teaching contrary to what the Church has taught.  Then the conduct of many SVs including and especially some clergy does not help.  

    1 + 1 = 2 always even when 3 or 4 would be a more preferable answer.  

    The Southern Poverty center is on record begging traditional Catholics to accept Vatican "2".  What does that tell you?
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    « Reply #25 on: June 16, 2016, 02:50:29 PM »
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    • the logic of SV is based on the premise that V2 is heresy, and that all the popes who promulgated it are therefore heretics. A true council has the authority of God, but God would never permit heresy to issue from such a council. Therefore, V2 did not have the authority of God. It was not a true council. Popes cannot be pertinacious heretics because they cease to be catholics when they are. So if the man in Rome is a pertinacious heretic, he is not a catholic, and therefore, he is not the pope. The entire NO is heretical from top to bottom. It is not the roman catholic church but an organized group of people occupy buildings that were once occupied by catholics.
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    « Reply #26 on: June 16, 2016, 03:53:05 PM »
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    I guess for any reason other than SV.  SV just makes too much sense.  Has to be something else more complicated.  


    I find it interesting that many people who use Occam's razor, the theory that the simplest explanation is the most likely true explanation, to explain many things absolutely reject Occam's razor in regards to the sedevacantist explanation of the crisis.


    It's not that we reject Occam's razor in regards to the sedevacantist explanation of the crisis, it's that using it, it's too easy to disprove sedevacantism.
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    « Reply #27 on: June 16, 2016, 05:32:26 PM »
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    I guess for any reason other than SV.  SV just makes too much sense.  Has to be something else more complicated.  


    I find it interesting that many people who use Occam's razor, the theory that the simplest explanation is the most likely true explanation, to explain many things absolutely reject Occam's razor in regards to the sedevacantist explanation of the crisis.


    It's not that we reject Occam's razor in regards to the sedevacantist explanation of the crisis, it's that using it, it's too easy to disprove sedevacantism.


    You, young man, are delusional.
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    « Reply #28 on: June 17, 2016, 08:41:09 AM »
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    • The conciliar popes were elected by the same process and in the same manner that the popes before them were elected. The conciliar popes accepted their election the same way the popes before them did.

    To put it in the words of Pope saint Pius X, after the newly elected accepts his election......."the man elected is instantly the true Pope, and he acquires and can exercise full and absolute jurisdiction over the whole world."

    It really is that simple.
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    « Reply #29 on: June 17, 2016, 09:02:42 AM »
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    The conciliar popes were elected by the same process and in the same manner that the popes before them were elected. The conciliar popes accepted their election the same way the popes before them did.

    To put it in the words of Pope saint Pius X, after the newly elected accepts his election......."the man elected is instantly the true Pope, and he acquires and can exercise full and absolute jurisdiction over the whole world."

    It really is that simple.


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