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Offline JohnAnthonyMarie

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Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2015, 11:00:57 AM »
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  • http://traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Pope/Pius_XI/On_the_Church_and_the_German_Reich,_March_14,_1937.html

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    4. If, then, the tree of peace, which we planted on German soil with the purest intention, has not brought forth the fruit, which in the interest of your people, We had fondly hoped, no one in the world who has eyes to see and ears to hear will be able to lay the blame on the Church and on her Head. The experiences of these last years have fixed responsibilities and laid bare intrigues, which from the outset only aimed at a war of extermination. In the furrows, where We tried to sow the seed of a sincere peace, other men--the "enemy" of Holy Scripture--oversowed the cockle of distrust, unrest, hatred, defamation, of a determined hostility overt or veiled, fed from many sources and wielding many tools, against Christ and His Church. They, and they alone with their accomplices, silent or vociferous, are today responsible, should the storm of religious war, instead of the rainbow of peace, blacken the German skies.

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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #31 on: September 27, 2015, 12:28:08 PM »
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  • Sedevacantists can be enigmatic. Many of the most intelligent online contributors are sedevacantist. But then their cultural and political style is foreign to me, sometimes seeming quite lax and naive. That can be found among all the traditionalist groups and maybe it strikes me because I just don't expect it from the most hard-line on the pope question.


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    « Reply #32 on: September 27, 2015, 12:34:53 PM »
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  • Sometimes there's a 'spergish' tendency as well, among John Lane adherents.

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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #33 on: September 27, 2015, 07:29:44 PM »
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    http://traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Pope/Pius_XI/On_the_Church_and_the_German_Reich,_March_14,_1937.html

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    4. If, then, the tree of peace, which we planted on German soil with the purest intention, has not brought forth the fruit, which in the interest of your people, We had fondly hoped, no one in the world who has eyes to see and ears to hear will be able to lay the blame on the Church and on her Head. The experiences of these last years have fixed responsibilities and laid bare intrigues, which from the outset only aimed at a war of extermination. In the furrows, where We tried to sow the seed of a sincere peace, other men--the "enemy" of Holy Scripture--oversowed the cockle of distrust, unrest, hatred, defamation, of a determined hostility overt or veiled, fed from many sources and wielding many tools, against Christ and His Church. They, and they alone with their accomplices, silent or vociferous, are today responsible, should the storm of religious war, instead of the rainbow of peace, blacken the German skies.



    What did you post this for?
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #34 on: September 28, 2015, 04:02:37 AM »
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  • sry. I tried to delete it.
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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #35 on: September 28, 2015, 07:54:28 AM »
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  • I think the main reason why most of us are not impressive is because of our below average looks.  At least in regards to the males.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #36 on: September 28, 2015, 08:21:23 AM »
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    Sometimes there's a 'spergish' tendency as well, among John Lane adherents.


    What does "spergish" mean?
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #37 on: September 28, 2015, 08:25:01 AM »
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    Then who were you thinking of?  I mean, you are on a sede forum.  Are most of us there what you were thinking of ? And if not, exactly where do you come up with this conclusion?  
     


    EXCUSE me?

    This is most certainly NOT a sede forum. I am the sole moderator and owner, and I am not even sedevacantist!  So how could this be a sede forum?

    And where on this forum -- anywhere -- does it say this is a sedevacantist forum?

    It's a Traditional Catholic forum that allows as many "flavors" as will get along and co-exist in peace, at least for the minutes they are on here each day.  If anything, it's a Resistance forum. And the Resistance is not sedevacantist.

    CathInfo's "position" if it had one, would be that of Bishop Williamson.

    Long story short, let the owner/moderator speak for the forum -- you speak for yourself.


    This seemed unreasonably harsh.  Couldn't you have just said "to be clear this is not a sedevacantist forum"?  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #38 on: September 28, 2015, 08:46:04 AM »
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    Sometimes there's a 'spergish' tendency as well, among John Lane adherents.


    What does "spergish" mean?


    It means reminiscent of someone with Asperger's Syndrome.

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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #39 on: September 28, 2015, 09:23:59 AM »
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    Sometimes there's a 'spergish' tendency as well, among John Lane adherents.


    What does "spergish" mean?


    It means reminiscent of someone with Asperger's Syndrome.


    That is pretty hilarious.  I tend to disagree but it is funny nonetheless.  

    I agree that they are intelligent but they seem to be able to socialize as well IMO.  I do wish they were a bit easier to get a hold of though.  And I wish John Lane's site had not just disappeared out of the blue nor that his forum suddenly stop with no explanation.  Hey, maybe you are on to something.   :roll-laugh2:

    Joking, they have big families.  And they are capable of socializing.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #40 on: September 28, 2015, 10:06:57 AM »
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    I think the main reason why most of us are not impressive is because of our below average looks.  At least in regards to the males.


    Best answer yet to such a profound question.


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    Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive?
    « Reply #41 on: September 28, 2015, 12:39:05 PM »
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  • This thread is based on vanity.  Whether sedes are, in our eyes, really impressive or dimwitted bulbs is irrelevant to whether someone is standing fast in the Catholic faith or not.  

    As for what I have seen, most sede chapels are very impressive in their piousness and devotion.  

    The CMRI is pretty darn impressive as an small organization but it is more importantly a very devout group.  The CMRI chapel in Akron impressed me immensely when I visited.  The SSPV chapel in Cleveland impressed me also.  But along these lines, every SSPX chapel I have ever visited has impressed me also.   The devotion to Catholicism is what has impressed me.  

    The marble floor at a local novus ordo circle church is extremely impressive and that floor, if undisturbed, will remain impressive for many decades are probably even centuries.  No serious person would be impressed with the devotion of the parishioners nor the priest.

    I think the Francisco brothers, the twin priests in the CMRI to be fairly impressive, they impress me with their devotion to the Catholic Church.  

    I guarantee there are some ph.D's in novus ordo run schools whose level of erudition would be very impressive by any university standards but you get nothing but indifferentist mush from them regarding Our Lord.  





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    « Reply #42 on: September 28, 2015, 01:44:00 PM »
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  • So I lack humility for noticing that sedes have as big a problem with political correctness and Judaization than other trad groups?

    Based on your response, Capt McQuigg,  I think you may need to read my comments in the thread again, assuming you read them already.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    « Reply #43 on: September 28, 2015, 02:27:29 PM »
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  •  You can't get an honest assessment of Traditional Catholic groups on the internet. I think it's something you have to judge for yourself in person.  Anyone can join a forum and call themselves whatever they want.

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    « Reply #44 on: September 28, 2015, 03:54:53 PM »
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    So I lack humility for noticing that sedes have as big a problem with political correctness and Judaization than other trad groups?

    You're obsessed, rum!