Author Topic: Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive? (Read 42838 times)

TKGS · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2015, 08:42:47 PM »

Quote from: AMDGJMJ

And these three faults are what make it so that sedes are not more united; in fact, it is the reason why traditional Catholics in general are not more united.

Actually, the faults you describe are faults that have been a problem in the human race since...Adam.

The most evident reason why traditional Catholics in general are not more united is because there is no uniting force at this time. In other words, the lack of unity seen among Catholics is, itself, a sign that there is no pope at the moment to unite Catholics.

TKGS · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2015, 08:44:10 PM »

Quote from: Matto

And rum used to post here for a while under a different name so he isn't really a new member.

Interesting. I thought Matthew took a dim view of members having multiple accounts. So what name did you used to use so that the membership can tie together these personalities? Unlike so many people, I have never been able to identify people who return under new screen names.

rum · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2015, 08:56:17 PM »

Matthew allowed me to rejoin. He said I should sign up for a new account and not use the old account. I made my introduction here: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=2683&min=730&num=5

rum · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2015, 09:05:27 PM »

Quote from: AMDGJMJ

I am probably what you all would call a Sedevacantist...

It is not that I necessary believe that there is absolutely no pope, but I certainly do not believe that Benedict or Francis are true popes...

So, being a sedevacantist, no-one will find me prejudiced to say that it is true. Sedes are usually very proud, stubborn, and selfish people.

And these three faults are what make it so that sedes are not more united; in fact, it is the reason why traditional Catholics in general are not more united.

The BEST traditional Catholics whom I have ever known were humble "sedes" and members of the "Resistance" who believed their position, but did not proudly or stubbornly force it upon others.

I'm not talking about personality issues or lack of humility, and I'm not criticizing the sede position. I find that it's just as likely to encounter someone who is Judaized (or even maybe crypto) or infected with PC ideas among sedes than among other Catholic groups.

rum · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2015, 09:08:38 PM »

Quote from: Matto

I have come to the opinion that often sedevacantists lack humility and think they have the one solution to the crisis and that everyone else is either of bad will or too stupid to come to the obvious conclusion of sedevacantism. Of course sedevacantists will not like this post of mine but that is the conclusion I have come to after spending a few years on the trad forums and looking at crisis in the Church websites by sedes and non-sedes. I do not have a lot of live experience with sedevacantists though because I only know two sedevacantists well in real life offline.

As far as why they are not more impressive, there are probably only a few dozen thousand sedevacantists in the world so it is a very small sample size.

Sure it's a small sample size, but the sample size of other types of trads is small, too..