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Offline Minnesota

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Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
« on: April 11, 2021, 12:56:12 PM »
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    • Wouldn't it being condemned by the Holy Office several times be enough of an indicator that self-professed Trads should avoid it? Along with it being prominent in the Novus Ordo? 

    On Sunday, it's Divine Mercy. On Tuesday, it's "St. John Paul II pray for us" and on Friday it's "Vatican II was a renewal in the church!" 

    We should be avoiding things like this if we call ourselves trads, tbh.
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #1 on: April 11, 2021, 01:02:42 PM »
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    • Some trads are Polish. The prayers don't seem harmful. It is claimed that initially the Holy Office got a poor translation of it, that Sr Faustina did not use punctuation, even after severe editing, t seems a bit odd. It should, of course, be avoided for it seems like a counterfeit Sacred Heart.
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #2 on: April 11, 2021, 01:04:26 PM »
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    • I must chime in once again --

    Many years ago, I knew 2 Trads that prayed the "Divine Mercy" prayers after Mass, as part of their Communion thanksgiving.

    A forty year old woman with 8 kids, and a young single man about 22 years old.

    They ended up committing adultery with each other. I wonder if the emphasis on God's mercy pushed them over the edge, to allow them to commit such a sin?

    If they had been meditating on the Passion, the Sacred Heart of Jesus (wounded for our sins) -- maybe it wouldn't have happened? Who knows.

    Second example: an otherwise conservative group in the local area, "The Mission of Divine Mercy". They promoted John Paul II and Medjugorje. Oh, and their 1 hour Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament began to be corrupted by "speaking in tongues". I have this from first-hand reports.

    All I know is -- there is no good fruit from this novel, UN-traditional devotion, calculated to overwrite true devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Would I go so far as to say it's demonic? Maybe.
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #3 on: April 11, 2021, 01:50:40 PM »
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    • I can't say I've ever seen a traditional Catholic promote the "Divine Mercy".  I've only seen self-professed "conservatives" and people who just like the "smells and bells" of tradition promote the chaplet.
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #4 on: April 11, 2021, 01:53:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on April 11, 2021, 01:50:40 PM
    I can't say I've ever seen a traditional Catholic promote the "Divine Mercy".  I've only seen self-professed "conservatives" and people who just like the "smells and bells" of tradition promote the chaplet.
    That's correct.

    Why do some trads promote Divine Mercy? Answer: Because they are not really trads.
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #5 on: April 11, 2021, 05:10:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Prayerful on April 11, 2021, 01:02:42 PM
    Some trads are Polish. The prayers don't seem harmful. It is claimed that initially the Holy Office got a poor translation of it, that Sr Faustina did not use punctuation, even after severe editing, t seems a bit odd. It should, of course, be avoided for it seems like a counterfeit Sacred Heart.
    I remember the prayers being similar to prayers said by St. Therese.
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #6 on: April 11, 2021, 05:25:27 PM »
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    • Sspx being taken over by novus order and their errors. 
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #7 on: April 11, 2021, 06:18:35 PM »
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #8 on: April 11, 2021, 07:08:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on April 11, 2021, 01:04:26 PM
    All I know is -- there is no good fruit from this novel, UN-traditional devotion, calculated to overwrite true devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. 
    Not only that! Matthew, but the Sunday octave of Easter has been named Divine Mercy Sunday, calculated to overwrite the Descent of the Holy Ghost on the Apostles and the Birth of the Church. 
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #9 on: April 11, 2021, 07:56:55 PM »
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    • No, not the descend of the Holy Ghost but the appearance of Jesus to His Apostles for the first time after His Resurrection, resulting in their fearlessly proclaiming the Gospel.
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #10 on: April 11, 2021, 08:52:26 PM »
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    • Is the Divine Mercy Chaplet in the new versions of the Christian Warfare book? Grifter Skojec was criticizing the opposition to Divine Mercy Sunday on twitter today, and Hillary was supporting Quasimodo Sunday.
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #11 on: April 11, 2021, 09:49:11 PM »
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    • I imagine that XavierSem is all over this one too.
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #12 on: April 11, 2021, 10:28:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matto on April 11, 2021, 08:52:26 PM
    Is the Divine Mercy Chaplet in the new versions of the Christian Warfare book? Grifter Skojec was criticizing the opposition to Divine Mercy Sunday on ƚwιƚƚeɾ today, and Hillary was supporting Quasimodo Sunday.
    Is not suppose to be referred to as Quasimodo Sunday?
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #13 on: April 11, 2021, 10:33:04 PM »
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    • Not only does the Divine Mercy feast minimize Our Lord’s Sacred Heart, but it's weirdly repetitive.  And it also minimizes Our Lady’s Immaculate Heart and Fatima, wherein She told Sr Lucy to pray the rosary and “Only I can help you”.
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    So we have Our Lord appearing in France, with His Sacred Heart, in opposition/warning of the French Revolution, which is the precursor to the communists.  
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    But France waited too long, so He then sent His Mother at LaSallete, Knock and Fatima (meanwhile, around the time of LaSallete, He again appeared in His Holy Face in France to ask for reparation).
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    The repeated theme in all of theses is prayer, penance and reparation....or else, God will chastise the world.  
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    But then the “Divine Mercy” comes along.  No mention of chastisement, or reparation.  No mention of confession, communions, masses.  It’s all Protestant.  
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    Then, worse upon worse, the Divine Mercy Sunday seems to REPLACE GOOD FRIDAY, because it’s setup/explained as this Uber-merciful day of the year.  EASTER SEASON IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CELEBRATION OF CHRIST’s TRIUMPH! Yet we’re supposed to re-do Lent and re-think about Christ’s passion AFTER Easter Sunday?  It’s weirdly anti-Catholic.  It’s backwards in so many ways.  It’s not consistent with Tradition at all. 
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    Re: Why do some trads seem to promote Divine Mercy?
    « Reply #14 on: April 11, 2021, 10:42:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 11, 2021, 10:33:04 PM
    Not only does the Divine Mercy feast minimize Our Lord’s Sacred Heart, but it's weirdly repetitive.  And it also minimizes Our Lady’s Immaculate Heart and Fatima, wherein She told Sr Lucy to pray the rosary and “Only I can help you”.
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    So we have Our Lord appearing in France, with His Sacred Heart, in opposition/warning of the French ʀɛʋօʟutιօn, which is the precursor to the communists.  
    .
    But France waited too long, so He then sent His Mother at LaSallete, Knock and Fatima (meanwhile, around the time of LaSallete, He again appeared in His Holy Face in France to ask for reparation).
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    The repeated theme in all of theses is prayer, penance and reparation....or else, God will chastise the world.  
    .
    But then the “Divine Mercy” comes along.  No mention of chastisement, or reparation.  No mention of confession, communions, masses.  It’s all Protestant.  
    .
    Then, worse upon worse, the Divine Mercy Sunday seems to REPLACE GOOD FRIDAY, because it’s setup/explained as this Uber-merciful day of the year.  EASTER SEASON IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CELEBRATION OF CHRIST’s TRIUMPH! Yet we’re supposed to re-do Lent and re-think about Christ’s passion AFTER Easter Sunday?  It’s weirdly anti-Catholic.  It’s backwards in so many ways.  It’s not consistent with Tradition at all.

    Really great observations, PV.
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