"Well?"  So deliciously pompous!  

Interesting that you have it completely backwards.  Sedevacantism actually does provide "an explanation for the crisis that [doesn't] require more that a passing knowledge of Catholic theology."  
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It is all the of the theories which posit the Catholic Church in a group of manifest heretics with its head being so obviously a heretic that requires theological machinations that make your head spin.

Sedevacantists can be enigmatic. Many of the most intelligent online contributors are sedevacantist. But then their cultural and political style is foreign to me, sometimes seeming quite lax and naive. That can be found among all the traditionalist groups and maybe it strikes me because I just don't expect it from the most hard-line on the pope question.

I've taken sedevacantism seriously from the moment I became acquainted with it. Still, you'd think the true remnant would be more impressive. I don't know that the best ambassadors for the sedevacantist position are sedevacantists. I'm familiar with many of the people on Te Deum and they're a shifty lot. Some outright Judaizers among them. Not necessarily worse than any other faction though.

I'm reminded of Graham's observation on page 3 of this thread:

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Sedevacantists can be enigmatic. Many of the most intelligent online contributors are sedevacantist. But then their cultural and political style is foreign to me, sometimes seeming quite lax and naive. That can be found among all the traditionalist groups and maybe it strikes me because I just don't expect it from the most hard-line on the pope question.

I just discovered this thread started by ggreg over on SuscipeDomine this past September.

He's quoting me from this thread. He thinks the h0Ɩ0cαųst happened:

There's only one person on that thread who has the right response, and that is VetusOrdo, he of many faces:

I also notice that JayneK lies about me and says I keep a file on her (not that this would be wrong, but I don't):

What a lying unconverted Jєω snake she is. This is a woman who once said that anti-Jєωιѕнness has nothing to do with Catholicism, but had to backtrack. She was later an apologist for VoxClamantis' homo and tranny promotion. No, I don't keep a file on anyone on these forums, it just so happens that I've been reading these forums since 2006 or so and develop views on people from reading lots of posts. She lied about me another time and said I followed her to this forum, when I'd been here years before she came.

JayneK's response to VetusOrdo:

VetusOrdo again:

Having looked at the evidence I am convinced that the h0Ɩ0cαųst happened.

Whether it was 4 or 6 million or the exact number killed who knows?  The nαzιs destroyed all the evidence they could, how would you add up an exact number without records?

But the evidence remaining that there was a deliberate and systematic slaughter of the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ inmates, who were mostly Jєωs is undeniable.  I have personally met two British soldiers who actually liberated some of those camps when I was in my early 20s buying and selling cars in London.   I don't believe they were lying, nor do I believe the survivors are all lying either.  Do some of them exaggerate a bit?  Yes, I am sure they do.  But they are not making the whole thing up.   You have to be very biased to look at the evidence and conclude that.

People deny all sorts of things.  Moon landings, round earth, heliocentrism and they simply do it by selectively viewing the evidence or claiming that 400,000 people working for NASA kept a giant secret.  But that is nuts.  By that yardstick you cannot trust ANYTHING historical.  Take anything in history and you could take a one-sided view.

There are people who claim there is no historical evidence for Jesus.  But the truth is that what evidence there is they reject because they wish to reject it, whereas they have never doubted the existence of Genghis Khan or Marco Polo.

Show me someone who likes the Jєωs but denies that the h0Ɩ0cαųst happened.

You should see all the quotes from a GENERATION BEFORE WW2 talking about the mythical "6 million". It's a symbolic number to the Jєωs, I think it's also some kind of clarion call or dog whistle to gather to Israel or something like that.

Whatever it is, the fact that they were talking about 6 Million 30 years earlier either means they have the power of prophecy, or there's something very, very fishy.

And of course the point about not being able to debate a historical point. That is ludicrous. Debating the # who died in cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs has nothing to do with hatred, much less racially-motivated hatred. That is a ludicrous thing that almost everyone believes nowadays, without even thinking.

And I know that Disney movies portray the bad guys as stupid, and the nαzιs are the ultimate bad guys, but they wouldn't have wasted so much time and transport moving Jєωs all over just to immediately gas them. Why did they even bother tattooing them? Why were there 30+ different forms of cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ money (specie) which could be spent on countless things in the camp? I laid eyes on some of this money in one of the museums in Washington, DC. I couldn't believe they openly displayed it. Of course, no one but me understood that it undermined the whole h0Ɩ0h0αx myth.

Then there's the issue of the # of Jєωs in Europe in 1935 vs. 1945. There is not a drop of 6 million, let's put it that way.