Author Topic: Why Arent Sedevacantists more impressive? (Read 43282 times)

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #260 on:** December 08, 2015, 05:51:48 AM »

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Could you please clarify your post? Are you suggesting that I have made something up here?

With a little bit more investigating, I see that LucasL was banned and there is no such member named irirfleo. I would argue that something was changed. I probably quoted LucasL but perhaps something happened after he was banned.

I checked LucasL's history of posts and the one found on the page linked above on this thread is not to be found among his archived posts.

I had presumed that the name of a member attached to a post and the time of his post is something that the system keeps correctly in the archives. But maybe that's not true.

I know for a fact that there WAS a member named "irirfleo" a few weeks ago but all of his posts are gone and his username is deleted from the members' list.

Just out of curiosity, it is a bit weird that on the day of this post, October 28th, LucasL's history has him posting something like 40 times in 24 hours.

Therefore, I can't say that you are at fault for this conflict of data, and there must have been some corruption of the database. Sorry for the confusion, 2Vermont.

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2Vermont · « **Reply #261 on:** December 08, 2015, 03:18:54 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: 2Vermont

Could you please clarify your post? Are you suggesting that I have made something up here?

With a little bit more investigating, I see that LucasL was banned and there is no such member named irirfleo. I would argue that something was changed. I probably quoted LucasL but perhaps something happened after he was banned.

I checked LucasL's history of posts and the one found on the page linked above on this thread is not to be found among his archived posts.

I had presumed that the name of a member attached to a post and the time of his post is something that the system keeps correctly in the archives. But maybe that's not true.

I know for a fact that there WAS a member named "irirfleo" a few weeks ago but all of his posts are gone and his username is deleted from the members' list.

Just out of curiosity, it is a bit weird that on the day of this post, October 28th, LucasL's history has him posting something like 40 times in 24 hours.

Therefore, I can't say that you are at fault for this conflict of data, and there must have been some corruption of the database. Sorry for the confusion, 2Vermont.

Not only can you not say that I am at fault, but you also can not say:

This above is a factual example of a sedevacantist posting on CI something that did not happen, and then subsequent sedes posting comments based on the erroneous information without questioning the error.

Not only did "a sedevacantist" (me) NOT post something that did not happen, there also weren't "subsequent sedes posting comments based on the (supposed) erroneous information without questioning the (supposed) error".

As far as I can tell, there was only one other poster who responded to my post and that was MMagdala and she doesn't even hold the sede position.

It seems to me Neil that your post is full of falsehoods and false accusations, not mere "confusion".

TKGS · « **Reply #262 on:** December 08, 2015, 04:02:19 PM »

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Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: 2Vermont
Quote from: irirfleo
I don't really understand why there's so much hate between sedevacantist and people on the resistance. It's not humanly sane to attack each other in things that are not 100% certain. There are good theologians in both sides, there're Church teachings on both sides. It's far beyond me why this is happening.

Let's use the example of the Dimond Brothers. They call "an abomination" one that does not hold the sedevacante position. It's doing more harm than good, even though they have great material on their website. But this violent approach is doing more harm than good and it's not sane to do it.

I think there are what you call dogmatic sedevacantists (like the DB's) as well as dogmatic sedeplenists. Both believe that their opinion is the correct one to the point of calling the other non-Catholic, schismatic, heretics, etc.

But not all are like this.

This post by 2Vermont is then quoted by several other members later in the thread, and none of them observed that irirfleo had not made the post attributed to him.

Now, where did that come from? I mean, here is 2Vermont saying that irirfleo had originally posted this, but nowhere in this thread is such a post by irirfleo to be found. Rather, this quoted material is found posted by LucasL, as I have demonstrated above.

This above is a factual example of a sedevacantist posting on CI something that did not happen, and then subsequent sedes posting comments based on the erroneous information without questioning the error.

Could you please clarify your post? Are you suggesting that I have made something up here?

With a little bit more investigating, I see that LucasL was banned and there is no such member named irirfleo. I would argue that something was changed. I probably quoted LucasL but perhaps something happened after he was banned.

Indeed, LucasL made this comment on page 24 (if you're a CathInfo member). There is no member irirfleo. It seems to be a glitch in the forum. I've seen this before. In fact, if you do an internet search of irirfleo on CathInfo, you'll find it in several CathInfo posts and they all seem to be names in quotes by a variety of members including MaterDominici.

Surely, Neil Obstat, you're not accusing MaterDominici of being one of those evil, sinister, and dishonest sedevacantists, are you?

No, you have not identified a sedevacantist making something up. Instead, you've shown yourself to be someone who calumniates people who disagree with you and backing up your calumny with superficial research going out of your way to find what you want to find rather than the truth.

Alexandria · « **Reply #263 on:** December 08, 2015, 04:53:55 PM »

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I have come to the opinion that often sedevacantists lack humility...

Oh brother, like anyone on this forum doesn't?

Come to think of it, no matter where you go, that is the one thing everyone lacks - humility.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #264 on:** December 09, 2015, 02:09:07 AM »

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I have come to the opinion that often sedevacantists lack humility...

Oh brother, like anyone on this forum doesn't?

Come to think of it, no matter where you go, that is the one thing everyone lacks - humility.

:applause: :applause: :applause: Aaaaamen!

Although, perhaps in my case, it could be argued that I'm trying to be humble for real, by shedding all pretenses of fake humility. What do you think? No? Not even a little? Bah, I tried. :smile: