Author Topic: Why do you accuse them of jansenism? (Read 915 times)

spouse of Jesus · « **on:** January 28, 2010, 03:51:20 AM »

How is it that the accusation of being a jansenist is so frequent? Those self-appointed popes with their websites and also some of the members here are labled as jansenists/calvinists by some others.

CM · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2010, 04:17:06 AM »

Roscoe doesn't have a clue what he's talking about when it comes to theology (as was shown by Belloc, re: Jansenism). He appears to be lashing out in petty anger because he wants to hold onto the sin of getting high. He has never answered (as far as I have seen) the question of how much pot he smokes and how often.

I doubt he will, because we will then learn that he is a truly chronic (i.e. immoderate) pot addict.

He can correct me if I'm wrong, or he can ignore me or lash out some more.

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2010, 04:23:03 AM »

I don't mean roscoe, just see how some priests or an entire trad movement and also those self-appointed popes are said to be jansenists.

Clovis · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2010, 04:36:37 AM »

Quote from: spouse of Jesus

I don't mean roscoe, just see how some priests or an entire trad movement and also those self-appointed popes are said to be jansenists.

Because the term has come to mean anyone who is rigourist as opposed to laxist...St John Cassian who held semi-pelagian views would be labelled a Jansenist today.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2010, 09:37:53 AM »

Quote from: spouse of Jesus

How is it that the accusation of being a jansenist is so frequent? Those self-appointed popes with their websites and also some of the members here are labled as jansenists/calvinists by some others.

"Pope Augustine" isn't crazy, (in the sense of believing he's Pope) he's a liar.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2010, 09:42:24 AM »

Quote from: spouse of Jesus

I don't mean roscoe, just see how some priests or an entire trad movement and also those self-appointed popes are said to be jansenists.

It's quite simple: they don't know what they're talking about, and it's something they've heard.

Quoting saints they don't like: that's Jansenism to them. It's a way of accusing people of not being Catholic because they actually are Catholic, it's that silly.